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daninthemix
Member
I have a really good 1KW PSU (It's Titanium rated) but I'm wondering if it will be enough for 9800X3D + 5090 
Bojji
Member
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 Ti to feature 16GB VRAM, RTX 5060 reportedly sticks to 8GB - VideoCardz.com
NVIDIA RTX 5060 series rumors Finally, something about next-gen in the budget area. Wccftech claims to have obtained new information on the GeForce RTX 5060 series. NVIDIA is now said to be working on not one but two models in the series, which would follow the path of the current-generation...videocardz.com
Again, those motherfuckers are leaving 5070 in bad position, between 16GB 5060ti and 16GB 5070ti.
5070 should be 16GB, that should be their target. 12GB for 5060/5060ti and 20GB for 5080/5070ti.
Cyberpunkd
Member
Fuck the planet (and your electricity costs), it's the pixels that count.
CompleteGlobalSaturation
Member
I've got solar panels in my house. They're extremely effective in the summer - I generate more electricity via solar than actual consumption. Unfortunately we only have 4 months of sunlight in the UK and have zero energy production for most of the year. When playing games, my electric bills are sky high.
600W alone for a GPU seems like madness. I would not want to be in the same room as a GPU pumping out that much heat either.
kittoo
Cretinously credulous
I know. I still plan to get a pretty decent mobo after going through many reviews etc., but I am not sure if paying even more for PCIE 5.0 is a good idea or not.
DirtyBast8rd
Member
If you can do it. You probably wish you had later.
Rickyiez
Member
This is how I read the performance difference https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-founders-edition/34.html
It's actually the same as how you read it , 40% more frame rate or 170% faster (i.e 100FPS for 3080 will be 60FPS for 2080)
But my counter argument towards the person I quoted remains , its that the performance increase were always magnitudes more , not just from 3090 to 4090 .
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oh, I see you meant that way!!This is how I read the performance difference https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-founders-edition/34.html
It's actually the same as how you read it , 40% more frame rate or 170% faster (i.e 100FPS for 3080 will be 60FPS for 2080)
But my counter argument towards the person I quoted remains , its that the performance increase were always magnitudes more , not just from 3090 to 4090 .
fair enough
BlownUpRich
Member
Very interesting details!
SolidQ
Member
Buggy Loop
Member
AI rendering could be a huge game changer depending on what the 1st iteration will be like.
Imagine a game with basic assets, like you define how the game will play, the building blocks, the physics/animation, etc. The basic geometry of the level and objects. But AI puts the coat of paint on it, whatever style you want. It knows what lighting is supposed to look like, a fraction the cost of path tracing.
Bojji
Member
Seems another exclusivity DLSS for 5xxx
Xbox was "tv, tv, tv, tv, tv..."
This is "Ai, Ai, Ai, Ai, Ai..."
How much of this is just PR bullshit?
Celcius
°Temp. member
Now that evga isn’t around anymore, just whatever you can get your hands on.
Xdrive05
Member
I wonder if it's going to be a gen-locked feature a'la frame gen for the 40 series. Better than 50% chance probably. They gotta have some shiny reason to sell yet another 60 series card with 8GB VRAM on a 128bit bus for probably higher MSRP than the previous one.
Over and under on "Neural Rendering" being marketed with another DLSS prefix (DLSS4?) or some new designation entirely?
I'm thinking "DLNR" if it really has nothing to do with upscaling or frame gen.
Over and under on "Neural Rendering" being marketed with another DLSS prefix (DLSS4?) or some new designation entirely?
I'm thinking "DLNR" if it really has nothing to do with upscaling or frame gen.
Bojji
Member
Suprisingly Nvidia weren't locking features that much before. GameWorks stuff worked on everything, there was some Maxwell exclusive DX12_2 stuff but almost nothing used it, MFAA for maxwell as well? TXAA for Kepler?
For DLSS they only have frame gen for Ada, ray reconstruction is the latest thing ("DLSS 3.5") and it works on everything with RTX name.
We will see.
llien
Member
There is no pressure if it doesn't either, as proven by 3050 or 4060.
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SolidQ
Member
That future and still far, but problem like 95% users won't use AI, except DLSS.
Bojji
Member
Some "leaks". It's your opinion trust/not trust
Isn't this quite old?
cinnamonandgravy
Member
thats the one thing that may make me not get a 5090--power consumption, and therefore temps/fan noise.
if its loud and heats up my room... may have to pass. itll probably be fine though.
need the gpu compute for 4k.
well that or if its $2500. thats just wrong.
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llien
Member
Is impossible to "create" a better glorified upscaler without bribing PF.
AtomicStarving
Member
Gonna wait for the 6090
amigastar
Member
It will come out just in time for GTA VI on PCGonna wait for the 6090
llien
Member
Let's go point by point:
- "There will be a new DLSS feature that PF will hype that won't run on series below 5000" - no doubt
- RT cores that deliver "more realistic" lighting. BS. One can twist it like "but it's faster, so kinda allows for more realistic"
- "AI accelerated graphics" - modern "Y2K compatible speakers"
- "Improved AI performance" - no sh*t, watson, faster cards do scheisse faster
- "Better integration of AI in games" - I'm afraid another try to pull proprietary API trick
- "Neural Rendering Capabilities" - perhaps a runtime filter. I'm skeptical.
- "AI enhanced power efficiency" - guaranteed lie
- "Improved AI upscaling" and DLSS used outside games to upscale thingies. Yeah, why not.
- "Generative AI acceleration" - most GPUs can do that, of course new, faster gen will be even faster.
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Bojji
Member
I wonder how much of it is just about RTX cards in general.
Dorfdad
Gold Member
Most people won’t find it worth the price. Monitors and TVs can’t even reach the maximum of 4090 right now.
I’m sure some tech enthusiasts will love the latest and greatest, but it’s not going to be a popular choice for the general public. In fact, I think this new card might actually help the 40 series sell better.
This is the first gen I’m sitting on the sideline at launch.
I’m sure some tech enthusiasts will love the latest and greatest, but it’s not going to be a popular choice for the general public. In fact, I think this new card might actually help the 40 series sell better.
This is the first gen I’m sitting on the sideline at launch.
SolidQ
Member
from fresh video
DirtyBast8rd
Member
Me too, gonna sell my 5090 to get it.Gonna wait for the 6090
Bojji
Member
I think I saw the same slide from his video like ~2 months ago? Maybe some things changed.
Anyway, people won't be happy if this is true.
SolidQ
Member
That was about 5090 only
People will happy with any "RTX" label, even if Huang will sell shampoo for 1k with "RTX" name
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BlownUpRich
Member
I mean there was an interview with Jensen Huang 5 months ago where he was teasing what the future of DLSS will be, he said “generating much better models & textures” than what the game has using AI of some sorts, I think this is its manifestation? Or rather I should say, it’s 1st attempt at doing just that with the 50-series graphics cards? No wonder why the 5090 has 32GB as this stuff is pretty expensive on video memory… Maybe it’s just a hunk of bologna, we’ll see…
AI rendering could be a huge game changer depending on what the 1st iteration will be like.
Imagine a game with basic assets, like you define how the game will play, the building blocks, the physics/animation, etc. The basic geometry of the level and objects. But AI puts the coat of paint on it, whatever style you want. It knows what lighting is supposed to look like, a fraction the cost of path tracing.
Buggy Loop
Member
Yea, I might be too optimistic on 1st gen AI rendering..
AI texture could already be something quite nice. Microsoft, among others, had apparently an Xbox studio that was experimenting with it
Or AI skins on characters, effects, , etc
Maybe they'll implement in their RT cores an accelerator specifically for neural radiance cache path tracing.
But deep down I want to see the inevitable, maybe too soon but it would be a massive bomb in rendering world if they have something like this Or an improvement on this concept, with less hallucinations (graphics shifting, these are amateur videos with not top of the line ML)
Hawk The Slayer
Member
That would be nice but it'll still be useless if it's only at 8gb vram even for 1080P. So hope it'll be at 12gb at least.
RavenSan
Off-Site Inflammatory Member
If the RX8800XT comes with 16GB VRAM and a (estimated) $500 price point -- that may be enough for me to ditch Nvidia. Can't fathom a 5080 at twice (or more) the price is going to give me twice the performance.
But I'll ultimately wait for reviews. For me, I'd personally take 25% less performance from a card at half the price as a no brainer.
But I'll ultimately wait for reviews. For me, I'd personally take 25% less performance from a card at half the price as a no brainer.
Desprado123
Member
If PC is all about price point than Nvidia would have not got 90% share in PC market. PC is the only market, where price point has a very least effect.
digital_ghost
Member
I have a hamster sweatshop. They run around wheels 24/7 and generate free electricity for my house.
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RavenSan
Off-Site Inflammatory Member
I'm not sure what you point is? I know that a lot of folks are happy to spend that money on a Nvidia card -- I've got a 3070 now.
I'm just saying if the cards are even remotely comparable (I'd say within 20% of each other) -- there's no way I would personally spend twice as much on a Nvidia card. I don't think I speak for every PC gamer -- this is merely just my opinion.
Paying up thousands of dollars ain't making them blowjobs free, man.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
100% the 90s are for the junkies
Zug
Member
4090s price still range from 2300 to 2500€in France atm. I probably even under evaluated it, make it 3k5€ for the premium versions.