Not sure it’d have sold that well if it was just a carbon copy of the previous game.
I’m not sure a visual change qualifies as a ‘complete change’. It’s not like the lore or genre is changed completely.
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Not sure it’d have sold that well if it was just a carbon copy of the previous game.
I’m not sure a visual change qualifies as a ‘complete change’. It’s not like the lore or genre is changed completely.
Zathalus
Member
Ah yes "retail sources". Just looking at the respective YouTube channels and you can see they are the typical outrage farming grifter. I highly doubt they have any real numbers and are just looking to stir up shit.
I'm not saying that pre orders are great, or the game will be amazing, or even that it will sell well. Everything so far indicates a middling game that will probably crash and burn. I'm just stating that information from agenda driven sources like this is usually suspect.
I'm not saying that pre orders are great, or the game will be amazing, or even that it will sell well. Everything so far indicates a middling game that will probably crash and burn. I'm just stating that information from agenda driven sources like this is usually suspect.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
25,000.
This.
This doesn't mean that game is bad, but people finally slowly learning that pre-orders are, and always where, dumb. True, just wait on reviews or patches.
BehemothBlade
Neo Member
Xe who play Dragon Age dont pre order. Am I right?
captainnapalm
Member
I've noticed that I've completely stopped buying Western-made AAA games at full price. I just won't allow myself to pay a lot of money to be preached to and propagandized by a bunch of shitty people. Most games made in North America simply aren't worth paying full price for anymore. The people making them are too batshit crazy.
Retrofluxed
Member
I'm not buying it, at least a launch. I was a huge Bioware fanboy to the point I once considered them my favorite studio and bought everything at release. After Andromeda and Anthem and how much the studio has changed over the last 10 years, I am no longer said "Bioware fanboy". I don't even rank Bioware in my favorite studios list anymore. They're effectively dead to me.
Evil Calvin
Afraid of Boobs
Why does one need to pre-order? Just get it digitally a couple days before or get at a store day of release.
Luipadre
Gold Member
Exactly
Windom Earle
Member
whoah calm down there lil' warrior
dorkimoe
Member
It’s funny because every thread is “don’t pre order!”
Then when a game doesn’t have good pre orders everyone laughs. SMH
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
And his source is supposedly someone who owns 3 retail stores in the UK.
Yeah… I mean I don’t have high expectations for Veilguard but this “report” is a very tiny scrap of information of questionable origin.
Kings Field
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SEGAvangelist
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ClosBSAS
Member
Ii
Inquisition was utter trash. This looks more of the same. Trash. DA died with DA2. As did bioware
DarkBatman
SBI’s Employee of the Year
When I saw the thread title, I immediately thought of this GIF. And I'm very happy that you already posted it.
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
I owned DA:O plus expansion, DA:II, and Inquisition. I have no desire to play this new one. IMO BioWare games have sorta sucked for the last couple years. I didn’t like Andromeda or Anthem. This looks like the artist from Fortnite took control. The story doesn’t matter to me. The BioWare I knew isn’t the same BioWare that exists today. I’d rather give another developer the time and money. I wanted that Kotor remake, but 
Reizo Ryuu
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GymWolf
Gold Member
Yep, people doesn't understand that preorders sometimes come with a big discount, it's the only reason why pc people preorder, there is no fomo involved, we know digital copies are infinite.
But yeah i checked and there are no cheap keys for the game, just the standard price, in this case there is no reason to preorder at all.
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Dynasty8
Member
LOVED the first 3 DA games. Inquisition was my GotY. I just can't see myself playing this game.
Based on the look of the game, the overall design and certain choices they made, the game is certainly not made for me. I am not the target audience. It appears I'm not alone
And I just have to be honest, I am seeing the trend here with developers who care more about imposing their personal morales in these games and less about making games appeal to the general public.
blog.bioware.com
Based on the look of the game, the overall design and certain choices they made, the game is certainly not made for me. I am not the target audience. It appears I'm not alone
And I just have to be honest, I am seeing the trend here with developers who care more about imposing their personal morales in these games and less about making games appeal to the general public.
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Tal Shiar Agent
Member
I'm not a fan of the art style, but gameplay is king and story is queen.
So long as a game's art is not outright disgusting (like for me, chibi or whatever you call Genshin Impact's) it won't impact my desire to play it.
lughnasadh123
Member
Everyone wants to fuck anything and everything in BG3, right? Hell even the animals aren't safe yet the game still sold incredibly well. Having that element isn't a detriment to it's success but other stuff around it. Right now it seems there's a wave of negativity around the departure in art style from old games and the usual crew jumping at the shadows anything they deem to be DEI inspired.
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
That's true, BG3 is extremely diverse and also extremely beloved. You just can't get caught up in thinking that anti-DEI culture warriors are going to have critical thinking skills or behave in any way that isn't massively hypocritical.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Veilguard is also now a hack and slash action game. I don’t think too many old school DA fans want that.
And you can’t control your full party anymore too.
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lughnasadh123
Member
And those would be fair criticisms that touch on something more substantial than the "go woke, go broke" arguments.
GymWolf
Gold Member
The game has so many red flags that being woke is just one in the already huge pile.
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GymWolf
Gold Member
It can definitely support the good ones.
If anything the market can't support all the gaas\multy projects and that's why many of them fail and only a couple are still around.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
They’re already getting ready for their “ok yeah it flopped, but that had absolutely nothing to do with wokeness” defenses.
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
By the wacky-ass brain wormed definition of "woke", every DA game (and ME too) has been very "woke".
GymWolf
Gold Member
When they publicize non-binary characters in a fucking fantasy game not located in modern california and the head boss of the studio has "queerosexual gendermancer" in her bio, plus all the other things that i don't remember, you can bet your sweet ass that people are gonna think that the game is woke as fuck, first impression are hard to forget.
But like i said, being clearly woke is the last of this game problem, i bought and enjoyed a lot of supposedly woke games, but this looks very unappealing, the mobile looking ui is beyond terrible and i can't get over how lame the enemy design is, and i'm playing the fucking space marine 2 where enemies are the most generic ass, charisma vacuum, simple minded xenomorph wannabe aliens you can imagine, and they still look more interesting than the uber generic demon i saw in veilguard.
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Evil Smurf King
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Sooner
Member
One word:
Pass
Dragon Age went from a cool, dark medieval fantasy RPG to an advertisement for the writer's LGBTQ lifestyle.
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