Kokoloko85
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Indian jones gives a chance for something new. It doesnt seem like a typical FPS so its actually quite refreshing. We have Tomb Raider and Unchatyed in 3rd person, but nothing like Indiana Jones in First Person
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So…. Why is Machine Games Indy and not the next Quake?
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Deerock71
Member
Escape From Butcher Bay should've made an INDELIBLE impression on you as a gamer. That one was an all-timer.
justiceiro
Marlboro: Other M
Isn't quake mostly a multiplayer franchise these days? Not machine games strongest points.
Sadly, you don't get to make a AAA single player fps these without a huge IP attached to it .
Sadly, you don't get to make a AAA single player fps these without a huge IP attached to it .
VolticArchangel
Member
I don't mind machinegames doing Wolfenstein, but leave the rest of the iD franchises to iD please, ffs.
digital_ghost
Member
Because quake 4 probably sold like shit.
I still believe it will come back sometime soon.
I still believe it will come back sometime soon.
wipeout364
Member
Quake has a serious problem in 2024. I don’t think you can make a Quake game and sell it to the modern audience.
No one is going to play a FPS without ADS. No one wants an arena shooter.
I love Quake and played a fair bit of Quake Champions until it became a wasteland and the writing was on the wall that it was being abandoned.
Not sure why the OP thinks a Quake game would outsell an Indy game.
No one is going to play a FPS without ADS. No one wants an arena shooter.
I love Quake and played a fair bit of Quake Champions until it became a wasteland and the writing was on the wall that it was being abandoned.
Not sure why the OP thinks a Quake game would outsell an Indy game.
FeastYoEyes
Member
I am more wondering why they aren't finishing the Wolfenstein trilogy. It's time we go together to toe with Mecha Hitler.
WhiteWaterM00se
Member
I assume it is because Indy IP was offered and it will sell better than Wolfenstein IP or Quake IP.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Who gives a shit what the last Indy movie did, when this a completely unrelated project? Personally I grew up with the franchise, and would rather roll the dice on a new Indy game over a new Quake.
Also first person whip action can be great.
Also first person whip action can be great.
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Balducci30
Member
No ID proper should make quake. And maybe Hexen now
The average age of consoles demographic doesn't change, this hobby isn't for kids, I'm talking numbers.
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Robb
Gold Member
If they want to do Indy I feel like that’s the right choice. What matters is that their passion is there and that there are people who love the IP at the studio.
I’d personally rather have seen a continuation of Wolfenstein, but from the little I’ve seen Indy looks surprisingly decent imo.
I’d personally rather have seen a continuation of Wolfenstein, but from the little I’ve seen Indy looks surprisingly decent imo.
YeulEmeralda
Linux User
I agree but they rebooted Wolfenstein pretty well (twice actually) so they could do it for Quake, no?
Peanut brains can't see beyond game awards and trophies, there's actually a whole world of games that didn't get the attention they deserve but still doing well, it's like watching the hobbit series, people watch it for the experience, not for Oscar awards.
Toots
Gold Member
On one hand i have a ground breaking phd thesis showing direct correlation between the dumbing down of competitive fps and the dumbing down of society as a whole, on the other hand i don't want to end up suicided by todd howard (who is the Hillary clinton of videogaming, just think about it).
Kiya's Guard
Member
Because machinegames is property of bethesda, and Todd said "hey i wanna make a game for us old boomers"
Genesis Knight
Member
Production on an Indiana Jones game would have been far too along on the process to stop when dial of destiny turned out to be a dud.
As for quake, even if we assume everybody at ID would love to make another quake game, the funding has to come from somewhere. And for the people who make those decisions, I don't think it's more complicated than looking at quake champions and saying "That's a bust, quake doesn't sell"
In this financial environment, I would bet ID had to go to the mat with the executives at Microsoft and Bethesda just to get funding for the nightdive remasters.
As for quake, even if we assume everybody at ID would love to make another quake game, the funding has to come from somewhere. And for the people who make those decisions, I don't think it's more complicated than looking at quake champions and saying "That's a bust, quake doesn't sell"
In this financial environment, I would bet ID had to go to the mat with the executives at Microsoft and Bethesda just to get funding for the nightdive remasters.
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Team Andromeda
Member
That's almost true
Exhumed/PowerSlave is the best of all time, but yeah... Riddick and Starbreeze were awesome.
MarkMe2525
Gold Member
I respect Quake, but I don't see why I should believe that a Quake game will be, by default, better than an Indy game.
P:axMagellanic
Member
Their last couple of games were a disaster, I don't want them anywhere near quake.
Hudo
Member
Because Indiana Jones and Wolfenstein are set in the same universe
Hudo
Member
Bond007
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AeonGaidenRaiden
Member
Actually Im more surprised we got a new DooM instead of Quake especially since there were rumours about a reboot and it felt like after the success of DooM, Quake would make the next logical IP sense to make money off of.
DAHGAMING
Member
Il give this Indy game ago but its not realy for me, not a big fan of the films but maybe I will enjoy it for its gameplay as I enjoy there other games. I would rather a Quake or another Wolfenstein from them but hopefully that will be there next game. With this Indy game not far from being finished and the next Doom coming next year, maybe Machinegames can finish there Wolfenstein series and ID can reboot Quake, each studio assisting each other.
Hudo
Member
Games of Today
Member
Dude this game is going to be fucking awesome. They are finally taking that promise of the Euphoria physics engine from the cancelled Staff of Kings PS3 game and making it a reality.
MarkMe2525
Gold Member
This makes about as much sense as stating bananas are better than Pringles. You are comparing two completely different things.
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The Last movie didn't matter, it won't change who they are, just search about consoles demographic, the biggest piece of pie is the same since the beginning, from Atari to be fair, this isn't good news actually, it'll eventually threaten the future of consoles.
Believe it or not, but i’m playing through the Halo games on my steam deck right now and having a great time. Not as great of a time as the quake remasters but still decent. Looks fantastic on the deck.
I’d still be angry if say bungie’s next game would be say based on something idiotic like the national treasure IP. Although I guess Marathon is close.
All of the people comparing this to riddick then sure why not make another riddick game.. I personally have no interest in the Indy IP and seems most people agree based on the last movies numbers.
HerjansEagleFeeder
Member
No nostalgia needed, Quake 3 is objectively the best game ever made.
Bruh people said the exact same thing about Doom and Wolfenstein prior to those games coming out. Quake is no different.
Hudo
Member
Look, man. I was not the one initiating this comparison. I am only going with the flow.
Also: Bananas are indeed better than Pringles.
yurqqa
Member
Modern Quake won't be that different from modern Doom except aestethics. And we already have new Doom game that feels aestetically as a mix between Doom and Quake.
And first person Indiana Jones sounds interesting. Although we have tons of great FPSes, they never topped Jedi Knight and Mirror's Edge in some feeling of being there (I don't know how to explain that). Maybe Indy will.
And first person Indiana Jones sounds interesting. Although we have tons of great FPSes, they never topped Jedi Knight and Mirror's Edge in some feeling of being there (I don't know how to explain that). Maybe Indy will.
ShaiKhulud1989
Gold Member
As much as I love MG (clocked like 80+ hours in both Wolfenstein games) so far I'm just not feeling it. Showed FPS snippets looked whacky and without proper respone. Whip especially.
I do hope I'll change my mind after deep dive, but so fat the descision to go with FPS perspective feels like a mistake to soften the genre change for the developer.
I do hope I'll change my mind after deep dive, but so fat the descision to go with FPS perspective feels like a mistake to soften the genre change for the developer.
hououinkyouma00
Gold Member
Studios sometimes want to branch out. They are a great FPS studio and they’ve proven that.
It’s likely that Microsoft/Bethesda asked them because they had faith they could make a good game and the studio didn’t want to just churn out more “standard” FPS games.
It’s also just as likely that Machine Games themselves wanted to for the same reasons.
Making the same games over and over again would likely make the team burnt out and having the chance to do something different and/or “not in their wheelhouse” might reinvigorate them.
Same thing with Playground. Nobody expected Playground to make Fable since they are a racing studio but it gives them a chance to branch out. I know it’s separate teams but it’s not like they appeared out of thin air to make Indy/Fable.
That being said. I don’t really think the game looks great. It looks like a clunky Uncharted clone which is funny considering Uncharted is basically Indiana Jones.
It’s likely that Microsoft/Bethesda asked them because they had faith they could make a good game and the studio didn’t want to just churn out more “standard” FPS games.
It’s also just as likely that Machine Games themselves wanted to for the same reasons.
Making the same games over and over again would likely make the team burnt out and having the chance to do something different and/or “not in their wheelhouse” might reinvigorate them.
Same thing with Playground. Nobody expected Playground to make Fable since they are a racing studio but it gives them a chance to branch out. I know it’s separate teams but it’s not like they appeared out of thin air to make Indy/Fable.
That being said. I don’t really think the game looks great. It looks like a clunky Uncharted clone which is funny considering Uncharted is basically Indiana Jones.
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Bradamante3D
Member
Because your mother has heard of Indiana Jones, but not of Quake.
It’s a shame we haven’t seen a new Jedi Knight game..
SkylineRKR
Member
Quake was a more advanced Doom with less personality that eventually branched out to being an arena shooter. No one buys those games these days.
If they want to make Quake appealing, they need to make it like Doom. In which case they're better off making a new Doom which has established lore.
I don't know what they could do with the Quake IP, besides making something that would be Quake in name only.
If they want to make Quake appealing, they need to make it like Doom. In which case they're better off making a new Doom which has established lore.
I don't know what they could do with the Quake IP, besides making something that would be Quake in name only.
YeulEmeralda
Linux User
I liked the Riddick games- both of them- but
"It's been 80 years" how many of those people still work at Machine Games?
And
Riddick was bad ass character the story made those games what they were. You can't just copy that.
Dr_Salt
Banned
Doom's gameplay is nothing similar to Quake. You can't even strafe jump or bunny hop.
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OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
The Darkness was amazing too. One of my favorites. I wish we would have got a PC version.That's almost true
Gambit2483
Member
Disney probably pitched this when they thought the Indy franchise was going to make a great comeback with "Dial of Destiny".
They also probably expected this game have launched already by 2023.
They also probably expected this game have launched already by 2023.