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[AstroLad]

well it is the dual shock. :lol

But I thought the "shock" was going to be a third motor.

 

[Bebpo]

Have you ever played Wii before?

The Wii rumble is very weak though.

 

[Goldrusher]

So uh, what is going to happen when you play a motion game and the controller starts shaking? Will your guy on screen start bouncing up and down with the vibration?

Someone needs to try MotorStorm with the motion controlled steering.

 

[Mammothtank]

So uh, what is going to happen when you play a motion game and the controller starts shaking? Will your guy on screen start bouncing up and down with the vibration?

Provided you don't have the muscle structure of a newborn, nothing.

 

[Evlar]

The Wii rumble is very weak though.

It's not just the "strength" of the rumble (the amplitude) the prevents it from affecting the motion controls. It's also the frequency. Force Feedback generally operates at a much higher frequency range than even the most frantic hand-waggling, so any well designed application can filter out the force feedback as noise.

 

[Ragnarok10]

This is ignorant. Sony, release the damn controllers in the US.

 

[Phantast2k]

Dual motors :|

Better than nothing, I guess...

Same old shit since psx. cheap ass sony

 

[Zombie James]

Same old shit since psx. cheap ass sony and microsoft

Fixed

Spoiler

, right?

 

[rollingstart]

The Wii rumble is very weak though.

Wii rumble is pretty crappy.

on two of my wiimotes, the rumble basically feels like its revving up instead of just viberating, they werent initially like that, but they changed after a few uses.

 

[dfyb]

dissapointing that they didn't go with touchsense. but i guess this is what we get when lower end technology is leading the industry right now.

 

[Phantast2k]

Fixed

Spoiler

, right?

I guess so.

 

[rollingstart]

Dual motors :|

Better than nothing, I guess...

it is expected.

could touch sense even do similar vibration to the DS2 for playing BC games and such?

 

[Flek]

now that yesasia is screwing up there customers ..again... i will start ordering my dvds from places with good service like dvdfromkorea....and stop supporting stupid yesasia

 

[Mammothtank]

Where's the Touchsense cream filling? =(

 

[Zombie James]

could touch sense even do similar vibration to the DS2 for playing BC games and such?

Yes.

 

[Loudninja]

it is expected.

could touch sense even do similar vibration to the DS2 for playing BC games and such?

yes

 

[Mmmkay]

Where's the Touchsense cream filling? =(

Snuggled up with the TGS 2004 PSP LCD screen.

 

[rollingstart]

Yes.

well, damn then.

 

[Loudninja]

well, damn then.

http://www.n4g.com/ps3/NewsPending-82767.aspx

ING siad the same thing as well

 

[Slavik81]

It's not just the "strength" of the rumble (the amplitude) the prevents it from affecting the motion controls. It's also the frequency. Force Feedback generally operates at a much higher frequency range than even the most frantic hand-waggling, so any well designed application can filter out the force feedback as noise.

That assumes the sampling rate, in turn, is at a significantly higher frequency than the force feedback. Which is probably is.
If somebody can shake their Wiimote/DualShock ~4x per second, you'd probably need to rumble at ~60x per second, and sample at ~600x per second. Just as a guess. Right?

 

[davepoobond]

dual shock rumble is fine, its actually the best out of last gen.

i really dont like rumble anymore though

 

[Slavik81]

What's this I hear about X and O being reversed on the Japanese dualshocks? I'm somewhat confused. They're labelled the same. Are they wired differently on the inside or something? I don't get it.

 

[inpHilltr8r]

Do any of you even know what 'TouchSense' actually is for game pads?

 

[Wollan]

YesAsia sais they're shipping between 7-14 days but my order is labeled as Searching from suppliers. Hopefully soon.

http://global.yesasia.com/en/PrdDept.aspx/code-j/section-games/pid-1005069416/

 

[B-Ri]

What's this I hear about X and O being reversed on the Japanese dualshocks? I'm somewhat confused. They're labelled the same. Are they wired differently on the inside or something? I don't get it.

japanese games are programmed as X for cancel, O for confirm. US games flip it for bizzaro reasons. the controllers are fine.

 

[Dante]

YesAsia sais they're shipping between 7-14 days but my order is labeled as Searching from suppliers. Hopefully soon.

http://global.yesasia.com/en/PrdDept.aspx/code-j/section-games/pid-1005069416/

God, I hope i get mine before Uncharted.

 

[marwan]

This is ignorant. Sony, release the damn controllers in the US.

yah i don't see the whole concept of waiting till spring '08 since there already games out that support it.

 

[Mr. Spinnington]

But I thought the "shock" was going to be a third motor.

You think you're disappointed; I was looking forward to finally having some some God damn electrical current in my controllers.

Talk about rumble being enough feedback >: /

 

[KurowaSan]

YesAsia sais they're shipping between 7-14 days but my order is labeled as Searching from suppliers. Hopefully soon.

http://global.yesasia.com/en/PrdDept.aspx/code-j/section-games/pid-1005069416/

not anymore

Availability: Usually ships within 30 days

i preordered it since day one too, and i'm starting to doubt if i'll get it this year

 

[jjasper]

My YesAsia order says "Ready to be shipped"

FYI I made the order on 10/11

 

[Goldrusher]

What's this I hear about X and O being reversed on the Japanese dualshocks? I'm somewhat confused. They're labelled the same. Are they wired differently on the inside or something? I don't get it.

Only the games (and console firmware / XMB) are programmed like that...

Japan: O = ok, X = not ok
Europe: X = ok, /\ = not ok
USA: X = ok, O = not ok

 

[vercity82]

PS3 DualShock 3 Wireless Controller (Black) (Japan Version) 1 3 $69.99 $69.99 Ready and In-stock
PS3 DualShock 3 Wireless Controller (Ceramic White) (Japan Version) 1 3 $69.99 $69.99 Searching from Suppliers

Order Date (HKT): 10/11/2007 8:13:13 AM

Seems my black pad is in stock but still looking for the white to complete my order

 

[TerryLee81]

Only the games (and console firmware / XMB) are programmed like that...

Japan: O = ok, X = not ok
Europe: X = ok, /\ = not ok
USA: X = ok, O = not ok

I think Europe is the same as the US. At least where I live. Never used /\ for back / not ok.

 

[jjasper]

It still throws me off when I play MGS. I will always push X at least once during the menus.

 

[KurowaSan]

PS3 DualShock 3 Wireless Controller (Black) (Japan Version) 1 3 $69.99 $69.99 Ready and In-stock
PS3 DualShock 3 Wireless Controller (Ceramic White) (Japan Version) 1 3 $69.99 $69.99 Searching from Suppliers

Order Date (HKT): 10/11/2007 8:13:13 AM

Seems my black pad is in stock but still looking for the white to complete my order

same here

 

[BelligerentOC]

and mines been shipped... now if only i can remember which shipping i paid for... fuckin i ordered this days ago...

 

[Goldrusher]

I think Europe is the same as the US. At least where I live. Never used /\ for back / not ok.

What country ?
Belgium = X / /\

 

[tracky_dacks]

Here in Australia (PAL) it's typically been "X" to confirm/ok and "O" to cancel/go back.

 

[AstroLad]

same here

PS3 DualShock 3 Wireless Controller (Ceramic White) (Japan Version) 1 3 $69.99 $69.99 Ready to be shipped

My white one is ready to be shipped, so it's probably only a matter of time.

 

[Soygen]

Any word on the US release date? I really don't want to spend 70 bucks for one.

 

[Escalation]

They are back in stock at Play-Asia.

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-14-71-zl-49-en.html

 

[Nightz]

They are back in stock at Play-Asia.

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-14-71-zl-49-en.html

Wow, it's back but the price was kicked up a bit. I paid $59.90 for mine. Now it's $69.90.

 

[Kabuki Quantum Lover]

Wow, it's back but the price was kicked up a bit. I paid $59.90 for mine. Now it's $69.90.

From their newsletter:

Orders for the Dual Shock 3 have been reopened, now shipping at a slighly revised price due to lack of supply in the market and price hikes caused by middle men.

 

[AstroLad]

Orders for the Dual Shock 3 have been reopened, now shipping at a slighly revised price due to Yes-Asia demonstrating that we can really rip people off.

Fix'd.

 

[Lord Error]

For me it still says "Searching from Suppliers".

In any case, thanks to DJMizuhara, I now have one en route, hopefully in time for Uncharted

 

[plagiarize]

since burnout isn't out until february now, i can wait.

 

[careksims]

Wow, it's back but the price was kicked up a bit. I paid $59.90 for mine. Now it's $69.90.

Dammit to hell. I'll just wait. That's just too much for a controller.

 

[lherre]

I've boght 30 to me and my friends (15 white and 15 black).

 

[Lightning]

Fix'd.

What do you expect? They have to supply the world, they are not going to do it for free. :lol

I will just wait for the Europe release before getting mine.

 

[AstroLad]

What do you expect? They have to supply the world, they are not going to do it for free. :lol

I will just wait for the Europe release before getting mine.

I didn't suggest that they should do it for free. :lol I was suggesting that their price bump was a reaction to the prices at Yes-Asia and other competitors. Whether you think this is a rip-off or not is subjective and frankly immaterial to that point. I'm going to assume that there weren't "doing it for free" or even losing money at their earlier price point, fwiw though.

:lol