mansoor1980
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leave LULU alone sony fans
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Ever notice how sony and nintendo fans never say this?"Exclusives don't matter" crowd in the mud.
Happy to see they've been rewarded for putting as much effort possible into ensuring there was a stellar release schedule last year.
Keep those games coming.
It's affordable now to have both consoles.
leave LULU alone sony fans
its a long storyWhy has she been brought up here?I think I miss some context here.
its a long story
Well... damn. A quick google search shows her white boi husbando is giving her plenty of baby batter to work with.
I'm positive.
Your last makes no sense for gamers.Affordable yes, but time-wise, what working person/professional has time to game on two similar home consoles (especially when we assume said demographic also has PC and maybe a Switch)?
Only if you're a kid or young student and have time to kill it's feasible.
No Official quarterly hardware shipments were given by Sony during the PS2 era to my knowledge, the only hardware data we got were yearly shipments and production per quarter. where are you getting this 6.1m figure from?Keyword being 'all-time high for PS4 onwards'.
PS2 Q4 record is 6.1M - and it's historically relevant in this context.
While it was post-sales peak (2005), it followed introduction of 7xxx series (PS2 Slim) which suffered shortages in holiday quarter (also resulting in a rare win for Xbox in NPD that year).
Basically, coming off of a shortage period - inflated Q4s have been known to happen.
Official pages are no longer up - but https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_2_sales has the numbers that were in Sony's quarterly reports.No Official quarterly hardware shipments were given by Sony during the PS2 era to my knowledge, the only hardware data we got were yearly shipments and production per quarter. where are you getting this 6.1m figure from?
Like I said good luck proving your struggling like Sony is claiming it will be. Remember COD is a ground breaking game that Sony can't live without and the company won't be the same if MS buys ABK. BS Get those docs ready Jim.So the only reason to oppose a gargantuan trasaction helping a player outmuscle the competition, and possibly paving the way for an eventual monopoly in the future, is for its rivals to be struggling financially, with their products underperforming?
If you only play exclusives there's plenty of time. And as a working professional owning all consoles allows me to pick the cream of the crop and ensures I'm using my time wisely.Affordable yes, but time-wise, what working person/professional has time to game on two similar home consoles (especially when we assume said demographic also has PC and maybe a Switch)?
Only if you're a kid or young student and have time to kill it's feasible.
6/10
It's a chromosome thingAnd - 2 for her twitter antics.
She's not even hot but yet she's still crazy.
You have to give Playstation management, credit for how they are able to correctly read the current marget. After the PS3 gen, they have not made many financial blunders at all. Yes, not all they have done im on board with, but the numbers are irrefutable.
I give Jim Ryan and others at Playstation credit for NOT making a PS5 "S" version. Smart move on their part.
Nah. It was a decade ago. Xbox has since launched 2 consoles under Phil's management. And Don Mattrick's Xbox One launch was pacing 60% ahead of Xbox 360. He is not to be blamed.
Doesn't work like that. Sony also failed during the PS3 generation. They recovered the very next-gen. Why can't Xbox even after 10 years? Still blaming poor old Don.
Sony proving out why they don't do day one PS+ releases.
Crushing it.
Done a bit of digging and while that 6.08 million figure for FYQ4 2005 is correct it does appear to be production shipments and not shipped to retailers (sold in). From Sony's investors relations page it states that from FY 2008 hardware sales will be reported as sold-in and not production, therefore FY 2007 has been revised with this method. So all official sales data for PS2 from 2000 to 2006 was production shipments and not shipped to retailers.Posted earlier in the thread - but it's been done before (at least by a Playstation).
Pent-up demand + finally getting enough stock is likely going to result in inflated quarter, but we'll see by how much.
All divisions are doing great. Pictures decline was because Spider Man.It's amazing how much PlayStation IS Sony right now, like how as much as they diversified income streams, iPhone is very much Apple
Why has she been brought up here?I think I miss some context here.
Kind of insane that Sony projects to sell 6.2M for this coming quarter. It would be a historic Q1. If Sony can keep up that kind of sales momentum, we can be looking at 30M FY24. I also suspect that if the ABK deal closes, Sony will bid for Take Two. Take Two will give them the only game that's bigger than COD (GTA) and a leading mobile game publisher in Zynga. Take Two is valued at $18B on a projected revenue of $4.5-$5B. Sony would likely have to pay $26B to get the deal done. But buying Take Two doesn't fully counter the huge leg up in IPs that MS gets from ABK. ABK has many more tier 1 franchises aside from COD, such as WOW, Diablo, Starcraft and Overwatch. I would argue that ABK on it's own has more attractive IPs and game sales than Sony entire 1st party roster at the moment. That doesn't take into account the juggernaut franchises that MS gained from the Bethesda deal (ES, Fallout).
I give Jim Ryan and others at Playstation credit for NOT making a PS5 "S" version. Smart move on their part.
You guys are missing the point I think. Sure the S was for people with less money (plus Game Pass) but it's also for people that don't care about the best graphics and are not as Hardcore. Do you think Switch owners are all poor? I know several people with cheapo phones that do everything they need and they make six figures. People have different priorities. It also makes for a great secondary console introducing more people to the brand.As harsh as it sounds, pandering to people who don't have money during a recession is a bad idea. Reason being that in this environment when people don't have money, they really don't have money, to the extent that even a couple of hundred quid on a console is not feasible.
It's no coincidence that neither AMD or Nvidia are in a rush to release their mid-low end new generation GPU's. By and large the target audience for those products are squeezed, might as well wait until a time when you can release them with better margins.
You guys are missing the point I think. Sure the S was for people with less money (plus Game Pass) but it's also for people that don't care about the best graphics and are not as Hardcore. Do you think Switch owners are all poor? I know several people with cheapo phones that do everything they need and they make six figures. People have different priorities. It also makes for a great secondary console introducing more people to the brand.
You guys are missing the point I think. Sure the S was for people with less money (plus Game Pass) but it's also for people that don't care about the best graphics and are not as Hardcore. Do you think Switch owners are all poor? I know several people with cheapo phones that do everything they need and they make six figures. People have different priorities. It also makes for a great secondary console introducing more people to the brand.
THIS! Video game reports just don't understand that the "Best Deal in Gaming" is very slowly hurting Xbox for the long term. Nintendo and Playstation are doing it the correct way. They are like Disney at this point, whereas MS is like Universal Studios\Peacock+.
It's best to release your movies in movie theaters first and then put them on streaming later, than doing both day and date.
Gaming revenue comparison:
Hardware revenue comparison:
- Xbox = -13%
- PS = +53%
First-party content revenue comparison:
- Xbox = -13%
- PS = +119%
- Xbox = -12% (first- and third-party)
- PS = +22.7% (third party)
- PS = +43.45% (first-party)
They should make Elder Scrolls VI Xbox exclusive (or at least timed for 2-5 years). And I mean from PC, not PS5.
We may be looking at a landslide this generation and by that, I mean more than normal.
I'm going to assume worldwide there is a gap much larger than people are expecting.
Jesus Christ, that's brutal.
They should make Elder Scrolls VI Xbox exclusive (or at least timed for 2-5 years). And I mean from PC, not PS5.
Otherwise they need COD.
I give Jim Ryan and others at Playstation credit for NOT making a PS5 "S" version. Smart move on their part.
Like I said good luck proving your struggling like Sony is claiming it will be. Remember COD is a ground breaking game that Sony can't live without and the company won't be the same if MS buys ABK. BS Get those docs ready Jim.
Also my GOTY in 2021well, 20.8 mil but yeah
god of war ragnarok
god of war
gran turismo 7
horizon forbidden west
the last of us part 1
the last of us part 2
ratchet rift apart
miles morales
ghost of tsushima
mlb 22
all charted in the last few months
We may be looking at a landslide this generation and by that, I mean more than normal.
I'm going to assume worldwide there is a gap much larger than people are expecting.
Jesus Christ, that's brutal.
Thats basically what i said last year. If sony wants to stay in this business, they simply cannot afford to lose cod. And GTA will be their break out of jail card.Kind of insane that Sony projects to sell 6.2M for this coming quarter. It would be a historic Q1. If Sony can keep up that kind of sales momentum, we can be looking at 30M FY24. I also suspect that if the ABK deal closes, Sony will bid for Take Two. Take Two will give them the only game that's bigger than COD (GTA) and a leading mobile game publisher in Zynga. Take Two is valued at $18B on a projected revenue of $4.5-$5B. Sony would likely have to pay $26B to get the deal done. But buying Take Two doesn't fully counter the huge leg up in IPs that MS gets from ABK. ABK has many more tier 1 franchises aside from COD, such as WOW, Diablo, Starcraft and Overwatch. I would argue that ABK on it's own has more attractive IPs and game sales than Sony entire 1st party roster at the moment. That doesn't take into account the juggernaut franchises that MS gained from the Bethesda deal (ES, Fallout).
No the point is if this goes to court the fallout could be brutal for both. However, go ahead with your console waring ideas it make the thread fun! Apple and Epic were quite entertaining I'm sure Sony and MS can top it! I think MS could have been blocked but, Sony blew up COD like it's the only IP that matters from 3rd parties. Now they got to try and prove that point. Another words were in for a good ride unless Sony back down. MS isn't going to because they have too much at stake!The point of contention is whether MS, using money gleaned through activities that have nothing to do with videogames, can be allowed to make such colossal acquisitions; and whether such moves can negatively impact the competitive landscape going forward...
It's not about whether Sony is doing fine today.
You made a pretty dumb point...but that is to be expected by now.
No the point is if this goes to court the fallout could be brutal for both. However, go ahead with your console waring ideas it make the thread fun! Apple and Epic were quite entertaining I'm sure Sony and MS can top it!
Another reason not to have an S is that Sony use PS4 for that purpose. I always wondered why Xbox bothered with Series S when Xbox One is right there.It doesn't take a genius to work out the fact that the switch and the PS5/Xbox serve different purposes. So much so that Xbox gave gone on record in stating they don't see the switch as a competing console to their offerings. The same goes for those who game on mobile phones.
If it was such a great solution then it would be selling by the truckload, especially at a time like this, but the fact is that a incremental/sideways upgrade over previous gen consoles (especially the mid-gen refresh machines) is not seen as an attractive proposition for the majority of gamers who seek to play AAA games on console.
And no, I'm not suggesting people who purchase the switch are poor either. Price alone is only one part of the equation and if you didn't notice Nintendo don't offer a more premium solution.
Kind of insane that Sony projects to sell 6.2M for this coming quarter. It would be a historic Q1. If Sony can keep up that kind of sales momentum, we can be looking at 30M FY24. I also suspect that if the ABK deal closes, Sony will bid for Take Two. Take Two will give them the only game that's bigger than COD (GTA) and a leading mobile game publisher in Zynga. Take Two is valued at $18B on a projected revenue of $4.5-$5B. Sony would likely have to pay $26B to get the deal done. But buying Take Two doesn't fully counter the huge leg up in IPs that MS gets from ABK. ABK has many more tier 1 franchises aside from COD, such as WOW, Diablo, Starcraft and Overwatch. I would argue that ABK on it's own has more attractive IPs and game sales than Sony entire 1st party roster at the moment. That doesn't take into account the juggernaut franchises that MS gained from the Bethesda deal (ES, Fallout).
Another reason not to have an S is that Sony use PS4 for that purpose. I always wondered why Xbox bothered with Series S when Xbox One is right there.
PS4 is still a good starter machine for people who want to save money and never had one. Sony always keep the previous gen alive for a long time for a reason.
I agree that T2 is the likely target if the ABK. deal closes.
I think T2 is actually a much better buy than CoD. It's easier to make a CoD killer than it is to make a GTA killer and T2 gives you entry into every major sport except for football, but gives you an option to explore football again when the time is right. Red Dead is bigger than all the games you mentioned outside of CoD.
Zynga gives you direct entry into mobile.
If Sony were to buy T2, I see them going directly after the FIFA license as well.
T2 compliments Sony is ways that no other company does.
If they put GTA6 and Red Dead 3 and Red Dead remake exclusively on a PC PlayStation launcher, that gets them immediate entry along with TLOU MP, Gran Turismo 7/VR, e.t.c.
If I'm Sony, I'd go all in on T2, and then still look at CDPR and From Software.
At this point, Microsoft can buy Activision, EA and ubisoft and they would still be behind Sony. Its not just a meme, there really is no stopping this train. I don't see anyone stopping sonys dominance. Well, except for themselves.
Only way I see this working is if Sony agreed to continue allows T2 games to be multiplatform.