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Spring Anime 2015 |OT| The Disappearance of YEAARRT!

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Hi there, AnimeGAF! Nice to meet you all!
I don't know where else to ask, so I've decided to ask here. Is it worth it start watching Digimon from the beginning if I have no nostalgia for it at all? They didn't show it here back in my childhood, Pokemon, Sailor Moon and Shaman King were my jam. Only encounter I had with the franchise was a godawful MMO. But I'm kind of interested now, and all the recent developments (movie series, PSP/Vita/3DS games, merchandise) look pretty great. So, are there any recommendations? Where to begin, what to watch, what not to? Should I bother at all?

Yes, you should. Make sure to watch the Japanese version with English subtitles, as the English dub of Digimon is one of the worst ever created.

The original Adventure holds up quite well and is one of the best kids shows of its time. The best watch order would be Adventure (movie) - Adventure (series) - Our War Game. The sequel, Adventure 02, can be skipped unless you really want to brave it.

Also at the very least watch Digimon Tamers and Savers (both are stand alone). They're both excellent shows.
 

cajunator

Banned
Wait. What. For real? Is that a yes? lol!
I'm big enough a fan to join her FC and fly to Japan for her concerts.

Come to think of it, Kajiura has composed for quite a number of series that has yuri subtext.

I envy your job.
But yes Yuki Kajiura is my favorite anime music composer easily.
 

striferser

Huge Nickleback Fan
Wait. What. For real? Is that a yes? lol!
I'm big enough a fan to join her FC and fly to Japan for her concerts.

Come to think of it, Kajiura has composed for quite a number of series that has yuri subtext.

I'm jelly.
I did attend Kalafina concert, so i guess it's close enough (no Kajiura untortunately, and i miss the chance to get their autograph)
 

Midonin

Member
Aikatsu! Akari Generation 132

Another new idol unit is born! I liked how this story played out. Hinaki assisted Juri in attempting to find a partner, only to realize that she was the partner she was looking for all along. There aren't that many main characters left - especially since Miyabi went back to her own school - so the show is pretty heavily hinting that Madoka and Akari are going to be the last ones to team up. Passionate Jalapeno is a bit of an odd name for an idol unit, but these two go well together. I really liked Juri's bullfighting fantasy with her and Hinaki, too. Bringing back some good Nadja memories.
 
Yes the Code TVU (UtaPri) full version is just as amazing as it the short version was in the anime. Too bad they are taking them off of youtube swiftly. Syo Cecil and Ren sound so good together.
 

Link Man

Banned
Finally finished Koufuku Graffiti, very cute show. Its gimmick kind of got old quick, but luckily it had just enough character to avoid being boring. Last episode even brought some tears, and not because it was a graduation episode.

Seems like they left it open to a sequel, but if they do, I hope they get more creative with the food porn (not Soma creative, of course).
 
http://youtu.be/-qq7Rb6r-Ws. This video is awesome. Is that violinist from Your lie in April? Also I think the guitar girls with cat ears might be from Saekano.
this is basically telling me to watch both shows.

Are you saying you've never watched Your Lie in April, Cajun? Lawd!! Get on that! It's quickly become one of my favorite anime of all time. It got dangerously close to beating out Clannad as my favorite anime ever. So good.
 

cajunator

Banned
Are you saying you've never watched Your Lie in April, Cajun? Lawd!! Get on that! It's quickly become one of my favorite anime of all time. It got dangerously close to beating out Clannad as my favorite anime ever. So good.

Havent exactly had a lot of free time to watch anime.
 
Ninja Slayer 04

I think the best thing about this show is that whenever someone introduces themselves there are just explosions behind them for no reason. Also that Ninja Slayer can eat noodles through his mask.
 

PK Gaming

Member
Hello to AnimeGAF. First post in here. I think I noticed a few fellow yuri goggles wearing gaffers.

Welcome to AnimeGAF, may I take your order?

Unfortunately, yuri goggles are completely unnecessary in this day and age, so we don't offer them anymore. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Euphonium 5
The show to make me regret not joining the band back in school.
I really like Kumiko's many faces in the show. She's so awkward around Reina. The seiyuu did well in conveying her nervousness too. However, I must say that I don't like the direction they seem to be heading towards with Reina and the sensei. I hope I'm wrong about this... it would be nice if they kept the romance to a minimum and focused only on the band. By the way, what is the significance behind the hair flick that Reina did after apologizing for blowing her Trumpet while they were waiting for their turn?

I wouldn't worry about it. I haven't read the LN, but I think they'll keep Reina's (obvious) crush on Taki sensei to a minimum. It's just a gut feeling of mine.
 

Midonin

Member
Etotama 05

I liked the joking about the light beams. Not only is it in line with this show's anything-goes approach to the fourth wall, removing them on Blu-Ray would actually do something bad - ruin the joke! They're such an expected part of an anime's TV broadcast that they can sometimes be written in - it's something everyone plays along with. Otherwise, this was basically an excuse for chaos, in a fun way. Like having Dora-tan go all Bruce Lee on everybody. The show's even turning Uri-tan's demise into a Kenny-esque running gag. A bit disappointed this means we may not get to see Mei-tan's avatar fighting in a battle - then I could make plenty of Cure Rosetta jokes - but maybe that can come later.

Also, the revelation that Sha and Chu are on speaking terms introduces an interesting wrinkle into things. Snakes are known for having a morally ambiguous reputation in all media, though I'm not sure if the Eastern perception of them is any more positive. Fun show - I think the Thursday duo might be my favorite batch of shows this season, though it's hard to decide.
 

VRMN

Member
As things currently stand, my still over-sized watch list. I just know I'm going to wind up dropping something I think is okay just to clear up time. Though I at least have some sub-par shows to dispose of before it comes to that.

Great
My Teen Romantic Comedy SNAFU TOO! - I think I'm liking this more than the first season, but that has a lot to do with Hachiman showing more of the results of his slow-burning character development.
My Love Story!! - It's a cute first love story that's moving at a decent clip. The couple is fun even as they're going through some growing pains, but it's nothing that I don't find enjoyable because nothing's been stretched out too long yet.

Good
Plastic Memories - I really like this show, but it's feeling a little too predictable to me. I need the show to surprise me at least a little, but that may be my own selfishness.
Sound! Euphonium - From what I've heard, I'd love this even more if I was in band in school. I wasn't, but that's not keeping me from loving the show. Even if body insecurity jokes make me annoyed in something as otherwise high quality as this.
The Disappearance of Nagato Yuki-chan - Haruhi breathes some life into the proceedings, but I'm still mostly here for the Yuki goodness, of which there is plenty and more to come as well.
I Can't Understand What My Husband is Saying 2nd Thread - Going a little strong with the younger brother's attempt at a love life, but it's still funny.
Wish Upon the Pleiades - This is shockingly good. I mean, it's been solid from the start, but it's gained a lot of depth and done it surprisingly well. Considering Sailor Moon and Nanoha have been massive disappointments, perhaps the cosmos is balancing out by making this exceed my hopes.
Yamada-kun and the Seven Witches - Well, they slowed this the hell down, to its benefit. They're still going to be sprinting the entire way, but maybe more at a pace to get 60 chapters covered in the cour instead of 90 now. Season season imminent?

Okay
Assassination Classroom - I'm just not feeling this recently; the setting just bugs me inherently even if the comedy is pretty solid and it has some great moments.
Go! Princess Precure - I like how everyone already knows the current central villain is going to become the fourth Precure of this incarnation. But the show is actually pretty well done so far this year; I'm enjoying the ride.
Is It Wrong to Try to Pick Up Girls in a Dungeon? - Bell's just levelling up his harem skills along with his battle skills. I'd say I don't get how he hasn't had his way with Hestia yet, but no one in anime ever notices the affections of characters that close to themselves by default.
Nisekoi: - Haru's got to show up this week, right? Right?
Fate/Stay Night Unlimited Blade Works 2nd Season - Archer somehow escaping from
Lancer's grasp
while in that condition, then
landing the final blow on Caster
, is maybe the most unbelievable thing I've seen in a Type-Moon universe show. And Carnival Phantasm had Berser-Car.
Mikagura School Suite - Eruna's great, but it's still a one woman show where I don't care about anyone else. Mediocre shows can get away with leaning heavily on one charismatic character. Good shows can't.
Punch Line - I like the hints of conspiracy going on in the background, but it hasn't really gone anywhere yet. Thankfully it seems that's about to change and quickly. Here's hoping it gets good.
Dragon Ball Kai - I don't know how I feel about Dragon Ball Super's announcement. It can't be worse than GT, right?
Hello!! Kin-iro Mosaic - Cute, harmless fluff, but like fluff, there's nothing to it.

Bad
Blood Blockade Battlefront - This show is way too disjointed to really follow as well as I should be able to. Way too much of the background is told through text, as well. But props to the MC for moving in on the main girl so quickly.
Food Wars! Shokugeki no Soma - Erina is damn near insufferable already. Quite an achievement considering her limited presence so far.
Seraph of the End: Vampire Reign - I've managed to convince myself for the time being that Shinoa is worth the inane male posturing that comprises 90% of the show. But I have no idea how long that'll last.
Sailor Moon Crystal - Oh look, it's the
Corrupted-by-the-big-bad
plot, but with a character who
deserved to get her ass handed to her
without the convenient excuse.

Dropped
Ninja Slayer - Not funny anymore. Wasn't especially funny to begin with. Say your death haiku now. Bye.
Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha ViVid - Training arcs aren't fun as a bridge between plots in long-running shows. They're especially not fun when your show has no plots to bridge between. StrikerS at least had a pending threat. This is just fucking boring. Gone.
Gunslinger Stratos - Didn't even make it three episodes and I don't regret it one iota.
 

Baalzebup

Member
Fate/Stay Night Unlimited Blade Works 2nd Season - Archer somehow escaping from
Lancer's grasp
while in that condition, then
landing the final blow on Caster,
is maybe the most unbelievable thing I've seen in a Type-Moon universe show. And Carnival Phantasm had Beser-Car.

This kinda jumped at me, seeing as Archer
didn't escape and was, rather, let go.
It seems you kinda missed the point of what Archer and Lancer were talking about after the whole Rho Aias vs Gae Bolg thing. Lancer realised what Archer was up to and
didn't see a point in hanging around, as the purpose of him allying with Shirou and Rin was about to be fulfilled.
Points for having seen Carnival Phantasm though :p
 
I wouldn't worry about it. I haven't read the LN, but I think they'll keep Reina's (obvious) crush on Taki sensei to a minimum. It's just a gut feeling of mine.

Just a minor tiff, but the Sound Euphonium series is a group of novels, not light novels. They're not categorized as such and I want to emphasize that the writing is of a higher quality than the light novels I've read. Takeda does a great job weaving many plots together, but she does have some weaknesses with giving enough time for characters to fully be fleshed out in such a huge cast. Thankfully some of that is solved by the additional novels.
 

Jex

Member
Hi there, AnimeGAF! Nice to meet you all!
I don't know where else to ask, so I've decided to ask here. Is it worth it start watching Digimon from the beginning if I have no nostalgia for it at all? They didn't show it here back in my childhood, Pokemon, Sailor Moon and Shaman King were my jam. Only encounter I had with the franchise was a godawful MMO. But I'm kind of interested now, and all the recent developments (movie series, PSP/Vita/3DS games, merchandise) look pretty great. So, are there any recommendations? Where to begin, what to watch, what not to? Should I bother at all?

That's kind of a hard question. Digimon was an above average toy commercial with some occasional great episodes (namely Mamoru Hosoda's episode). Whether or not you find that to be worth your time in 2015 is really up to you. I'd recommend at least checking it out to see how you feel, ideally in the uncut Japanese.

The only things that I can say are truly worthy of anyone's time is the Hosoda episode and the movie he directed.
 

PK Gaming

Member
Just a minor tiff, but the Sound Euphonium series is a group of novels, not light novels. They're not categorized as such and I want to emphasize that the writing is of a higher quality than the light novels I've read. Takeda does a great job weaving many plots together, but she does have some weaknesses with giving enough time for characters to fully be fleshed out in such a huge cast. Thankfully some of that is solved by the additional novels.

Ah sorry, my bad.

By the way, I've been meaning to ask you a few questions, if you don't mind answering.

-How strong is the adaptation so far?
-How faithful is it?
-How do you feel about the overall characterization so far? (What was Tani like in the novels?)
-How do you feel about the blatant ship baiting between the protagonist and Kousaka?
 

VRMN

Member
This kinda jumped at me, seeing as Archer
didn't escape and was, rather, let go.
It seems you kinda missed the point of what Archer and Lancer were talking about after the whole Rho Aias vs Gae Bolg thing. Lancer realised what Archer was up to and
didn't see a point in hanging around, as the purpose of him allying with Shirou and Rin was about to be fulfilled.
Points for having seen Carnival Phantasm though :p

I get that, but his job was expressly to keep Archer away from the fight because Rin and Shiro couldn't take all three of them. Caster wasn't defeated yet and there was no guarantee that Archer wasn't full of shit. And while he did complete that job, he immediately proved his untrustworthiness. Lancer's job wasn't done; he just trusted Archer to complete it when he really shouldn't have. The "right" move is finishing off Archer and then going for Caster himself, both from a short term alliance and a long term strategy perspective. Archer is a dangerous foe to let go when you could finish him off and his loyalty is to his Master, or should be. But then we couldn't have what's coming up with Archer.
 

Baalzebup

Member
I get that, but his job was expressly to keep Archer away from the fight because Rin and Shiro couldn't take all three of them. Caster wasn't defeated yet and there was no guarantee that Archer wasn't full of shit. And while he did complete that job, he immediately proved his untrustworthiness. Lancer's job wasn't done; he just trusted Archer to complete it when he really shouldn't have. The "right" move is finishing off Archer and then going for Caster himself. But then we couldn't have what's coming up with Archer.

This, I guess, would have to be filed under the usual thing with the weird assumption of how most of everything your enemy says is true. Like, how often in general do we have people contemplating that someone might actually be lying when something like this comes up, where anime and manga in general is concerned.

All those shocking reveals and "I am you father/bother/house cat" moments and everyone laps that shit up with zero filtering and doubt.

This would be a fairer point if he wasn't dealing with a backstabbing traitor whose trustworthiness he decried at the start of the same fight. Who proceeded to backstab Caster, and then Rin once again, given another opportunity.

I did say it was a weird assumption :p But is it very typical none the less. I only need to look at my avatar and remember all the shit that goes on in Bleach to remember some really golden moments that make Lancer seem like a reasonably suspicious dude.
 
Upcoming Episode List for Kekkai Sensen

Staff (Episode director / Storyboard / Animation director)

Episode 7 : E-den of Master Fighters
>Satou Ikurou / Yoshikazu Miyao & Matsumoto Rie / Mizuhata Kenji

Episode 8 : Z’s Longest Day (Part 1)
>Fujimoto Jiro / Tamura Kotaro & Matsumoto Rie / Horikawa Koichi

Episode 9 : Z’s Longest Day (Part 2)
>Masashi Abe / Fukuda Michio & Matsumoto Rie / Hasegawa Hitomi & Satou Chiharu

Episode 10 : Run! Lunch!! Run!!! / to the end.
>Satou Ikurou / Tomohiko Ito & Matsumoto Rie / Tomioka Ryuji


Seeing that Matsumoto Rie is basically doing all the storyboards for each episode really shows how devoted she is to this series. I'm so glad Bones gave her a chance and letting her do what ever she wants. Also going by episode 7,8, and 9 it seems there's gonna be some good sakuga. I really hope it turns out well.

Also if this gets a second season we may see Chain Possible (Mission Possible) and Butler being like Alfred adapted. Though chances are good for this to get a second season due to BD and Manga sales doing well.
 

VRMN

Member
This, I guess, would have to be filed under the usual thing with the weird assumption how most of everything your enemy says is true. Like, how often in general do we have people contemplating that someone might actually be lying when something like this comes up, where anime and manga in general is concerned.

All those shocking reveals and "I am you father/bother/house cat" moments and everyone laps that shit up with zero filtering and doubt.

This would be a fairer point if he wasn't dealing with a backstabbing traitor whose trustworthiness he decried at the start of the same fight. Who proceeded to backstab Caster, and then Rin once again, given another opportunity.
 
Ah sorry, my bad.

By the way, I've been meaning to ask a few questions, if you don't mind answering.

-How strong is the adaptation so far?
-How faithful is it?
-How do you feel about the overall characterization so far?
-How do you feel about the blatant ship baiting between the protagonist in Kousaka?

First, I have to get something out that's been bottled up inside me for a while: the narration in the novel constantly goes "Reina" as Kumiko goes on first-name basis with everyone and so it's been a bit challenging for me when everyone in the West to call her "Kousaka" and I mentally check who that is. I've gotten used to it, but that has been the most annoying part of the adaptation thus far. It's not anyone's fault here or elsewhere; it just is what it is.

What's important to me in an adaptation isn't necessarily faithfulness (but Euphonium has been really faithful for the vast majority of it), but if something captures the proper tone of the original. I liked that Ishihara/Hanada spent an episode delving into Kumiko's tendancy to want to change and question who she is as the novel didn't do that. It felt weird watching it when I recalled the entire bit about joining the club occur on one day time-wise, but this felt just as right to me. Other aspects, such as the last episode have been done nearly 1:1 (minus the bust size issue) and have faithfully been carried over. Asuka is much more of a music nerd in there and there's a lot less yuri-pandering from her (the bit about her having so much to say about the Euphonium essentially took up an entire page in the novel with useless information), but she's as energetic about that as in the novel.

I've had to hold back so much about Reina as she didn't appear much in the first half of the novel (which is why Ishihara/Hanada focused so much on the reconciliation to feature her in eps 1/2) besides the riverside conversation intrusion and the conversation later. I don't want to say too much as I fear for spoiling things, but there was definitely a sense of closeness between her and Kumiko in the novel that I immensely enjoyed. When I translated the character chart for my primer post, I put them as "gravitated together" as they have some character traits in common and work well as a pair. It's one reason why I bought their coaster sets. There's a bit in the second novel that I love which won't get featured in this adaptation which made me smile as they fit well together. I honestly see them as being closer together than Kumiko's friendships with Hazuki and Sapphire.

Speaking of those two, outside of the bit which Ishihara/Hanada inserted, notice how little they featured in the past episode. That's more reflective of the novel; Asuka and Natsuki were more whom Kumiko talked with than Hazuhi/Sapphire. Seeing the series promoted as a four-girl series similar to K-On! bugged me as I knew the content wasn't truly reflective of that and it was setting up for viewers to be disappointing. For the most part Ishihara/Hanada have done well to include them such that it doesn't feel awkward for those who haven't read the novel, but it's something I've noted.

When I read the novel, I kept coming back to one thought: these characters feel real. The conversations and actions were incredibly natural and entertaining to me. I became incredibly engaged and wanted to see what happened next (I ended up speeding through the ~100 pg chapter 4 to finish it in one afternoon). Seeing everyone talk about how great of a character Kumiko is and how everything feels like they remember if is incredibly reflective of how I felt when reading the novel. That's why it's a great adaptation for me, even with a few flaws.
 
Etotama - 05

Man this was chaotic, but in a fun way. Quite the few references in this too. I believe I managed to spot JoJo (nsfw?), Kill Bill, Senran Kagura? This show is full of surprises.
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No. It's not even the OST, it's the dub in general with it's horrible chatter and bad lines...yikes.

Of course, the OST is also a big deal, given how good the original is, and how poor the dub music is. But the script is an even bigger issue. Terrible puns, awful dialogue, and the altering of every character. What a terrible dub.
 

PK Gaming

Member
Thank you, that was a pretty thought provoking response. You've given me a lot of things to think about.

(Boy do I wish I could read Japanese. I really want to read the novels now)
 
Hi there, AnimeGAF! Nice to meet you all!
I don't know where else to ask, so I've decided to ask here. Is it worth it start watching Digimon from the beginning if I have no nostalgia for it at all? They didn't show it here back in my childhood, Pokemon, Sailor Moon and Shaman King were my jam. Only encounter I had with the franchise was a godawful MMO. But I'm kind of interested now, and all the recent developments (movie series, PSP/Vita/3DS games, merchandise) look pretty great. So, are there any recommendations? Where to begin, what to watch, what not to? Should I bother at all?

Watch Digimon Tamers and Data Squad. Skip the rest.
 
As per Cornbread's good word and recommendation I started watching Clannad, thought I'd only get time this weekend, but my schedule opened up. Only watched one episode but I enjoyed what I saw. At first the 4:3 format and the character's eyes (something that I mentioned before) kinda bothered me, but just like a fellow gaffer said here, getting used to it is quite easy. So there's 20 something episodes, plus an entire other season afterwards and a movie. When should I watch the latter? After both seasons or in the middle of both? Trying not to do too much searching online so I don't get spoiled on anything.
 

VRMN

Member
As per Cornbread's good word and recommendation I started watching Clannad, thought I'd only get time this weekend, but my schedule opened up. Only watched one episode but I enjoyed what I saw. At first the 4:3 format and the character's eyes (something that I mentioned before) kinda bothered me, but just like a fellow gaffer said here, getting used to it is quite easy. So there's 20 something episodes, plus an entire other season afterwards and a movie. When should I watch the latter? After both seasons or in the middle of both? Trying not to do too much searching online so I don't get spoiled on anything.

...4:3 format? The show was aired widescreen when it aired. I think there were some stations that aired it 4:3 because it was 2007, but the BD and DVD releases were all 16:9, I'm pretty sure.

Anyway, first season, then second season, ignore the garbage movie. It's a half-baked attempt to tell the entire story in 90 minutes or so and it fails miserably. I think I'd like it more if it wasn't "Clannad," but it is, so bleh.
 

madp

The Light of El Cantare
Sdburton reaction to that one made me avoid it completly , and i like yuri shows.

Seriously , Sdburton said that therewas too much ...

argh i can't even imagine.

Yami is a simple test that separates the true shoujo ai fans from the pretenders. That's all.
 
...4:3 format? The show was aired widescreen when it aired. I think there were some stations that aired it 4:3 because it was 2007, but the BD and DVD releases were all 16:9, I'm pretty sure.

Anyway, first season, then second season, ignore the garbage movie. It's a half-baked attempt to tell the entire story in 90 minutes or so and it fails miserably. I think I'd like it more if it wasn't "Clannad," but it is, so bleh.
You are right, I am watching it elsewhere now and it is 16:9.

And got it, I'll skip the movie then. Thanks!
 

e_i

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I'm not really following the scene. Does that mean "Best Girl Mayaka & her slightly boring friends" will finally arrive in the west ?
 

Jex

Member
[Ninja Slayer] - 4

I think I preferred this back when it was just a terrible Newgrounds flash cartoon. Now it's just kind of a shoddy anime.
 

e_i

Member
I'm not really following the scene. Does that mean "Best Girl Mayaka & her slightly boring friends" will finally arrive in the west ?

That's what people think it is. I know Sentai has been pestered by fans for years for this to be licensed. So, the tweet makes it sound like "Yes, it's the one you all have been asking about. We gots it!"
 
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