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Star Citizen Pre-Alpha: Hangar Module

Ghost

Chili Con Carnage!
The Org stats they put up are insane, 27000 people in clans for a game isn't even out yet has got to be some kind of record.
 

MrBig

Member
Was able to do a bit of work on the branding for the org today - if anyone is planning on starting a specialized GAF org and would like to use this I'll be happy to share the PSD or modify it for you
gaf_techpanel_banner5lsg1.png


e: would someone mind taking and linking to me a screenshot of the application page for the org? I can't preview that page so I have no idea what the intro looks like or if the formatting is functional.
 
Was able to do a bit of work on the branding for the org today - if anyone is planning on starting a specialized GAF org and would like to use this I'll be happy to share the PSD or modify it for you
gaf_techpanel_banner5lsg1.png


e: would someone mind taking and linking to me a screenshot of the application page for the org? I can't preview that page so I have no idea what the intro looks like or if the formatting is functional.

looks awesome! Just sent my request
 

Cereal

Member
Just sent in my application for the Org. Cereal on SC as well. Can't wait to space pirate some shit with you guys... errr I mean, can't wait to be an upstanding and helpful citizen with you guys... yeah, that's it.
 

Blizzard

Banned
I feel like this organization stuff is signing up for gameplay that won't even exist until 12+ months from now. :p

Has anyone signed up yet to rise through the ranks of a GAF organization, only to betray everyone and turn over the keys at a crucial juncture, Eve style? Someone should, got to keep things interesting.
 

Smiley90

Stop shitting on my team. Start shitting on my finger.
I feel like this organization stuff is signing up for gameplay that won't even exist until 12+ months from now. :p

Has anyone signed up yet to rise through the ranks of a GAF organization, only to betray everyone and turn over the keys at a crucial juncture, Eve style? Someone should, got to keep things interesting.

I vote us early adapters get to pick our own rank titles.

So far we're all Junior Junior Citizens.
 

MrBig

Member
That is one sexy logo. It looks a bit blurry on the actual corp page for some reason, though :/

Thanks. The compression is on RSI's end. They're compressing a PNG to save a whole ~20kb.

I vote us early adapters get to pick our own rank titles.

So far we're all Junior Junior Citizens.

Yeah I just stuck that on there instead of leaving it at recruit.

This is the entirety of the user rank/role options currently available - still in a very basic form. We can discuss what the titles and rolls can be now, and please do because I'm blanking, but as Blizzard notes this is just an empty shell of what will actually matter down the line.

If anyone wants to help with the writing for the front page or approving applications (one of the reason I have people post here is I receive no notification of applicants unless I specifically check for them) for the org please send me a PM or post about it here.
 

Smiley90

Stop shitting on my team. Start shitting on my finger.
Thanks. The compression is on RSI's end. They're compressing a PNG to save a whole ~20kb.



Yeah I just stuck that on there instead of leaving it at recruit.

This is the entirety of the user rank/role options currently available - still in a very basic form. We can discuss what the titles and rolls can be now, and please do because I'm blanking, but as Blizzard notes this is just an empty shell of what will actually matter down the line.

Ah, you can't make up titles/roles yourself? Like, you can only pick from the presets atm? That sucks.

EDIT: Or wait, you can have Ranks from 0 to 5 and name those? But not more than that? :(
 

MrBig

Member
Ah, you can't make up titles/roles yourself? Like, you can only pick from the presets atm? That sucks.

EDIT: Or wait, you can have Ranks from 0 to 5 and name those? But not more than that? :(

You can name/assign the ranks and rolls but no more than that. Very bare bones atm.
 

MrBig

Member
So we can't do individual ones since there's only 5 differently nameable ones........ damnit.

Yep.

My current wish list for user management would be: org-wide nickname system (so staff members can assign per-user titles or nicks); Custom ranks (admin can control how many ranks are available, eg restrict to just 1 rank or 100, and the ability to have only named ranks - not a progression/star system); tagging system (users can create their own tags for themselves within the org, eg that they're interested in performing a certain role like bartering or escort flying, perhaps users can tag eachother as well, subject to staff moderation and rank restriction); custom roles (admin can create roles - currently "branding", "officer", etc - and define their admin panel access). Actual gameplay/org interaction is a topic that isn't even in the picture yet though.
 

Zabojnik

Member
Guys, Star Citizen is the A Song of Ice and Fire of vidyagames. 2016 release. You heard it here first.
No, you haven't.
 

Daedardus

Member
Guys, Star Citizen is the A Song of Ice and Fire of vidyagames. 2016 release. You heard it here first.
No, you haven't.

If it was the Song of Ice and Fire for video games I wouldn't expect a release before 2025 though :p . I can't even remember how long I had to wait for Dance with Dragons.
 

Roulette

Member
Was able to do a bit of work on the branding for the org today - if anyone is planning on starting a specialized GAF org and would like to use this I'll be happy to share the PSD or modify it for you
gaf_techpanel_banner5lsg1.png

Happy for you to create a custom brand banner for https://robertsspaceindustries.com/orgs/GAF. I made the name (Galactic Air Force) up in about 5 seconds, so I'm open to suggestions. It's sort of... yeah. Dunno how much sense having an 'Air' force makes for space combat. Maybe change to 'Aerospace'?

If we do split org's, I'd probably set up 'GAF' as a dedicated combat/raiding org.
 

Smiley90

Stop shitting on my team. Start shitting on my finger.
Happy for you to create a custom brand banner for https://robertsspaceindustries.com/orgs/GAF. I made the name (Galactic Air Force) up in about 5 seconds, so I'm open to suggestions. It's sort of... yeah. Dunno how much sense having an 'Air' force makes for space combat. Maybe change to 'Aerospace'?

If we do split org's, I'd probably set up 'GAF' as a dedicated combat/raiding org.

A could also stand for "Alternative", which would tie in nicely with split/specialized organizations.
 

MrBig

Member
How will the ranking system work?

You and others are welcome to discuss that here but my thoughts are to just keep it simple as my intention behind the org is to keep it, at the top level at least, social - Junior Citizen and Citizen just like junior/member on GAF. If you do dumb stuff while you're still a junior you'll be given less leniency to bounce back. That's as far as the current tools can take us at least. I've posted in the wishlist thread for other useful features.

Depending on the tools given to orgs in the future we will either have multiple orgs or we will have an internal branching structure of divisions/squadrons for people to join (eg branches for merchants, combat squads, fleet command, etc - this would depend on something like a group policy system being implemented) within the whole of the neogaf org.

As for staff duties, if you're interested send me a PM.
 

Smiley90

Stop shitting on my team. Start shitting on my finger.
I wonder if/how much you'll be able to customize you UI. This looks cool but in a heated space battle with a lot of participants you might want something more minimalistic.

very customizable. at least that's what they said. :p
 

MrBig

Member
Looked into RSI's chat stuff today, their xmpp server. I've used IRC for many years and don't have any experience with xmpp so it was a bit offputting, especially as the clients available for xmpp seem to be rather poorly designed, relative to long established irc clients at least, but as xmpp is a newer and more flexible protocol I can see why they're using it for chat both in and outside of the game.

So I looked in to it some more and found a way to connect to xmpp servers via irc using BritlBEE. Unfortunately there practically isn't a windows client yet so, for now at least, using this method means you'll have to use a public pass-through server, but I don't feel that is too much of a concern for this purpose.

I looked through their documentation and was able to get it set up and connect the #general and #neogaf RSI channels in a few minutes, but if others are interested in this I'll write up a guide of the exact commands you'll need to enter to get it all working.

I have my irc client up at pretty much all times so I'll be idling in the neogaf org chat channel as well.
 

XaeonBE

Member
Looked into RSI's chat stuff today, their xmpp server. I've used IRC for many years and don't have any experience with xmpp so it was a bit offputting, especially as the clients available for xmpp seem to be rather poorly designed, relative to long established irc clients at least, but as xmpp is a newer and more flexible protocol I can see why they're using it for chat both in and outside of the game.

So I looked in to it some more and found a way to connect to xmpp servers via irc using BritlBEE. Unfortunately there practically isn't a windows client yet so, for now at least, using this method means you'll have to use a public pass-through server, but I don't feel that is too much of a concern for this purpose.

I looked through their documentation and was able to get it set up and connect the #general and #neogaf RSI channels in a few minutes, but if others are interested in this I'll write up a guide of the exact commands you'll need to enter to get it all working.

I have my irc client up at pretty much all times so I'll be idling in the neogaf org chat channel as well.

I'm kinda an IRC fan too. I kinda hate the XMPP protocol too. So if you could give information on how to do this with IRC I would really appreciate it!
 

MrBig

Member
This will be using a server running BitlBEE to pass and translate xmpp channel data to IRC channel data. A local windows client is not presently available so you will have to connect to a public server listed on the BitlBEE site, eg "irc.net:6667".

  • Set up the server in your network list and connect using your case-sensitive SC handle.
  • When you join the server you should be dumped into #bitlBEE with a bot named root also in the channel. (note, you're communicating with the bot, not using / commands)
  • On first run you'll need to register using "register <password>". Create/enter a password for the bitlbee service.
  • Next you'll add the SC xmpp account. Handle is case sensitive. XMPP token is found on the settings page of your RSI account. "account add jabber <handle>@robertsspaceindustries.com <token>"
  • If working, you should see this account listed as entry #0 with command "account list" - the following assumes #0, change if different.
  • Define the server for this account "account 0 set server xmpp.robertsspaceindustries.com"
  • Connect to the xmpp server with "account on", you should receive an authentication and log in message.
  • Define xmpp channels you want to be able to connect to "chat add 0 <channel>@channels.robertsspaceindustries.com" The default RSI chat channel is "general", the NeoGAF org channel is "neogaf".
  • Join a defined channel via normal irc commands, eg "/join #general". Messages and users will be translated to IRC.

You can now set up user commands to automate connecting in the future
  • /rsi "say identify <password>"
  • /rsi "say account on"
  • Set up auto-join channels normally
 

XaeonBE

Member
This will be using a server running BitlBEE to pass and translate xmpp channel data to IRC channel data. A local windows client is not presently available so you will have to connect to a public server listed on the BitlBEE site, eg "irc.net:6667".

  • Set up the server in your network list and connect using your case-sensitive SC handle.
  • When you join the server you should be dumped into #bitlBEE with a bot named root also in the channel. (note, you're communicating with the bot, not using / commands)
  • On first run you'll need to register using "register <password>". Create/enter a password for the bitlbee service.
  • Next you'll add the SC xmpp account. Handle is case sensitive. XMPP token is found on the settings page of your RSI account. "account add jabber <handle>@robertsspaceindustries.com <token>"
  • If working, you should see this account listed as entry #0 with command "account list" - the following assumes #0, change if different.
  • Define the server for this account "account 0 set server xmpp.robertsspaceindustries.com"
  • Connect to the xmpp server with "account on", you should receive an authentication and log in message.
  • Define xmpp channels you want to be able to connect to "chat add 0 <channel>@channels.robertsspaceindustries.com" The default RSI chat channel is "general", the NeoGAF org channel is "neogaf".
  • Join a defined channel via normal irc commands, eg "/join #general". Messages and users will be translated to IRC.

You can now set up user commands to automate connecting in the future
  • /rsi "say identify <password>"
  • /rsi "say account on"
  • Set up auto-join channels normally

Thanks will keep checking this thread and just safed these instructions but I have a very rough exam Saturday so you won't see me on the IRC until Saturday.
 

Var

Member
Not sure my 7970 is going to run this as well as I would like. I think I am going to try to sell it while the resell prices are decent and grab a 780 ti.
 

Brick

Member
Applied for the Org. My username is Brickg (or maybe just Brick, not sure since it seems to list two usernames on the RSI website).
 

Raticus79

Seek victory, not fairness
Thanks. The compression is on RSI's end. They're compressing a PNG to save a whole ~20kb.

Their approach for avatars could use some work too, lol.

Original: 6KB .PNG
image.php


On RSI: 18KB .GIF
Master_Splinter.gif


They're upscaling to 165x165 and saving the result, then resizing that image again into the smaller size we see on screen (profile). GAF avatars are going to turn into a blurry mess as a result... better to upload 165x165 avatars.
 

MrBig

Member
They're upscaling to 165x165 and saving the result, then resizing that image again into the smaller size we see on screen (profile). GAF avatars are going to turn into a blurry mess as a result... better to upload 165x165 avatars.

I uploaded a double res version of the icon and header, looks much better and filesize appears to actually be smaller. Lossy compression for gif and png actually inreases file size as it increases the color table, the simpler/clearer the better.
 
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