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Star Wars and the Marvel Cinematic Universe will 'go on forever', says Disney CEO

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Pooya

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MCU is something they can milk forever and keep up the mediocre quality that they have so far and the fans will be happy. Star Wars is just a very different property, how many spin offs can they make. main series surely can't go on forever before completely jumping the shark again.
 

Broken Joystick

At least you can talk. Who are you?
THey barely tapped it.

I mean we are getting a Damage Control series, that shows they are ready to go Balls deep/

Exactly.

"Superhero" movies don't have to be these gigantic, world-ending affairs. I'd argue like many others have that the term "superhero movie" is a gross generalisation in many cases.
 
I can't wait to see what we get when they start getting more inventive. I already like what I'm hearing out of Star Wars where they are going for different genres with the anthology series.
 

Slayven

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There are like six thousand Marvel characters. Fox has movie rights for like maybe a couple hundred and they've only used three properly.
That is some Amadeus Cho level math
I can't wait to see what we get when they start getting more inventive. I already like what I'm hearing out of Star Wars where they are going for different genres with the anthology series.

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Breakbeat

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I can remember more quotes from Freddy Got Fingered than The Revenant. Which has a stronger script?

A film can have a mediocre script and still be a good film, if it's a film that's more focused on visual storytelling. Gravity's script was pretty miserable in parts but so much of the story was told through the brilliant cinematography.
 

Sesha

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With how big they're going in phase 3, I honestly wonder what the plan is after that.

Feige's words in interviews suggest they're going to be expanding each corner of the MCU (street level, cosmic, technology, magical, etc.) into their own franchises. So cosmic with Guardians as a centerpiece will form its own thing, Inhumans will probably expand like they have in the comics, Thor will probably expand with Loki, Sif, etc., Avengers into something like New, Mighty, Ultimates. At least, that's how I interpret it. And they're probably adding more "categories", like they've done with the cosmic realm and doing with the magical.
 

Interfectum

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A film can have a mediocre script and still be a good film, if it's a film that's more focused on visual storytelling. Gravity's script was pretty miserable in parts but so much of the story was told through the brilliant cinematography.

Sure but I'm just saying, some movies have really good scripts with natural dialogue that doesn't lend itself to being quotable. In fact I think movies with bad scripts and cheesy dialogue are usually far more quotable.

So using the barometer "how many quotes can you remember from movie X" as being any sort of gauge of movie quality seems weird to me.
 
Feige's words in interviews suggest they're going to be expanding each corner of the MCU (street level, cosmic, technology, magical, etc.) into their own franchises. So cosmic with Guardians as a centerpiece will form its own thing, Inhumans will probably expand like they have in the comics, Thor will probably expand with Loki, Sif, etc., Avengers into something like New, Mighty, Ultimates. At least, that's how I interpret it. And they're probably adding more "categories", like they've done with the cosmic realm and doing with the magical.

It's strange how the imagery from this is a cow slowly having its life drained.
 

Futureman

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Star Wars was what? 6 movies over 25 years or so? By 2040 there will be 25 more Star Wars movies. Gonna get tiring seeing these movies overhyped every year.
 

The Kree

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Prowler's costume is so goddamn hideous.

And I want a Wonder Man movie with all 3246592387645087 of his powers on display.
 

kinoki

Illness is the doctor to whom we pay most heed; to kindness, to knowledge, we make promise only; pain we obey.
MCU is something they can milk forever and keep up the mediocre quality that they have so far and the fans will be happy. Star Wars is just a very different property, how many spin offs can they make. main series surely can't go on forever before completely jumping the shark again.

Star Wars gained cult status from "less is more". That was a bit squandered with the prequel trilogy. I think Star Wars will lose a lot of its shine with these movies but it's stupid not to continue building. It's a fun universe to explore.
 

kswiston

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Star Wars gained cult status from "less is more". That was a bit squandered with the prequel trilogy. I think Star Wars will lose a lot of its shine with these movies but it's stupid not to continue building. It's a fun universe to explore.

The actual core fanbase for Star Wars has never been the less is more type. There are hundreds of novels, thousands of comics, thousands of toys, dozens of games, etc. Someone is buying all of that. Bobby Roberts posted a stat saying that The Force Awakening's third weekend was something like 60-70% repeated viewings. That level of dedication will carry the franchise for a long time. Fans might start going 1-2 times instead of 5, but they will still see the films.
 

Soapbox Killer

Grand Nagus
Yay for Marvel nay for starwars.

This is how I feel. I don't need Star Wars to be Call of Duty if that makes sense. We're getting a new movie every year for the next 5 years after that, lets take a break and see how thing go. Maybe by episode IX some fatigue will have set in and they may take a slower approach.


Marvel can go on forever.
 
Didn't expect anything else. So long as it is profitable they'll keep making them. I'm curious ihow they'll handle replacing Ironman.

I do think there is a thing as too much too often. They're going to burn themselves out like video game studios that annualize their franchises.
 

kiguel182

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I'm already tired of the MCU, too many movies to keep track off.

The Star Wars spin-offs continue to sound awful but hopefully they will wait until producing more main-line ones after the trilogy continues.
 

entremet

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Bubble ain't bursting.

It's been 16 years (I'm counting Spiderman 1/XMEN 1 as the renaissance beginning) already and Disney is diversifying beyond movies too.
 

Malreyn

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MCU is something they can milk forever and keep up the mediocre quality that they have so far and the fans will be happy. Star Wars is just a very different property, how many spin offs can they make. main series surely can't go on forever before completely jumping the shark again.

Depends on whether they go backwards or forwards in time...forward seems like they'll run out of creative ideas real fast, but going backwards they have a ton of EU they can draw inspiration from or even adapt loosely if they felt compelled to "canonize" any of it.
 

Slayven

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Didn't expect anything else. So long as it is profitable they'll keep making them. I'm curious ihow they'll handle replacing Ironman.

I do think there is a thing as too much too often. They're going to burn themselves out like video game studios that annualize their franchises.

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The Kree

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Did people seriously think that the MCU would just stop one day and that Marvel Studios would shut down?

It was wishful thinking.

We could also get movies for The Champions and Lady Liberators. Replace Angel with Falcon and Iceman with Blizzard.
 

Slayven

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It was wishful thinking.

We could also get movies for The Champions and Lady Liberators. Replace Angel with Falcon and Iceman with Blizzard.

Fox will counter with a Fallen Angels movie

Oh you don't know the Fallen Angels? They are the Force Works of mutant teams

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MattKeil

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Still waiting for that superhero bubble to burst.

You'll wait forever. Superheroes have been in film since the almost the very beginning, and there really aren't all that many superhero films released each year. Last year there were three. This year there are five. That's nothing compared to how many movies come out in a year. Fatigue will not set in until Marvel starts really dropping the ball on several movies in a row, which hasn't happened yet.

Hell, the mass audience generally liked Man of Steel, so clearly these movies don't have to particularly good to entertain people. I can't even imagine how badly Marvel or Warner Bros. would have to screw these things up multiple times in a row to actually stop audiences from coming back again.
 

Bloomers

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The nerds have won lol.
Can't wait for the inevitable Ultimate MCU

This news isn't surprising in the least, but it is a little weird to see spelled out like that. I guess I never truly considered the fact that my favorite heroes would outlive me on the big screen.
 

PopeReal

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You'll wait forever. Superheroes have been in film since the almost the very beginning, and there really aren't all that many superhero films released each year. Last year there were three. This year there are four. That's nothing compared to how many movies come out in a year. Fatigue will not set in until Marvel starts really dropping the ball on several movies in a row, which hasn't happened yet.

Hell, the mass audience generally liked Man of Steel, so clearly these movies don't have to particularly good to entertain people. I can't even imagine how badly Marvel or Warner Bros. would have to screw these things up multiple times in a row to actually stop audiences from coming back again.

Also we get super bombs like Fantastic Four and no one seems to care. People understand that there are going to be some bad with the good.
 
Ant Man was Iron Man 1 and Guardians was super meh. Can you remember any quotes from Guardians of the Galaxy?

I remember Rocket saying of Drax "Metaphors go right over his head" and Drax replying "NOTHING goes over my head, my reflexes are too quick!" Haha.

Also, "What do you want to do next... a little good? a little bad? a little bit of both?"

and the whole "Who?" "Star Lord, man! You know... Star Lord?"

and the "I see a bunch of losers" speech. And the flip off the camera with "aw jeez, sorry, I don't know how this machine works." and "Why would you want to save the galaxy" "because I'm one of the idiots who live there"?

Actually, GotG is like the most quotable movie in years.
 

Cagey

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Lol this thread already.

Oh the horror of movies being made that you get to choose whether to see or not.

It's a much larger issue than that.

http://grantland.com/features/2014-hollywood-blockbusters-franchises-box-office/

At this point, optimists usually say lighten up, because, after all, good movies always find a way to get through. But here’s the thing: They don’t. The evidence that good movies survive is the fact that every year brings good movies, which is a bit like saying that climate change is a hoax because it’s nice out today. Yes, good movies sprout up, inevitably, in the cracks and seams between the tectonic plates on which all of these franchises stay balanced, and we are reassured of their hardiness. But we don’t see what we don’t see; we don’t see the effort, or the cost of the effort, or the movies of which we’re deprived because of the cost of the effort. Paul Thomas Anderson’s Inherent Vice may have come from a studio, but it still required a substantial chunk of outside financing, and at $35 million, it’s not even that expensive. No studio could find the $8.5 million it cost Dan Gilroy to make Nightcrawler. Birdman cost a mere $18 million and still had to scrape that together at the last minute. Imagine American movie culture for the last few years without Her or Foxcatcher or American Hustle or The Master or Zero Dark Thirty and it suddenly looks markedly more frail — and those movies exist only because of the fairy godmothership of independent producer Megan Ellison. The grace of billionaires is not a great business model on which to hang the hopes of an art form.
 
What did people honestly expect to happen?

"Hey guys, this marvel thing prints us a boatload of money on a consistent basis. But I guess we should just drop it now."
 

Arkos

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How old is this? Isn't live action Cinderella and Age of Ultron already out?
 

Donos

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You'll wait forever. Superheroes have been in film since the almost the very beginning, and there really aren't all that many superhero films released each year. Last year there were three. This year there are five. That's nothing compared to how many movies come out in a year. Fatigue will not set in until Marvel starts really dropping the ball on several movies in a row, which hasn't happened yet.

Hell, the mass audience generally liked Man of Steel, so clearly these movies don't have to particularly good to entertain people. I can't even imagine how badly Marvel or Warner Bros. would have to screw these things up multiple times in a row to actually stop audiences from coming back again.

Yep, and they really would have to bring constant FF4 quality to burst the bubble.
 
Some of the responses here are perplexing. Did anyone honestly think Disney would just stop making Marvel and Star Wars stuff anytime in the foreseeable future?

"Oh no some people are tired of super hero movies, lets close up shop, it was fun while it lasted."

lol


Exactly. Business acumen isn't very high.
 
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