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Star Wars and the Marvel Cinematic Universe will 'go on forever', says Disney CEO

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I think it's been incredibly obvious that Disney has no idea how to manage Star Wars. The delays of both TFA and Episode VIII and the rebranding of "Star Wars Anthologies" to "A Star Wars Story" are proof enough. Fortunately it's only from the Disney side, whereas Lucasfilm seems to have more sense in general.
 
Let's pretend that cookie cutter action movies don't do gangbusters every year. "Superhero movie" is a nebulous imprecise term that's virtually lost any meaning.

Now? Sure, but who knows what the future holds. Mainstream interest can change dramatically.
 

CloudWolf

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They would have hated the 40s-50s with all the westerns, and the 30s with all the gangster movies. 60s with all the teen beach movies.

There is a difference though. Most of those movies weren't spin-offs or sequels to one another and the actual sequels would be paced over longer periods of time. Just think about it, in 2019 we will have had six Star Wars films in four years, while in the past we'd have three Star Wars films in six years. Hell, it took Disney four years to double the amount of Star Wars films (not counting the made for TV stuff). Don't you think that that's a bit much?
 

GAMEPROFF

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There is a difference though. Most of those movies weren't spin-offs or sequels to one another and the actual sequels would be paced over longer periods of time. Just think about it, in 2019 we will have had six Star Wars films in four years, while in the past we'd have three Star Wars films in six years. Don't you think that that's a bit much?
I dont care, as long as they are good.
 
I think it's been incredibly obvious that Disney has no idea how to manage Star Wars. The delays of both TFA and Episode VIII and the rebranding of "Star Wars Anthologies" to "A Star Wars Story" are proof enough. Fortunately it's only from the Disney side, whereas Lucasfilm seems to have more sense in general.

Really? You consider this mismanagement???
 

Slayven

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There is a difference though. Most of those movies weren't spin-offs or sequels to one another and the actual sequels would be paced over longer periods of time. Just think about it, in 2019 we will have had six Star Wars films in four years, while in the past we'd have three Star Wars films in six years.

Ok? You don't have to see them. What is it about their mere existence that offends folks?
 

Cagey

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Lol yeah ok. People will dictate what gets made by what they pay for.

I'm not a fan or believer in applying Milton Friedman free market value theories to art: reducing its value, and in this case, whether it should get made or not in the first place, to what it's worth in raw dollars and cents.

A hollowing out of the movie industry -- reducing it to big budget 'franchises', sequels/remakes, or 'art' movies made by the grace of wealthy benefactors -- isn't a good thing.
 

Slayven

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I'm not a fan or believer in applying Milton Friedman free market value theories to art: reducing its value, and in this case, whether it should get made or not in the first place, to what it's worth in raw dollars and cents.

A hollowing out of the movie industry
-- reducing it to big budget 'franchises', sequels/remakes, or 'art' movies made by the grace of wealthy benefactors -- isn't a good thing.

Do people not know the history of this industry, or have romanticized it to hell and back?
 

CloudWolf

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Ok? You don't have to see them. What is it about their mere existence that offends folks?

I'm not annoyed by the existence, but there's a difference between multiple companies releasing a lot of <insert film genre> within a specific decade and one company releasing a lot of films from within the same series in a similar span of time. I can easily see how people would think six Star Wars films in four years is too much, while six space films in four years wouldn't be. You can't really compare The Martian with Gravity, Interstellar or Star Wars. They're all space films, but they are all different enough that somebody can see them all and not tire of space films. Six Star Wars films will all kinda have the same feeling, even though one focuses on Jedi and the other focuses on young Han Solo.
 

SpaceWolf

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Looking forward to Disney getting their hands on the Harry Potter and Tolkien properties.

Albus Potter and the Wand of Truth:
(July, 2019)
The Silmarillion: Part One: (December, 2019)
Sirius Black: A Harry Potter Story: (March, 2020).
The Silmarillion: Part Two: The Final Chapter: (November, 2020).
Albus Potter and the Nightmare Child: (June, 2021)
Boromir and Faramir: A Middle Earth Story: (November, 2021).
Albus Potter and the Pettigrew Plot: Part One (August, 2022)
Woman on the Hogwarts Express Who Sells Sweets: A Harry Potter Story: (December, 2022)
The Simarillion: Part Three (February, 2023).
Albus Potter and the Pettigrew Plot: Part Two (March, 2023)
 
I'm not a fan or believer in applying Milton Friedman free market value theories to art: reducing its value, and in this case, whether it should get made or not in the first place, to what it's worth in raw dollars and cents.

A hollowing out of the movie industry -- reducing it to big budget 'franchises', sequels/remakes, or 'art' movies made by the grace of wealthy benefactors -- isn't a good thing.

Lol can I join you in the fantastical world of imagination and wonderment from which you hail?
 
Really? You consider this mismanagement???

This one part is not a big deal, but it does show a lack of planning. They made a big official announcement about the "Anthologies" series, only to then mention in passing some time later that they scrapped that name and came up with another.
 

Parch

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The end is not near. It's not like they'll eventually run out of superheroes because they don't need to use every B-tier hero. It's about the sequels. Movies made in the 70's still have successful sequels being made. No slowing down Rocky or James Bond. Star Trek keeps on trekking. Killing Marvel is going to be as hard as killing the Friday the 13th franchise.

There have been 28 Godzilla movies so the MCU can chase that record. You'll be taking your grandkids to Avengers 20 and loving it.
 

Pilgrimzero

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Looking forward to Disney getting their hands on the Harry Potter and Tolkien properties.

Albus Potter and the Wand of Truth:
(July, 2019)
The Silmarillion: Part One: (December, 2019)
Sirius Black: A Harry Potter Story: (March, 2020).
The Silmarillion: Part Two: The Final Chapter: (November, 2020).
Albus Potter and the Nightmare Child: (June, 2021)
Boromir and Faramir: A Middle Earth Story: (November, 2021).
Albus Potter and the Pettigrew Plot: Part One (August, 2022)
Woman on the Hogwarts Express Who Sells Sweets: A Harry Potter Story: (December, 2022)
The Simarillion: Part Three (February, 2023).
Albus Potter and the Pettigrew Plot: Part Two (March, 2023)

Don't tease. All of that would be so awesome.
 

GAMEPROFF

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Looking forward to Disney getting their hands on the Harry Potter and Tolkien properties.

Albus Potter and the Wand of Truth:
(July, 2019)
The Silmarillion: Part One: (December, 2019)
Sirius Black: A Harry Potter Story: (March, 2020).
The Silmarillion: Part Two: The Final Chapter: (November, 2020).
Albus Potter and the Nightmare Child: (June, 2021)
Boromir and Faramir: A Middle Earth Story: (November, 2021).
Albus Potter and the Pettigrew Plot: Part One (August, 2022)
Woman on the Hogwarts Express Who Sells Sweets: A Harry Potter Story: (December, 2022)
The Simarillion: Part Three (February, 2023).
Albus Potter and the Pettigrew Plot: Part Two (March, 2023)
You mean like Warner actually does right now with Harry Potter?
 

Malyse

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I hope I live long enough to see both franchise cross over.

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Croatoan

They/Them A-10 Warthog
MCU is something they can milk forever and keep up the mediocre quality that they have so far and the fans will be happy. Star Wars is just a very different property, how many spin offs can they make. main series surely can't go on forever before completely jumping the shark again.

He never said star wars is going on forever...

Thread title needs to be changed.
 
This one part is not a big deal, but it does show a lack of planning. They made a big official announcement about the "Anthologies" series, only to then mention in passing some time later that they scrapped that name and came up with another.
They are still calling the spin-off's the 'anthology series' at the moment though. The film's titles have changed.
 
Of course it will, As Adults we impress onto our kids our love for Star Wars/Marvel, the kids will fall in love with it and do it to their kids.
 

injurai

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The aymptotic behavior of those profits approach Zero, but I believe them.

Of course it will, As Adults we impress onto our kids our love for Star Wars/Marvel, the kids will fall in love with it and do it to their kids.

The new religion. I'm okay with this.
 

Phased

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Star Wars was great, Marvel keeps doing doing great stuff especially with their smaller stuff like Daredevil and Jessica Jones.

As long as the quality stays up, they deserve every bit of success they are currently getting. It may get stale at some point, but it isn't there yet.
 

xam3l

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I'm ok with that. As long the MCU take a break at some point during the next 15-20 years and then a rebooth the all thing.

On SW side, I honestly cant live without any new movies, this universe is for the ages, it's the most important universe in fiction of our age, its our alternate reality.

Keep all the movies coming as long they are good. I will watch them.
 

jufonuk

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I don't know how long people we want to keep seeing them?

Maybe this is a forever thing, maybe like the video game crash, they over saturate the market and the bubble bursts?

as for Star Wars I will watch it for as long as they keep making it, but maybe it will lose it's lustre?
 

Cagey

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Lol can I join you in the fantastical world of imagination and wonderment from which you hail?

What your post implies you read my post to mean, "money doesn't matter do it for the love of art!", is off-base.

Hollywood wasn't always as driven as it is today by needing to see a path to brand/franchise every new property, or strip-mining existing properties to produce cinematic brand/franchises. The mid-tier has disappeared and the low-budget movies that would nevertheless make money but not produce the potential for enormous returns (or eat enormous losses) are drying up.

The franchises, the "tent poles", aren't financing the lower budget movies, as was the old practice in Hollywood.

In 2014, franchises are not a big part of the movie business. They are not the biggest part of the movie business. They are the movie business. Period. Twelve of the year’s 14 highest grossers are, or will spawn, sequels. (The sole exceptions — assuming they remain exceptions, which is iffy — are Big Hero 6 and Maleficent.)

Almost everything else that comes out of Hollywood is either an accident, a penance (people who run the studios do like to have a reason to go to the Oscars), a modestly budgeted bone thrown to an audience perceived as niche (black people, women, adults), an appeasement (movie stars are still important and they must occasionally be placated with something interesting to do so they’ll be cooperative about doing the big stuff), or a necessity (sometimes, unfortunately, it is required that a studio take a chance on something new in order to initiate a franchise).

A successful franchise is no longer used to finance the rest of a studio’s lineup; a studio’s lineup is brands and franchises, and that’s it. Disney, of all the big companies, is the closest to approaching the absolute zero of this ideal — its movies are virtually all branded, whether Lucasfilm, Pixar, Marvel, or Walt Disney Studios — and anyone who doesn’t imagine that other studio CFOs are gazing at that model in envy and wonder is delusional. Disney is a kingdom of subkingdoms. Nothing minor or modest need apply.
 

Sparse

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"Grandpapa, is it true you were there for the first Marvel movie?"
"Yes, child."
"Why didn't anyone stop them?"
"We did not foresee the hell that had been created."
 
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