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Star Wars: The Old Republic [Early Access: December 13th] Thread 2

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gatti-man

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From what I gather the feature was simply removed because there aren't enough unique armors in the game and the color match system exposed the palette swaps. They are probably going to readd the same or improved system later down the line once more models are in the game. I don't see why they can't add the color match system now since it works and add an improved whenever it's ready. It's not like people can't see through palette swaps, these are old tricks that most gamers are used to.

That's exactly what I took from it and appreciated the frankness of the explanation.
 

Kem0sabe

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Teleport to instance and automated cross server group assembly™ destroyed what little was left of the WoW community (which wasn't that great to begin with).

If Bioware has to implement a LFG tool, then let it be a system thats only server based and isnt automated in any way.

That being said, lurking the instance entrance and spamming /1 is not "community" or "socializing", its just poor design.
 

Mulligan

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Is there anything about the core mechanics of the game that would be appealing to me that aren't pretty much the same as you're usual MMO? I really havn't been following the game at all but with the launch coming up soon and having quite a bit of spare time atm, i feel i could sink some time into an MMO.

I did a small bit of research and the whole story arc direction looks pretty cool but on face value it pretty much looks like World of Warcraft in a Star Wars universe which isn't what i'm after to be honest. Is there anything that could appeal to me gameplay wise baring in mind i'm not huge into the Star Wars lore etc. This is in no way a troll post as i am aware it could be easily conceived as one, i'm genuinely on the fence and what someone to push me over. :)
 
You don't need it for early access but bw has said there will be no grace period so you will need the product code for launch day and after.

Ah okay. Was wondering what the grace period talk was about. Thats really lame. Would I be better off canceling my amazon preorder and just getting the digital download?
 

Juice

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Man, I just successfully downsized my computer collection to two MacBook Airs (wife & I).

Now I really want to play swtor and I don't want to have to build a PC to do it.

I'd really love for OnLive to pick this title up somehow, even though the usage patterns for MMO's (e.g. people actually play them) would probably break the service's back.
 

Kem0sabe

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Is there anything about the core mechanics of the game that would be appealing to me that aren't pretty much the same as you're usual MMO? I really havn't been following the game at all but with the launch coming up soon and having quite a bit of spare time atm, i feel i could sink some time into an MMO.

I did a small bit of research and the whole story arc direction looks pretty cool but on face value it pretty much looks like World of Warcraft in a Star Wars universe which isn't what i'm after to be honest. Is there anything that could appeal to me gameplay wise baring in mind i'm not huge into the Star Wars lore etc. This is in no way a troll post as i am aware it could be easily conceived as one, i'm genuinely on the fence and what someone to push me over. :)

Theres nothing truly unique about TOR, as many people have claimed... its WoW with lightsabers, a simplistic description? yes, true? to an extent.

I say the main appeal is SW and the chance to continue the story that started with the KotOR games. Its voiced, its epic and bioware apparently was able to license and fit a full copy of rogue squadron in the game.
 

gatti-man

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Ah okay. Was wondering what the grace period talk was about. Thats really lame. Would I be better off canceling my amazon preorder and just getting the digital download?

It's up to you. My ce is getting release date delivery from amazon. You can check in your orders page when your delivery is expected. I'm not canceling for a half day wait. Plus I think ea/bw may cave and give a few days grace at the last minute anyways.


Is there anything about the core mechanics of the game that would be appealing to me that aren't pretty much the same as you're usual MMO? I really havn't been following the game at all but with the launch coming up soon and having quite a bit of spare time atm, i feel i could sink some time into an MMO.

I did a small bit of research and the whole story arc direction looks pretty cool but on face value it pretty much looks like World of Warcraft in a Star Wars universe which isn't what i'm after to be honest. Is there anything that could appeal to me gameplay wise baring in mind i'm not huge into the Star Wars lore etc. This is in no way a troll post as i am aware it could be easily conceived as one, i'm genuinely on the fence and what someone to push me over. :)

I'm tempted to say this isn't for you. What I really enjoy about swtor I'd the story content and choose your own adventure style of the instances. The bioware spin on the wow model really makes it fresh for me plus the animation that some describe as choppy really add to the combat for me. In wow people just stand there chopping at each other with very little to actually see besides aoe effects. Swtor tries to show realistic light saber duels and the combat just feels more visceral.
 

FINALBOSS

Banned
For beta people...is the main character story enough to get you to level 50? Or near it? Or is it like main story to level ~40 and the rest is filled with side-quests?
 

FINALBOSS

Banned
Man, I just successfully downsized my computer collection to two MacBook Airs (wife & I).

Now I really want to play swtor and I don't want to have to build a PC to do it.

I'd really love for OnLive to pick this title up somehow, even though the usage patterns for MMO's (e.g. people actually play them) would probably break the service's back.

Play it on your Mac in bootcamp dude...that's what I'm doing on my MBP.
 
It's up to you. My ce is getting release date delivery from amazon. You can check in your orders page when your delivery is expected. I'm not canceling for a half day wait. Plus I think ea/bw may cave and give a few days grace at the last minute anyways.


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Holy crap. Looks like it changed recently. Screw this. Digital purchase incoming.
 

pelican

Member
I have mine.

Our CE and Standard editions arrived at work today.

The CE is very nice, although the statue is slightly smaller than I imagined. Build quality is good.
 

RotBot

Member
Do they plan on having the Customer Service number back up before prelaunch? I've been locked out of my account for a week.
 

Cystm

Member
Amazon is fucking up all over the place on this one.

I had free release date shipping when I ordered the CE in early october, just went to check on it and now it shows that I have 1 day shipping for 4.99 with it arriving two days later than it would've with the release date shipping.

So I bitched them out and they removed the shipping fee, but "cannot give release date shipping on this item." Even though people still have release date shipping listed on their fucking orders.
 

gatti-man

Member
Amazon is fucking up all over the place on this one.

I had free release date shipping when I ordered the CE in early october, just went to check on it and now it shows that I have 1 day shipping for 4.99 with it arriving two days later than it would've with the release date shipping.

So I bitched them out and they removed the shipping fee, but "cannot give release date shipping on this item." Even though people still have release date shipping listed on their fucking orders.

Just checked mine and it's slated for the 20th by amazon. At this rate I won't keep it though. 350-400 is just crazy,it's just a game.
 

JWong

Banned
Not if the end result is the same. Take the inquisitor i gave as an example before.

The class gets its ship the same way, gets the same main quest, the outcome of the quest is the same through chapters 1, 2 and 3 of the story-line.

I admit there are some minor choices that can vary leading out to the conclusion of each story segment, but the segment is always a preset conclusion.

It´s not that im criticizing bioware´s approach, its not feasible to have a multiple "ending" mmo, but i would be even happier with them if they took a page out of blizzard´s phasing tech and added some much needed non linearity to the game world itself.

The way you're saying it, Witcher 1, Bethesda, Obsidian games doesn't have multiple storylines. Absolutely not true.

Theres nothing truly unique about TOR, as many people have claimed... its WoW with lightsabers, a simplistic description? yes, true? to an extent.

I say the main appeal is SW and the chance to continue the story that started with the KotOR games. Its voiced, its epic and bioware apparently was able to license and fit a full copy of rogue squadron in the game.

If you don't see the features TOR has over WoW, then get out of this thread, play the game, then come back. Story, companions (my biggest feature), new mana resource systems, there are a number of things that can separate it from WoW.
 

Thoraxes

Member
Yeah, maybe. Here's my normal order. I wonder if it's Amazon's holiday congestion or Bioware trying to get people to buy Origin? Seems that after a certain date people no longer get release day delivery.

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Juice

Member
Isnt the MacBook air an extremely weaksauce computer? I don't think it could run swtor.

The MBA's Core i5 isn't bad, the SSD is super fast, 4GB of RAM ought to be enough.

But it'd take half of my disk to install Windows 7, and I don't have that to spare. And the Intel integrated graphics are actually worse than the nvidia 9400M from last year.
 

gatti-man

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The MBA's Core i5 isn't bad, the SSD is super fast, 4GB of RAM ought to be enough.

But it'd take half of my disk to install Windows 7, and I don't have that to spare. And the Intel integrated graphics are actually worse than the nvidia 9400M from last year.

Ah ok then. Mmo gaming on a laptop can be good especially on pve content.
 

Jira

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Site is down. Can you give me the gist of it?


The gist is they said they didn't want to keep it in and change it post-launch as to not confuse the playerbase. Bunch of crap if you ask me and anyone confused by a feature change is going to be in a constant state of confusion post-launch.
 
For beta people...is the main character story enough to get you to level 50? Or near it? Or is it like main story to level ~40 and the rest is filled with side-quests?

Out of the two class questlines I completed during beta I finished one at level 48 and one at level 50. You can probably reach the final class quest around level 46 if you ignore flashpoints and PvP.
 

isny

napkin dispenser
You can't really do only character story quest. You always have to do side quests. Story quests make about 15% of the whole package it seems.

Definitely not 15%, more like 5-10% max. Such a minimal amount of your quests will be anything besides grind. It's an MMO =/
 

JWong

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Definitely not 15%, more like 5-10% max. Such a minimal amount of your quests will be anything besides grind. It's an MMO =/

You mean it's an RPG. The same logic can be applied to Skyrim.

- Attack X amount of times to level one handed.
- Go to a dungeon and kill X number of people to clear it.
- Heck it even has "fetch 8 of each herb and shit for me."

If you skip a majority of the bonus quests, it's not bad at all.

Edit: Ah wait, you don't mean bonus quest. The side quests are not bad at all since they're along the way.
 

Rflagg

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For beta people...is the main character story enough to get you to level 50? Or near it? Or is it like main story to level ~40 and the rest is filled with side-quests?
No and yes
Well if you purposely try to avoid all others quests then you will be very under leveled, even as fast as the second planet. The side quests are located in the same planet close the same area of your story stuff so really I can't think of a reason to skip them. Also many of the side quest have really enjoyable stories. If you do the side stuff on the planets of your main quest then you will reach 50 easy if not, you are going to be having a hard time. I think one could fill the gap with pvp and space missions if they were dead set against side quests.

The only issue I can see with the (most)side quests are many of them are going to be done by all classes so if you were to do multiple toons then you will likely want to use space bar heavily.
 

Sent

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For beta people...is the main character story enough to get you to level 50? Or near it? Or is it like main story to level ~40 and the rest is filled with side-quests?

Well the thing is the side quests still have a "story" and dialog and you still make choices contained to just those so I find it entertaining.
 

Sanic

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Might be kind of a weird questions, but is this less 'mmo-like' than other games in the genre?

I really don't know anything about the game, but EA's marketing has lead me to believe that the game is a more story driven, almost single player RPG kind of experience. Is this the case? I don't really enjoy MMOs, mainly due to the horribly dull storytelling and quests, but this has caught my eye.
 
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