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Star Wars: The Old Republic [Early Access: December 13th] Thread 2
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I really don't understand what the grace period thing is.
Early access starts on the 13th right? and the game comes out on the 20th? so the "grace period" that everyone is referring to is the time between when early access ends and when the game officially launches? which can be counted in hours? I guess...
did I get it right?
Early access starts on the 13th right? and the game comes out on the 20th? so the "grace period" that everyone is referring to is the time between when early access ends and when the game officially launches? which can be counted in hours? I guess...
did I get it right?
Is this like the rumor that the engine doesn't actually support AA?
right but some people are upset about this because their retail copies might not make it on release date.
Wait what? That's me... I pre-ordered online from Amazon. I am pre-downloading the client (all 30 gb!!!!) so I can play in the early access. Are you telling me that when early access ends, I'm going to have to wait for the disc in the mail and then reinstall the game... and probably fucking download updates?
I am upset.
Edit: For clarification, I don't care about waiting... but if I have to reinstall after sitting through literally a 36 hour download... then that is just ridiculous.
What? No. You don't have to reinstall. You just won't be able to play once early access ends until you have your code from the order.
BrokenEchelon
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No. You won't have to reinstall anything.
The EGA client is the full retail/launch client.
Once EGA ends on December 19th, you won't be able to login until you enter your actual retail code which will be in your physical copy of the game, which probably won't arrive on Dec. 20th.
You wont need to download the game again, but once early access ends, you will need to enter your game key before you can play.
I've been chasing that dragon, but I can't seem to catch it no matter how much I shoot!
Goodacre0081
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im not sure about redownloading the entire client because all we really need from our physical copies is the cd-key. I bet we wont even have to use our discs.
Being so close to the christmas mail rush and the fact that most MMO's have a grace period to balance this type of thing out is why people are not happy with the situation.
I honestly hope no grace period continues to be the only thing people have to bitch about in the next week.
I wont be too surprised if there are log in problems, server crashes, accounts locked out, and people that entered their early access codes not getting e-mails until late in the week.
Hopefully any emergency maintenance that happens will be short.
I wont be too surprised if there are log in problems, server crashes, accounts locked out, and people that entered their early access codes not getting e-mails until late in the week.
Hopefully any emergency maintenance that happens will be short.
Big Papa Husker
Member
I'm trying to decide whether to get it or not. I played the beta for a day and thought it was pretty fun. I liked WoW, but got really burned out in Cataclysm so I am afraid the same thing will happen with this, even though it is a different game, but similar. WHAT TO DO?! 
I'm trying to decide whether to get it or not. I played the beta for a day and thought it was pretty fun. I liked WoW, but got really burned out in Cataclysm so I am afraid the same thing will happen with this, even though it is a different game, but similar. WHAT TO DO?!
I have the same feeling. I really don't know if I should bite the bullet and just try it. What I played of the beta was pretty tame but I was really disappointed in the quests and the voice acting.
Bleh.
BrokenEchelon
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Not to mention that they flat out lied.
They originally told us specifically that there would be a grace period, and many of us (including myself) pre-ordered from Amazon and other retailers because we knew that we could have the game delivered to our doorstep, without missing a second of playtime thanks to the grace period.
Now this is completely wrong. For myself, I get to deal with finals week this week, and won't be able to play much if at all during the EGA, and then I'll be rewarded next week by having to wait another week for a game that I have been supporting for years now.
That's why people are pissed off, not because of some sort of entitlement issues, because you are entitled to enjoying a product you are paying for, supporting, and were explicitly given information about when you made your original pledge of purchase via pre-order.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Some people are concerned that they will not get their copy when they expected it from shipping screwups due to the holidays, weather, etc. Some people already noticed their preorders on Amazon no longer guarantee release day shipment.
Big Papa Husker
Member
Yeah. The big reason behind preordering it is because I missed out on vanilla wow and didn't subscribe until 6 months after it came out. By then all my friends were 60 and while it was fun, I missed out on stuff that they still bring up every now and then. ;\
RaySpencer
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forgot how small raid groups were. Had decided to go with bodyguard but it is the only healer without a battle rez which could be a huge deal when picking your roster
going with flipping a coin
head - Sith Sorc
tails - Bodyguard
only scientific way to handle this
Bodyguard doesnt exist, so its an easy pick!
HarryDemeanor
Member
Whatever you prefer. One isn't better than the other.
Giolon
Member
What, you don't like Mercenary?
maabus1999
Member
Why don't you post a source for the rumor? Hate it when people just spout out anything that is rumor related as they may just be bsing or trolling.
Not wanting to play Bounty Hunter...no real reason though just cause. I'm leaning towards Operative at this point because of how much better their story is.
RaySpencer
Member
Id go Op, then you get the best ship, awesome story, and later can switch to Sniper.
Giolon
Member
If by switch you mean re-rolling, b/c there's no AC changing coming any time soon. I'd like you to Georg's forum post, but well that's all been nuked.
Personally, I liked the BH story the best, but to each their own. Keep in mind that if you plan on playing Sniper later, you'll be playing the same story again, though you can always choose different dialogue options.
Goodacre0081
Member
Yeah they did lie and went back on their word. we're going to remember this snafu next time they make a promise. Although it seems like they're trying to remedy the situation with notifying retailers to send out our orders asap.
hopefully the launch goes smoothly and everyone get their hard copies before the holiday sets in.
Getting the ce early would just please me to no end.
I'll probably end up going Sniper in the end since I loved it in beta, just so use to always healing in MMOs.
RaySpencer
Member
I know its not in now, and I doubt it will be in for a while as well. But at least there is a possibility to switch from Op to Sniper, where as its impossible to switch from Sorc to Sniper
It's really a question of play style, utility, and resource management. Sorcs have more direct healing, play like a more traditional mana-based caster than the Operative. If you're more concerned about PvP than PvE, I would consider carefully; as things stand the Sorc is definitely going to be more capable of healing against burst than the Operative. It's simply an advantage of the nature of their Force resource not being gated into a curve. The Operative does have a number of tools to fight against that, but they're mostly cooldown related and they will expire themselves much more quickly. On the other hand, the Operative has stealth (always a nice PvP advantage, especially on a healer) including a form of group stealth, excellent sustained healing, and quite a bit of instant cast healing for doing it on the move for PvP.
Given the nature of MMO balance, things will evolve quickly, especially around launch. We know that they have some target goals, though, and that they want an equal representation of all three healers - that is, there really isn't any "hybrid" status in this game, you need to spec to fulfill a primary role no matter what class you're playing. Your best bet is to trust your instinct as to which style of play appeals to you more.
If it's still a tough choice after that, well... welcome to my world.
Yeah i get the feeling im going to have a crap ton of alts in this game.
I'm getting every character to 50. Eventually. I guess I'll just play all of them on the NA GAF server.
Does anybody know if servers are going to be broken down by time zone? And is there a list of them anywhere yet?
I really need a West Coast server, even though I'm in the central time zone. The bulk of my play time is going to be early morning, and at night after my kids go to bed at 9pm CST, which is 7pm PST.
I made a mistake in WoW on server choices because I played in my own time zone and I was never really able to raid because I can't give my undivided attention to the game until the kids are out for the night. Most raiding usually starts around 7pm sever time, so if I can find a west coast server, that would be 9pm my time, which would be perfect.
I really need a West Coast server, even though I'm in the central time zone. The bulk of my play time is going to be early morning, and at night after my kids go to bed at 9pm CST, which is 7pm PST.
I made a mistake in WoW on server choices because I played in my own time zone and I was never really able to raid because I can't give my undivided attention to the game until the kids are out for the night. Most raiding usually starts around 7pm sever time, so if I can find a west coast server, that would be 9pm my time, which would be perfect.
Giolon
Member
I know they're planning on having West Coast and East Coast servers. I don't think there are going to be any in between.
They have yet to be listed. As far as I remember, the servers do indeed tell you which timezone they're in.
Man you summed it up perfect for me Wallach. Sorc sounds more my style. I honestly think that was my biggest problem I had in Rift is I decided to do something different and go warrior and just wasn't feeling it...
You playing empire pve btw?
I will likely be playing Republic PvE, though I don't think I'll be rolling with GAF since they went US East and I'm on the WC.
Goodacre0081
Member
no list yet but im pretty sure both NA gaf guilds are on eastcoast servers. maybe we'll get a fourth guild going that is west coast based.
Can we just pick a west coast server just for the hell of it?
All best coast gaffers can roll on it even if there is no guild.
Angelus Errare
Banned
West coast is beast coast, but I'm on East coast, the Beast Coast.
I hope you all are rollin Empire.
I hope you all are rollin Empire.
Stupid question about servers that I always wondered.
With WestCoast/EC servers, are they purely just the different time zones. What I mean to ask is, if I live in the West Coast, will I get better latency playing on those servers, will my experience be detrimental playing on EC servers, or is just purely, you know, most of the players on that server will be in my relative time zone.
With WestCoast/EC servers, are they purely just the different time zones. What I mean to ask is, if I live in the West Coast, will I get better latency playing on those servers, will my experience be detrimental playing on EC servers, or is just purely, you know, most of the players on that server will be in my relative time zone.
I'm not sure where their server clusters are. For the most part though they usually do not sync the server time to the physical location or anything like that, so you should only bet on the organizational/social aspect of it when choosing.
Goodacre0081
Member
for sure, I'll prolly have a few different characters anyway.
apart from the obvious time difference is latency really a problem for MMOs when playing across NA? I've only played on PST wow servers so im not sure what to expect playing on an east cost server.
edit: wow, beaten by wedge. lol
Hawk269
Member
Correct. Not that it is 100% relevant, but Best Buy F'd up my pre-order for Skyrim for the PC. I ordered the collectors edition and they said "something" happened and I would not get it for a week or so later.
The issue that many people are having are ones that ordered on-line and some on-line places are not doing day-release shipping. So these people would be locked out until they get the game and enter the code.
I dont think having a 3-day grace period would be that big of a deal, but i guess there is a reason for them doing this. Other games have had a grace period, most recently RIFT and it was no issue.
Yes they do. MMOs since WoW have done it.
WoW doesn't do this. WoW has 4 data centers (NY, Chicago, Phoenix, LA) and all four of them host servers across all US time zones.
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