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[Morn]

I'll take instancing over server queues, but they need to lose the cooldown.

But you have BOTH now.

 

[Giolon]

LOTRO has instancing and its far from crappy. Well, it was before F2P.

They looked more human long before SWTOR.

Yep, prior to the special editions, we only had two film appearances of Twi'leks: Bib Fortuna and Oola. Oola always looked pretty great for a green topless babe w/ head tentacles. I never assumed then b/c Bib Fortuna was am ugly mofo that all male Twi'leks looked that way.

Years later we got the Special Editions and they added Lyn Me, another good looking lady Twi'lek. And then there's the abomination that is Orn Free Ta. Four lekku? Are you kidding me. Throw that Jabba lookalike in the garbage.

All the while, good looking male Twi'leks had been showing up in the EU, particularly the comics and in SWG.

 

[bloodforge]

I just want playable Togruta.

 

[Giolon]

I just want playable Togruta.

As do I. Really badly.

 

[razgriz417]

Had a blast this past weekend playing on my Sith Sorc. Got her up to 19 before the maintenance. Getting the hang of being the dedicated healer in groups. I wish there was a way to mark targets tho. Still undecided about whether or not I should get the Collector's Edition. Is there any details as to what the Unique Collector's Shop entails? $150 is pretty steep if its just cosmetic items :/

 

[IllumiNate]

Kinda think this will be my GOTY

 

[K.Sabot]

Kinda think this will be my GOTY

It's probably not physically possible to be considered GOTY 2011. It releases late December and it's an MMO.

 

[Gritesh]

Got my consular up to 10 and went Jedi shadow didn't realize that it was a stealth class I wanted a range dps dammit

 

[Jira]

I played wow since launch. And I remember what it was like. There's no reason a game coming out next month shouldn't have a similar feature to what's been in wow for probably about 2 years now.

Bioware has stated that they actually want to build server community, not have you stand around and hit a button to go into an instance and not communicate. I know this might sound odd, but it IS an MMO after all.

 

[LAUGHTREY]

Bioware has stated that they actually want to build server community, not have you stand around and hit a button to go into an instance and not communicate. I know this might sound odd, but it IS an MMO after all.

It's a good idea to not put it and see how it goes, instead of putting something in and then taking it out.

 

[Vinci]

Been playing in the Beta over this weekend. Personally, I'm still pretty neutral about this game. Nothing about it really held my attention. It's competently made, the voice acting is nice, but nothing really stood out or made me want to devote huge amounts of time to it.

Oh well.

 

[HarryDemeanor]

Is there any details as to what the Unique Collector's Shop entails? $150 is pretty steep if its just cosmetic items :/

We've pretty much been told that they're basically the same items you would find in the game stat-wise but with a different look. So expect weapons, armor, and perhaps other stuff.

 

[syko de4d]

i hope we will never see cross Server LFG Tools.
LFG Tools only for your Server is okay but cross-server is the worst.

 

[Alex]

I like this Chiss race, but I wish they could be the Inquisitor class. I don't know shit about Star Wars or any of it's lore or what have you, though.

 

[Trouble]

But you have BOTH now.

This is a stress test. I'm hopeful the point of this is to avoid queues at launch.

 

[CoilShot]

Why can't I have a trandoshan bounty hunter? I mean its in the movie after all

 

[razgriz417]

We've pretty much been told that they're basically the same items you would find in the game stat-wise but with a different look. So expect weapons, armor, and perhaps other stuff.

Thanks, if that's the case, I may just cancel it and stick with a standard edition. Better off saving the extra $90 for game time

 

[Anoregon]

I like this Chiss race, but I wish they could be the Inquisitor class. I don't know shit about Star Wars or any of it's lore or what have you, though.

The Inquisitor story casts you as a slave that was discovered to be force sensitive. As Chiss are actually an ally of the Sith Empire and not a planet that was conquered/subverted, Chiss slaves are probably ultra rare/don't really exist.

I agree though, It's too bad you can't be Chiss with either force/lightsaber class.

 

[Emitan]

Why can't I have a trandoshan bounty hunter? I mean its in the movie after all

Because Trandoshans are dumb. That's why.

 

[Trouble]

Because Trandoshans are dumb. That's why.

Inquisitor storyline confirms this.

 

[Windu]

Why can't I have a trandoshan bounty hunter? I mean its in the movie after all

yeah they need more species. I used to play a rodian and my brother played a trandoshan in SWG. Also, SWG's character creation kicks the ass of this one, and the cantina in this game are boring, and you can't even sit down in chairs. /booo

edit: they basically need more aliens that don't look human.

 

[Emitan]

Inquisitor storyline confirms this.

Whenever I think of Trandoshans I think of those stupid Bangaa bounty hunters after Balthier in FFXII.

 

[JWong]

It's a good idea to not put it and see how it goes, instead of putting something in and then taking it out.

LFG is a great tool, but the community design is also cool.

I think the best alternative is just a free warp into some community hub rather than some chat interface.

 

[Anoregon]

The stated reason for not having playable wookies/trandoshans/rodians etc was story constraints. They wanted all playable characters to speak basic and be humanish enough to make romances not be psuedo-bestiality creepy factor. It's a sacrifice to be sure, and one that a lot of people would probably not have made, since lots of folks don't really care about romance/story in general.

Wookiee growls and trandoshan hissing for 50 levels would be pretty horrendous, though. I'll give them that.

 

[Windu]

The stated reason for not having playable wookies/trandoshans/rodians etc was story constraints. They wanted all playable characters to speak basic and be humanish enough to make romances not be psuedo-bestiality creepy factor. It's a sacrifice to be sure, and one that a lot of people would probably not have made, since lots of folks don't really care about romance/story in general.

Wookiee growls and trandoshan hissing for 50 levels would be pretty horrendous, though. I'll give them that.

meh, in SWG (of course it wasn't voice acted) you could switch between your native language and basic. I don't see why they couldn't have the option to do that.

 

[CoilShot]

yeah they need more species. I used to play a rodian and my brother played a trandoshan in SWG. Also, SWG's character creation kicks the ass of this one, and the cantina in this game are boring, and you can't even sit down in chairs. /booo

edit: they basically need more aliens that don't look human.

This.

 

[razgriz417]

The stated reason for not having playable wookies/trandoshans/rodians etc was story constraints. They wanted all playable characters to speak basic and be humanish enough to make romances not be psuedo-bestiality creepy factor. It's a sacrifice to be sure, and one that a lot of people would probably not have made, since lots of folks don't really care about romance/story in general.

Wookiee growls and trandoshan hissing for 50 levels would be pretty horrendous, though. I'll give them that.

This seems plausible. I'm playing Inquisitor and had my companion for 10 levels now and the random noises he makes is already grating. He is an amazing tank though

 

[Woorloog]

This.

Won't happen. We'll get some shit about being "unrelatable", "can't show enough emotion" (what fucking emotion? Still haven't seen facial animation i could emphatize with (ie not realistic enough)), "too hard to make them", "too time-intensive project" or some other shit.

 

[Windu]

servers are back up btw

 

[Anoregon]

servers are back up btw

All but the one I actually play on. Huff.

 

[Vigilant Walrus]

I'm gonna wish him good luck with that I think even playing one character (just doing the bare storyline quests needed to reach the level cap and end) takes a whole lot more than a month. Unless he can tackle 200 hours in a month.

Once the majority have a level 50 character, (1-2 months after launch) do you think there will be stable end game?


How long lifespan can there be in 3 warzones and an Raid?




I'm really hoping the world pvp on Ilum will be it's own meta game, but the lack of news surrounding it, makes me wonder if it will be one of those things that will get deserted and wont make a difference unlike DAOC and Planetside did with their World PvP!


Blizz tried in WoW, but it never really worked. People just didn't bother to fight over world objectives. The hunt for points in a battleground was more convenient!

 

[Woorloog]

Blizz tried in WoW, but it never really worked. People just didn't bother to fight over world objectives. The hunt for points in a battleground was more convenient!

Blizzard didn't even try really. The moment battlegrounds were implemented, all world PVP was killed. There was no incentive to do outdoor PVP objectives. And any added incentive wasn't good enough and they didn't bother making them better as BGs were so popular.

I hope TOR won't get Raid based end-game. The main reason being they're bad for story stuff, which BW claims is important in SWTOR. So, flashpoints with story content should be given priority, IMO. Also more PVP stuff always. Proper space combat with PVP options.

 

[rukland]

How long lifespan can there be in 3 warzones and an Raid?

You do know they already talked about a 2nd raid. And that all flashpoints will have a "hard" mode for level 50 right?

 

[Miletius]

It's been a fun weekend. The richness of exploring a new world really came out to me, and it's got enough polish that it's not going to feel like taking 3 steps back to get something new.

The mechanics of the Agent are pretty damn fun too.

 

[IllumiNate]

It's probably not physically possible to be considered GOTY 2011. It releases late December and it's an MMO.

My GOTY

 

[Freyjadour]

The stated reason for not having playable wookies/trandoshans/rodians etc was story constraints. They wanted all playable characters to speak basic and be humanish enough to make romances not be psuedo-bestiality creepy factor. It's a sacrifice to be sure, and one that a lot of people would probably not have made, since lots of folks don't really care about romance/story in general.

Wookiee growls and trandoshan hissing for 50 levels would be pretty horrendous, though. I'll give them that.

Yep. Count me in the not giving a shit about romances group. Give me more exotic races and less re-colored humans.

 

[Morn]

Yep. Count me in the not giving a shit about romances group. Give me more exotic races and less re-colored humans.

SWG had such an awesome selection of races: Human, Twi'lek, Zabrak, Wookiee, Trandoshan, Rodian, Mon Calamari, Bothan, Sullustan, or Ithorian.

Bothan Smugglers would be awesome in TOR.

 

[The_Inquisitor]

So republic gaf, are we getting a voicechat thing like mumble or vent? It's crazy, but we are almost 1 month away from early access launch.

 

[Emitan]

SWG had such an awesome selection of races: Human, Twi'lek, Zabrak, Wookiee, Trandoshan, Rodian, Mon Calamari, Bothan, Sullustan, or Ithorian.

Bothan Smugglers would be awesome in TOR.

Wraith Squadron had a Human/Bothan romance! Why can't SWTOR?

Spoiler

I get Vette so I don't care about any other romance

So republic gaf, are we getting a voicechat thing like mumble or vent? It's crazy, but we are almost 1 month away from early access launch.

I guess that's a thing that guilds use. That way we can scream at each other for screwing up and create guild drama!

 

[IllumiNate]

I would like to know the deal with Swotor Gaf choosing PvE servers over PvP? are the guild leaders carebears afraid of being ganked? or is there some other reason.

 

[Emitan]

I would like to know the deal with Swotor Gaf choosing PvE servers over PvP? are the guild leaders carebears afraid of being ganked? or is there some other reason.

The reason was because there's an entire PvP planet along with PvP areas on late game planets so people who want PvP can have it while people who don't want it can just avoid those areas. Me and CzarTim have been playing on a PvP server in the beta. I personally have no preference either way.

 

[Lilsnubby]

So happy Bioware decided to NOT put a LFG button in. The LFG tool basically killed almost all non-guild interaction in WoW. I like just asking to get a group and seeing how it comes together. Some people are jerks but most are pretty cool. There's something about the automated groups that just takes the life out of it. It's pretty much the point of playing an MMO as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Emitan]

So happy Bioware decided to NOT put a LFG button in. The LFG tool basically killed almost all non-guild interaction in WoW. I like just asking to get a group and seeing how it comes together. Some people are jerks but most are pretty cool. There's something about the automated groups that just takes the life out of it. It's pretty much the point of playing an MMO as far as I'm concerned.

Agreed. All the random pick up groups I've been in have been great. Everyone has been working together and if we wipe on a boss we sit back and plan our strategy. It's been a very fun experience.

 

[JWong]

Blizzard didn't even try really. The moment battlegrounds were implemented, all world PVP was killed. There was no incentive to do outdoor PVP objectives. And any added incentive wasn't good enough and they didn't bother making them better as BGs were so popular.

I hope TOR won't get Raid based end-game. The main reason being they're bad for story stuff, which BW claims is important in SWTOR. So, flashpoints with story content should be given priority, IMO. Also more PVP stuff always. Proper space combat with PVP options.

Ermmm don't they already have raids?

They showed off that Empire side one.

 

[Emitan]

Ermmm don't they already have raids?

They showed off that Empire side one.

Yes, there's currently one raid.

 

[CzarTim]

I would like to know the deal with Swotor Gaf choosing PvE servers over PvP? are the guild leaders carebears afraid of being ganked? or is there some other reason.

More people wanted PVE. With the way PVP is handled in the game, it doen't really matter. I plan on flagging myself.

 

[AlimNassor]

I like this Chiss race, but I wish they could be the Inquisitor class. I don't know shit about Star Wars or any of it's lore or what have you, though.

If you like them might I recommend The Thrawn Trilogy SW novels? The villain is a Chiss Grand Admiral in The Empire.

Anyways, how/why are Chiss in this game? I thought they were very xenophobic and rarely if ever left their system.

 

[IllumiNate]

I will always be a dedicated fan of the KOTOR era, but I will not be as happy if there is systems in place like Warhammer Online where I am turned into a chicken for returning to an older area, or am not able to combat any member of the opposing faction. I just don't want to see a Sith, or Jedi dance in front of me while I cannot even engage him, because someone may think it's unfair. That's not Starwars. It doesn't make sense.

Luke didn't get to stay non-flagged when he ran into Darth Vader when he ran into him on Bespin. That would of been a boring movie.

This was posted in the Bioware forums lol, and yea I think the members of Neogaf guild should vote on which server theyd prefer to play on PvP or PvE

 

[CzarTim]

This was posted in the Bioware forums lol, and yea I think the members of Neogaf guild should vote on which server theyd prefer to play on PvP or PvE

We have. Check the the guild forums. Most people want PVE.

 

[IllumiNate]

But wouldnt you guys want to be on the serious progression server where the high end guilds are so we can proove our worth amongst the greats?