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Star Wars: The Old Republic [Releasing Date: Dec 20 NA/EU - NDA Lifted]
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The_Inquisitor
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Oh I was serious about doing end game, lol. It may be only 2-3 hours sunday through thursday, but is that not serious enough for most nights?
I know I won't be on some nights, but for the majority I will.
I know I won't be on some nights, but for the majority I will.
The_Inquisitor
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Hmmm... Do I play star wars till midnight, or do I work on finishing Batman?
BTW bounty hunter is amazing. I'm getting worried I am going to want to switch to trooper at launch...
BTW bounty hunter is amazing. I'm getting worried I am going to want to switch to trooper at launch...
The_Inquisitor
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My opinion has continued to improve of this game the past few months as I have seen newer and newer builds.
I think this may finally be the one to give WoW a run on its money
I think this may finally be the one to give WoW a run on its money
Door2Dawn said:
Pandas was clearly a strategic choice.
That said, WoW is long in the tooth. And if endgame SWTOR is good, they'll have a very healthy population.
I wouldn't say "give WoW a run for it's money" or "WoW killer" or anything like that, but it will, based on my experiences with the game, do well for itself.
LowParry
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Door2Dawn said:
I've probably read more negative than positive on that expansion. It's still going to sell very well but I think a lot of the user base is ready for something new and fresh (or on the other hand, want their free Diablo 3). The bigger question stands, how many will go back to Mists after SW:ToR. Or the other big factor is if GW2 releases before Mist.
The_Inquisitor
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Door2Dawn said:
I don't know about that. Anectdotal evidence here, but most of my friends who quit have said Pandas won't be enough to bring them back.
I'm not talking go play Warhammer, and come back for Wrath quit, but I mean genuinely done with WoW quit.
Judging by the general channel chat and my friends impressions of the beta, I think this game is going to do extremely well.
BattleMonkey
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The_Inquisitor said:
They still have ton of players in WoW, it's not going to sink to any other game any time soon.
TOR just has to do well to secure it's own fanbase that will keep it afloat.
The_Inquisitor
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Oh I am not saying WoW is going to fold overnight or anything. I'm just saying besides new launch growth, I think you're going to see new subs moving over to TOR instead of WoW. There won't be enough new subs to stem the bleeding of those leaving.
Freyjadour
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Smuggler or BH?
Gritesh said:
I think the storylines in SWTOR are really going to hook in a lot of people. For them its not going to be the destination, its going to be the journey.
Freyjadour said:
BH personally. Do you prefer a walking tank with every weapon under the sun blowing shit up, or do you prefer a guy who hides behind rocks, busting caps in people and kicking folks in the nads?
Well, I have just finished up for the weekend and wanted to write up my impressions. I am a long time WoW player and a main tank for a 5/7 heroic progression guild. I leveled a Jedi Knight up to level 15. I Spec'd as a tank once I was able to choose my advanced class and start picking talents. I did 1 flashpoint (4 man dungeon) and a couple of heroic quests (mini-dungeons that take 2 - 4 people). I also did 3 rounds of PVP, but ended up in the same war zone each time. I figured I would do more flashpoints and PVP, but the story was compelling enough to keep me leveling.
Overall Feel: The game feels remarkably smooth (especially for a beta). The combat is very fluid and as I started to get more abilities I was using 5 or 6 different abilities on each fight. I ran into remarkably few bugs, and even if they shipped today it would be better shape than other MMOs have been at launch. The UI needs a bit of work as it can be tough to figure out what everything does. It is not nearly customizable enough and I really missed threat indicators when I was trying to tank. Hopefully mods come shortly after lunch. Overall though it feels very similar to WoW, especially late TBC WoW.
Leveling: This is where TOR blows away WoW. I did not even care about any of the Republic stories going into the beta, but I really got into the JK story. Having all of the voice acting makes questing and leveling so much more compelling than just reading the quests and clicking accept. Also having light side and dark side choices makes you feel like you have some ownership of your character and the story around you. If you like Mass Effect for its story, you will like The Old Republic. You could play this as a solo game from beginning to end and it would be worth the money... and there are 8 separate stories. I could absolutely see myself leveling every class to max level on both Empire and Republic.
Flashpoints and Heroic Quests: The flashpoint I did was really fun for a low level dungeon. However, I was supposed to be tanking and at level 10 they had not given me a taunt or a threat presence (I got threat presence at 14, I think a taunt comes at 16). Having the story and being able to make choices in the Flashpoints really makes them compelling in a way that WoW never was (since I never really went to outside sources to get the lore in Wow), but WoW is much better about the order it gives you your skills post 3.0. In my opinion as soon as you pick your Advanced Class as a tank, you should get a +threat stance and a taunt. The final Heroic Quest I did was genuinely hard, requiring CCs and line of sighting on certain pulls. My group of 4 was not able to finish the quest as it was either overtuned on beta, or our healer was terrible. I am not sure how much healers should be able to handle at level 14. So I liked the group content, but I did not love it at least at levels 10 - 15.
PVP: Feels exactly like low level WoW PVP so far to me. I liked what little of it I did.
This is easily the best non WoW MMO that I have tried. If the raid content is there, I will most likely be switching. The idea of leveling 85 - 90 (or 1 - 90 on a Monk) without voice acting and a compelling story just sounds painful after getting some time with The Old Republic. Hopefully the endgame is as impressive as levels 1 - 15 were.
Overall Feel: The game feels remarkably smooth (especially for a beta). The combat is very fluid and as I started to get more abilities I was using 5 or 6 different abilities on each fight. I ran into remarkably few bugs, and even if they shipped today it would be better shape than other MMOs have been at launch. The UI needs a bit of work as it can be tough to figure out what everything does. It is not nearly customizable enough and I really missed threat indicators when I was trying to tank. Hopefully mods come shortly after lunch. Overall though it feels very similar to WoW, especially late TBC WoW.
Leveling: This is where TOR blows away WoW. I did not even care about any of the Republic stories going into the beta, but I really got into the JK story. Having all of the voice acting makes questing and leveling so much more compelling than just reading the quests and clicking accept. Also having light side and dark side choices makes you feel like you have some ownership of your character and the story around you. If you like Mass Effect for its story, you will like The Old Republic. You could play this as a solo game from beginning to end and it would be worth the money... and there are 8 separate stories. I could absolutely see myself leveling every class to max level on both Empire and Republic.
Flashpoints and Heroic Quests: The flashpoint I did was really fun for a low level dungeon. However, I was supposed to be tanking and at level 10 they had not given me a taunt or a threat presence (I got threat presence at 14, I think a taunt comes at 16). Having the story and being able to make choices in the Flashpoints really makes them compelling in a way that WoW never was (since I never really went to outside sources to get the lore in Wow), but WoW is much better about the order it gives you your skills post 3.0. In my opinion as soon as you pick your Advanced Class as a tank, you should get a +threat stance and a taunt. The final Heroic Quest I did was genuinely hard, requiring CCs and line of sighting on certain pulls. My group of 4 was not able to finish the quest as it was either overtuned on beta, or our healer was terrible. I am not sure how much healers should be able to handle at level 14. So I liked the group content, but I did not love it at least at levels 10 - 15.
PVP: Feels exactly like low level WoW PVP so far to me. I liked what little of it I did.
This is easily the best non WoW MMO that I have tried. If the raid content is there, I will most likely be switching. The idea of leveling 85 - 90 (or 1 - 90 on a Monk) without voice acting and a compelling story just sounds painful after getting some time with The Old Republic. Hopefully the endgame is as impressive as levels 1 - 15 were.
cartoon_soldier
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Gritesh said:
Just use force powers
DimmuBurgerKing
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Oh, man. I couldn't resist trying Smuggler despite wanting to save it for Release Day. So much fun, especially the story bits. Definitely going to be my main.
I just got up to Balmorra, I would have gone farther but I was more interested in figuring out which class I want to main. Tough call between Sith Inquisitor healer or Bounty Hunter tank.
Beta is in really good shape though. Aside from the aforementioned Open World Instancing and a few other minor issues.
Beta is in really good shape though. Aside from the aforementioned Open World Instancing and a few other minor issues.
I played a trooper and bounty hunter to level 12ish or so, and I was impressed with both leveling experiences. Everything felt remarkably fluid and tight for an MMO so close to launch. I was half expecting a disaster, but once I got through the queue I was pleased with what Bioware has done. I stopped playing yesterday because I didn't want to spoil the launch. Nearly certain I am going bounty hunter.
I have the CE ordered from Amazon. Zero chance I cancel that thing after this weekend. I know MMORPGs aren't for everybody, but this game is really good and deserves the hype.
I have the CE ordered from Amazon. Zero chance I cancel that thing after this weekend. I know MMORPGs aren't for everybody, but this game is really good and deserves the hype.
I didn't know if this story in a MMO thing was actually going to be compelling for me, but it is. I'll play 1-10 at minimum 4 times, as there are 4 sets of zero repeating content, and if it keeps up I'll redo the whole game for each class.
There was no reason for me to do WoW more than twice, because I just toured the scenery in each faction's zones with a character from each. Didn't miss anything by not doing the quests.
There was no reason for me to do WoW more than twice, because I just toured the scenery in each faction's zones with a character from each. Didn't miss anything by not doing the quests.
Yeah, if you have the PC for it.Kandinsky said:I had a blast with the game, I didnt run into any problems, no lag, no crashes, everything was smooth on my end, nice experience all around
I won't get into spec specifics in case they do a ton of optimization before launch, but if you were thinking this looks kinda like the recent WoW expansions so it'll have requirements that aren't much higher...you're mistaken. The CPU demands in particular seem to be much, much higher.
Last Hearth
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I wasn't in this weekend, but I was in the October one, and my budget build i3-2100 and 460 GTX ran everything turned high with no problems.
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