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Star Wars: The Old Republic [Releasing Date: Dec 20 NA/EU - NDA Lifted]
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BattleMonkey
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Coldsnap said:
Yep the latest build stuff is looking alot like Clone Wars
BattleMonkey
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Derwind said:
The stuff from PAX looked nicely animated, they greatly improved combat animtions too and also doing lot of melee combat synching too like in the old KOTOR games. The idle animations have lots of character too.
BattleMonkey said:
They were good but like I said, it was a little "too stiff".....
Not that its a bad thing, especially considering how much time there is to polish those animations.
The combat animations are pretty good. And a lot of the force casting animations are pretty neat.
The running animation could be better, surely the jumping animation could have a little more life to them(they look like EQ animations), I'm not too keen on the cut scene animations(they all pace identically, their faces are pretty stiff and they don't do much with their hands besides keep them behind their backs).
Keep in mind, I'm purposely being nitpicky.
I'd certainly buy the game the way it is right now if they were selling it.
BattleMonkey
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Derwind said:
Seems to be the Bioware way. It bugged me in Dragon's Age all the conversations seemed so boring with occassional pacing or random shrugs and gestures. ME games were full of it too, though they did improve in that game I think with lot more changing angles and sometimes characters would walk around together and such even.
Wouldnt count on that. Animations in MMOs pretty much never get "polished" from beta to release. Even when the developer says they will polish up the animations before release they wont get touched.Derwind said:
The animations look alright. Not great but they get the job done and Im used to very average animation in MMOs now so I dont really notice.
Video interview with Daniel Erickson
The PvP embargo is related to the release schedule of certain print magazines. Edge 228 has a preview of SWTOR and that magazine should be delivered to the subscribers tomorrow.
Last one was lifted on a Thursday so I expect the same for the PvP embargo. The only reason people keep saying the 4th on the forum is because of the EA investor meeting, the fact that it's the unofficial Star Wars day and this countdown clock (related to the Blu Ray release of the movies) ends today. If we're lucky, we'll get a hint at a release date from the investor meeting.Door2Dawn said:
The PvP embargo is related to the release schedule of certain print magazines. Edge 228 has a preview of SWTOR and that magazine should be delivered to the subscribers tomorrow.
MaddenNFL64
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Derwind said:They were good but like I said, it was a little "too stiff".....
Not that its a bad thing, especially considering how much time there is to polish those animations.
The combat animations are pretty good. And a lot of the force casting animations are pretty neat.
The running animation could be better, surely the jumping animation could have a little more life to them(they look like EQ animations), I'm not too keen on the cut scene animations(they all pace identically, their faces are pretty stiff and they don't do much with their hands besides keep them behind their backs).
Keep in mind, I'm purposely being nitpicky.
I'd certainly buy the game the way it is right now if they were selling it.
Compare the new animations to other mmos. The syncing, and flow of it is pretty damn good in that context.
BattleMonkey
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May the 4th be with you all!
From open betas usually not much, but the game has yet to reach that yet and has been improving bit by bit. We don't even have a release date yet so it's hard to say how much more polish time they are going to have.
Xiaoki said:
From open betas usually not much, but the game has yet to reach that yet and has been improving bit by bit. We don't even have a release date yet so it's hard to say how much more polish time they are going to have.
BattleMonkey said:
You just reminded me about this. http://maythe4th.starwars.com/countdown.php I doubt it's TOR related but still Star Wars.
Seems the European beta is getting closer. BioWare are sending out emails to inform, that the beta will start soon:
Translated:
Translated:
http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=311671
BattleMonkey
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Door2Dawn said:
Well it has to be fall or winter, it would be impossible at this point for a summer release.
SloppehSlawlz
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ME3's pushback can be interpreted in however you want it to fit into your argument. So essentially, ME3's pushback is a wash... it means nothing because it could mean anything.Door2Dawn said:
BattleMonkey
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Door2Dawn said:
September as the soonest I would imagine. The game still needs to go into larger scale closed beta testing, and the game has not even been solicited to retailers yet. They obviously are going to want to announce details and start getting in preorders which is going to take several months before release. I'm just hoping they don't wait for a holiday release.
randomlyrossy
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Got the email about the Euro test (in English). Looks like the signup I did before is still valid as I didn't have to redo anything. Which is something I was wondering.
I'm not sure I want to get into the beta, on one hand I really want to play the game but on the other I'd rather have my first time be the final product and know all my progress will be saved.
I'm not sure I want to get into the beta, on one hand I really want to play the game but on the other I'd rather have my first time be the final product and know all my progress will be saved.
randomlyrossy
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Trouble said:
That's actually a pretty good idea. I shall have to ponder on that one, course it's all moot until I actually get into the beta.
If nothing else it'll be a good excuse to see how the game will run on my computer. From the videos and screens I'm not sure it's going to run well or look very good on my current setup.
DurielBlack
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randomlyrossy said:
I've been planning to play a Imperial Agent since the class was announced, and already determined if I get into Beta I will be playing something as far from that as possible so as not to ruin the experience.
Also, I want to know how the game will run on my rig. MMO's in general are made with older tech in mind, and TOR is no exception, but my comp is from 2007.
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New picture posted on the facebook page
Stephen Reid's: https://twitter.com/#!/Rockjaw/status/66002820624695296
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ZombieFred
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That was a really well done interview, and the best thing about this is Bioware's stance with what makes "Star Wars" in the universe they have been crafting. And the best thing about this? Drew overseeing the lore/story for this. This is the man you can trust.
They only had their hands on the Alderaan warzone. My guess is that they'll show open world PvP next Friday - they already said, that whenever they start talking about PvP, they will reveal it "all". We saw last week that lifting an embargo does not mean everyone will post their impressions right away. Some sites even posted some of their PvE articles yesterday. With that in mind, I think BioWare will be kind and let them finish on their PvP impressions before blowing our minds!Spire said:
Quote from the Investor Meeting:
Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but it sounds to me as if they are hoping to ship in Q2 (July-September).
bjaelke said:
This would make sense from both an EA and a Bioware point of view in terms of release (I'd say September right now). Although if they got it out before Blizcon they would be doing themselves a huge favour. It would also match up to the current beta progression if the team is moving from content to optimisation (as the EU beta indicates).
BattleMonkey
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Yea they need to take advantage of any hype they can get without being overshadowed by some Blizzard release.
EA also apparently says it could slip to Jan perhaps.... they seriously need to get this sucker out. I can understand that they are putting a heavy investment into the game and want it to be good when released.... but come on!
EA also apparently says it could slip to Jan perhaps.... they seriously need to get this sucker out. I can understand that they are putting a heavy investment into the game and want it to be good when released.... but come on!
BattleMonkey said:
I think its such a mistake at this point not to commit to getting whatever it takes to get it out before the holiday season this year. They need to build a strong base before any WoW expansion or competitor builds momentum.
They are also against Guild Wars 2 in the MMO space, which is shaping it incredibly well as a non subscription game.
BattleMonkey
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I don't see GW2 as competition really. MMO's big problems is that players don't want to sub to multiple games. Lot of players will still be getting into paid sub MMO's and picking up GW2 because it's free to play. I would love to play many MMO's, but can't justify paying for multiple competing games, but will play multiple f2p titles without issue.
Going up potentially against holiday games, GW2, and Tera all together I think is more of a tough thing for TOR. A Sept release would give the game breathing room.
Going up potentially against holiday games, GW2, and Tera all together I think is more of a tough thing for TOR. A Sept release would give the game breathing room.
BattleMonkey said:
I don't deny that GW2 will sell well if the game is good, but it will have a negative impact on TOR if theres enough content there to keep people on GW2 rather than any competitor. Blizzard have this hands down. Even free to play or less expensive alternatives have failed in front of Blizzard because of good content updates and an active community. Even if Bioware pumped monthly updates out, it would mean nothing if the community still spent their time in GW2/WoW/Rift etc.
They need to release at a time where their competitors are still not ready to launch any substantial update of any kind, and when theres not enough out in the market for gamers to be playing something else.
BattleMonkey
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Well have to see, if it's like how they handled GW1, I'm not expecting much in the form of major content updates since they likely will want to continue the paid expansion method, holding back major updates for those. But I'm sure it will have an impact along with all the other holiday releases. They got lot of hype behind TOR and think far more than GW2 or lot of other games, but they are going to need every bit of help to make game of this size successful.
BattleMonkey said:
Well I think your right in that content updates will be paid for, but I also think their goals are a little difference. TOR focuses more on solo and small party adventure play, but really focusing on that 1 or 2 player affair where as GW2 is WoW 2.0, with a more streamlined quest affair but massive open world with huge overarching stories and massive world bosses.
Vlodril
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I think it will be stupid to launch nov to jan. What TOR needs most of all is word of mouth and buzz, if it launches amidst all other mega blockbusters it may get lost in the crowed.
September is the best time to launch i think, not many releases , schools back in so word can spread etc.
On the other hand IF the game is actually brilliant it wont matter (but i am not expecting anything revolutionary). Bioware so far has seemed to have played it very very safe in making TOR, but i could be wrong.
September is the best time to launch i think, not many releases , schools back in so word can spread etc.
On the other hand IF the game is actually brilliant it wont matter (but i am not expecting anything revolutionary). Bioware so far has seemed to have played it very very safe in making TOR, but i could be wrong.
Mister_Bubbles
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Rock, Paper, Shotgun PVP Impressions are up... and they're not too positive.
Edit: He does say that "for many in the room it seemed to be lots of fun." However;
Edit: He does say that "for many in the room it seemed to be lots of fun." However;
BattleMonkey
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They seem to need more cover in the actual levels, but really does seem pointless in a MMO style of pvp game. Unless there was one hit kills and such, cover play would be pretty silly. The other classes should have no issue but Smugglers and IA's are going to get screwed unless they come up with a compromise just for pvp.
Though do like that they are apparently going to have an anti AOE effect as well in the game along with their anti CC system.
Though do like that they are apparently going to have an anti AOE effect as well in the game along with their anti CC system.
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