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Star Wars: The Old Republic [Releasing Date: Dec 20 NA/EU - NDA Lifted]

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Jarmel

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antonz said:
Yes starter worlds are tiny compared to the larger worlds.

Does anyone play WoW so we can get a comparison. I only played it for the trial(got out early) so I have a rough idea of the scale.

The loot aspect reminds me strongly of WoW which is disappointing.
 

bjaelke

Member
Jarmel said:
Does anyone play WoW so we can get a comparison. I only played it for the trial(got out early) so I have a rough idea of the scale.

The loot aspect reminds me strongly of WoW which is disappointing.
Starter/Origin worlds are roughly equal to two WoW zones. Regular planets are 7-8 WoW zones.
 

Jarmel

Banned
bjaelke said:
Starter/Origin worlds are roughly equal to two WoW zones. Regular planets are 7-8 WoW zones.

And the total number of WoW zones is in the 30-something range correct? I'm really quite impressed with the size.

The VA work also seems top notch. The textures though seem very flat especially in the cave.

One thing I absolutely despise is when you make a Light-side decision(I almost called it Paragon lol), the whole damn screen goes blue. I mean can they make it any more obvious? No wait they can by adding a blue star too.

The transport vehicle was very cool although seemed a little big for the map.
 

bjaelke

Member
The Youtube option on Justin.tv appears to be broken, so if anyone else is able to rehost the flv files, please go ahead!
Jarmel said:
One thing I absolutely despise is when you make a Light-side decision(I almost called it Paragon lol), the whole damn screen goes blue. I mean can they make it any more obvious? No wait they can by adding a blue star too.
You can even hover the mouse cursor over the answers to see what kind of answer it is!
 

Jarmel

Banned
That video confirms why I don't play melee heavy classes. I would have liked to see more Force usage. Quite frankly I found it pretty boring.

The Dark side choice also seemed less intrusive although still pretty damn intrusive.

The character customization seemed ok if not a little simple. I was expecting alot more options.

Music seemed really sparse at times and not that spectacular.

I also would love to know what settings he ran the game on.
 

Orgun

Member
Loving the look of the game and I don't care if it turns out to be WoW with a Star Wars skin, that would be awesome. As much as people complain - WoW is/was a good MMO.


Man I can't wait.
 

Jarmel

Banned
The combat for the Sith Inquisitor looked more interesting but still not that great.

I also lol'd at the horrible kissing scene hopefully they fix that in the final release.
 
Baller said:
Who the fuck cares? WoW + lightsabers + story/voice is EXACTLY what I want. If it ain't broke don't try to fix it. Just expand upon it and make it better.

Sith Assassin is looking so damn tempting due to familiarity... I've been playing a Rogue in WoW since launch (no alts, I'm weird). I'd like to branch out into something else though. Hmm...

I really agree with this. Everything WoW does is great for the most part ... I've just had too much of it (haven't played since about a month or two after Cata).

I do want that "goto game" again though and hopefully this fills the role. I think just randomly exploring the SW universe with this much (i hope) care put it into it will make worth the price of admission and a few months alone.

The only thing I dread is general chat talking about WoW for the first month like every new MMO does, will be even worse with the drop off of subscribers looking for a fix lately.
 

Jarmel

Banned
Door2Dawn said:
Wow someone is really sticking their neck out for this.

Sucks there isn't any sound.

There is, the idiot just forgot to turn it on or something for the first few minutes. Just keep on watching.
 

Creamwolf

Neo Member
I'm really hoping that this isn't just WoW with Star Wars universe. I hoping it's KOTOR with friends. There's a huge difference between those two games and a very large reason why I left WoW was due to the game feeling like I was carrying out a task while playing.

Also, in the video did anyone else notice the character being referred to as "sir" during conversations despite being female?




Edit: For clarification, I realize the different nuances between an MMO and an RPG in terms of combat etc...I'm hoping for more attention to immersion and story than grinding for the best gear and so on. In WoW I felt like the story and leveling was more fun than end game for the most part. Also, I felt that there was more emphasis on end game to deal with interesting and vital plot changes which added to the "rush" to attain the highest level and gear.
 

Jackl

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mxgt said:
People calling new mmo's WoW clones is really getting old.

WoW is a great base model.


But it isn't the only one. The fact the industry as a whole is afraid of taking new directions is unhealthy long term.
 

Trouble

Banned
mxgt said:
People calling new mmo's WoW clones is really getting old.

WoW is a great base model.
I propose the term "WoW clone" becomes a bannable offense in this thread. It is almost always tossed out with nothing backing it up in attempt to derail the thread.

Jackl said:
But it isn't the only one. The fact the industry as a whole is afraid of taking new directions is unhealthy long term.
Care to explain with some detail, rather than just vague complaints?

Edit: was a bit harsh, softened a bit
 

CzarTim

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Trouble said:
I propose the term "WoW clone" becomes a bannable offense in this thread. It is almost always tossed out with nothing backing it up in attempt to derail the thread.
I saw this same post on the Blizzard forums.
 

CzarTim

Member
K.Sabot said:
This game looks terribly boring.
Pretty much all MMOs look boring when you watch others play.

Jarmel said:
The textures though seem very flat especially in the cave.
They turn down textures for betas to save on download time / bandwidth. Plus we don't know what type of rig he has.
 

bjaelke

Member
Back when WoW was first revealed, it was called a EQ clone.
K.Sabot said:
This game looks terribly boring.
Some of it looked a bit dull, but that was merely the result of the play style. It was as if he was trying to multitask and the other thing clearly ended up getting most of his attention!
 
The video confirms exactly what I thought TOR would be - a generic MMO with a Star Wars makeover and lame dialog that is intended to make you feel more "connected" with the quest but just slows down the pace of the game.

The graphics are ugly as sin and the animation is worse than most of the competition. I know it's not the final product, but I doubt it's going to get much better.

I'll wait for GW2 or TERA.
 

bjaelke

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2011
dork said:
why cant they invite more to the beta? this is crazy
Rumor has it, that they're ending the current closed beta on May 17th. This also fits well with the leaked footage. The guy knew the beta was coming to an end, so he had nothing to lose.
 

Derwind

Member
Dmorr07 said:
Managed to find an archived video from that account. The video is an hour and a half long, from the screenshot posted earlier it looks like there may be another part. Haven't watched it all yet but it looks legit.

http://www.justin.tv/archive/archive_popout?id=285836649

bjaelke said:

OMFG! YES!!! Thank you both!!! I'm so stoked for this game!!!

Mister Wilhelm said:
I'll wait for GW2 or TERA.

Have fun. =)
 

Door2Dawn

Banned
bjaelke said:
2011

Rumor has it, that they're ending the current closed beta on May 17th. This also fits well with the leaked footage. The guy knew the beta was coming to an end, so he had nothing to lose.
Could that mean...

Dare I say it...


Open beta!?
 

antonz

Member
I certainly wouldnt screw around on an EA owned forum. The recent track record of forum bans = game bans means best behavior
 

Trouble

Banned
bjaelke said:
No, you have to jump in a few sec to get part 1 started.
No dice :(
Black screen and it just stays at 0:00:00

EDIT: Started working after refreshing for like the 10 billionth time! Hurray!
 

Trouble

Banned
Dmorr07 said:
That's what it's doing for me too now. Guessing they're in the process of being taken down?
Keep refreshing, worked for me eventually. A little over half of the part1 vid buffered now. Hopefully I get it all before it gets 404'ed.
 

Izayoi

Banned
Door2Dawn said:
Who fucking cares.
I do, because I wanted this to be better than WoW.

Why are we trying to emulate a game that's almost a decade old now?

Fuck's sake, people. It's time to do something new.
 

bjaelke

Member
Izayoi said:
I do, because I wanted this to be better than WoW.

Why are we trying to emulate a game that's almost a decade old now?

Fuck's sake, people. It's time to do something new.
Go back to your Tera thread
and keep posting those gorgeous pictures!
 

bjb

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Door2Dawn said:
Who fucking cares.

I would imagine a lot of people care. Especially fans of the original KOTOR series. Myself included.

From the UI, to the action bars, all the way down to the bags (inventory) and minimap - this game is shaping up to be a carbon copy of World of Warcraft.

It's disheartening that MMO developers and studios alike aren't even trying to be original.

I understand it's all about making money, and it's obvious Bioware's priority is their bottom line.

Just sucks that such a wonderful franchise is being ruined as a WoW clone.
 
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