Confused101
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Myth busted.Ignis Fatuus said:
But seriously, where's my invite? I signed up 4 weeks ago... I paid my dues!! Let me in!
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Star Wars: The Old Republic [Releasing Date: Dec 20 NA/EU - NDA Lifted]
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But seriously, where's my invite? I signed up 4 weeks ago... I paid my dues!! Let me in!
I don't get the people in here claiming this game cost 300m or needs millions of subscribers to break even.
You gotta figure that this game is on the pc so there is no platform holder cut , its a pc game so its mostly going to be sold online through Origin.
I'm going to say that EA will make $30 per copy of the game with 1 m in sales thats 30m , with 2 m in sales that 60m.
With a 100m budget that will cover a large cost of the game.
Then factor in that the game will most likely sub for $13-$15 per month . Even if they bring in $6 after money going for bandwidth , support and new content thats still alot
1m subs a month means they will bring in $6m a month or 66m in its first year (a free month will come with the game) So it an make as much as 96m or 126m in its first year. Which would easily make up its budget.
I really don't see this game costing more than $150 with marketing budget included . Wow was around the $50m mark I believe
You gotta figure that this game is on the pc so there is no platform holder cut , its a pc game so its mostly going to be sold online through Origin.
I'm going to say that EA will make $30 per copy of the game with 1 m in sales thats 30m , with 2 m in sales that 60m.
With a 100m budget that will cover a large cost of the game.
Then factor in that the game will most likely sub for $13-$15 per month . Even if they bring in $6 after money going for bandwidth , support and new content thats still alot
1m subs a month means they will bring in $6m a month or 66m in its first year (a free month will come with the game) So it an make as much as 96m or 126m in its first year. Which would easily make up its budget.
I really don't see this game costing more than $150 with marketing budget included . Wow was around the $50m mark I believe
Alex
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You don't need WoW-subs to turn a good profit. Maintaining a steady 500,000k after several months out is typically the major victory flag, and what most publishers should aim for. But instead of trying to carve a niche, focus on something unique or cult, they all try to go after WoW and get into a pissing match they can't afford. As the cratered landscape shows, it rarely works out.
This game, on the other hand, looks like the first big contender. It will be so fun to watch , I'm not much of a sales person but I'm really curious to see how it ends up and how Bioware supports it going forward and if it can legitimately tear a chunk out of WoW, it's about the only thing at this point that can. (barring, well, Titan)
You know, I always figured if Square would like...stop trying to make REALLY bad Everquest clones with their Final Fantasy MMO's, that they could have a big piece of the market too.
I mean, FFXI held 500k it's entire life and is probably an order of magnitude the most profitable product they've ever made, but imagine if it or XIV was more like a normal FF game instead of just laced with classical trappings. If it was intuitive, polished, controlled well and easy to pick up instead of a gigantic fucking brickwall of MMO dark ages design (with fantastic art and a good soundtrack).
This game, on the other hand, looks like the first big contender. It will be so fun to watch , I'm not much of a sales person but I'm really curious to see how it ends up and how Bioware supports it going forward and if it can legitimately tear a chunk out of WoW, it's about the only thing at this point that can. (barring, well, Titan)
You know, I always figured if Square would like...stop trying to make REALLY bad Everquest clones with their Final Fantasy MMO's, that they could have a big piece of the market too.
I mean, FFXI held 500k it's entire life and is probably an order of magnitude the most profitable product they've ever made, but imagine if it or XIV was more like a normal FF game instead of just laced with classical trappings. If it was intuitive, polished, controlled well and easy to pick up instead of a gigantic fucking brickwall of MMO dark ages design (with fantastic art and a good soundtrack).
Jarmel said:
Mostly due to the way they've been doing the testing. I think most folks are used to the later stages of beta where invites are in the tens of thousands. They've been doing, what, 1,000 invites each time? Low probability for an invite.
I share the pain though. I've been signed up since the day you could sign up for testing and still no invite. Then you read about people who've been invited 2 or 3 times. Share the love, Bioware!
John Ricotello said it at the last investors' meeting. Problem was, that it was meant only for the investors and not for the public. Some of the guys on the official forum over analyzed it. They're increasing the numbers (already confirmed by Stephen Reid), but over a longer period and not just at the end of June. EU beta players are currently still limited to 3rd party/survey invites.Keiician said:
PaddyOCanager
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bjaelke said:
Omg thank you so much, I've been waiting for that. BH is my class, definitely going for Mercenary too. I loved being a BH in SW Galaxies, hopefully it will be just as fun in TOR.
It's funny that they made one last year and decided to update it, but the consular is still lacking the first updatePaddyOCanager said:
http://www.swtor.com/media/trailers/armor-progression
bjaelke said:
They probably wanted to do it in the style of the other armor progressions. With the advanced classes and their distinct looks. Still kinda lame that the consular hasn't been touched on for months now. We need armor progression and some updates on the class page, way overdue!
itwasTuesday
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Any class that can shoryuken a mecha rancor looking thing is a class I want to play.bjaelke said:
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MaddenNFL64
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shoryuken. Damn.
And I love how the trooper & jedi from trooper progression got merked. This bounty hunter will get destroyed by the consular, haha.
And I love how the trooper & jedi from trooper progression got merked. This bounty hunter will get destroyed by the consular, haha.
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LightofRohan
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Do people know that you can change the color of your laser by putting crystals in the gun?
MaddenNFL64
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Darknessbear said:
color cartridge, ya.
LightofRohan
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Ahh k. Cause the picture said they didn't know why the Bounty Hunters laser was a different color.MaddenNFL64 said:
kyo_daikun
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Still no luck beta code wise, not sure if its a bad thing tho as I would like to play it fresh the first time through without worrying about my character getting wiped.
kyo_daikun
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CcrooK said:
Yeah its what I ended up doing on DC universe, made a villian and played it in the beta thinking I would be a hero in the release version, release came along and I ended up maxing 3 villians before I finally made a hero.
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Darknessbear said:
They meant, the shots before were all green, but that one is yellow, likely signifying a power was used. Maybe a stun shot or something is my guess.
Ignis Fatuus
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This ability wasn't known? Huh.
water_wendi
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Yea.. looks great. Perfect blend of realistic and cartoon.antonz said:
EhrgeizVII
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antonz said:
Yeah, I was thinking exactly this. They're really polishing up the final bits of the game. I hope it'll release on October 4th like that guy on the Betacake website said in a Q&A (a beta player though, no official BioWare statement). I really hope it'll play as good as World of Warcraft. Hate all you want on that game, the gameplay is close to perfect, imo. So smooth and natural.
Dinosaur Tamer
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Glad to see others noticing the progress they made with the art style and general visuals during the last few month. I was able to play the game at gamescom last year and feel like the latest videos and screenshots showed some significant improvements in comparison.
After playing World of Warcraft for several years that feeling of smoothness is something I have come to expect of a new MMORPG. It is something I really missed in more recent MMORPGs like Warhammer Online or Rift.
For what it's worth the ~20 minutes I played SWTOR had a similar feeling to it and that is actually one of the aspects of the game I am most excited about now.
EhrgeizVII said:
After playing World of Warcraft for several years that feeling of smoothness is something I have come to expect of a new MMORPG. It is something I really missed in more recent MMORPGs like Warhammer Online or Rift.
For what it's worth the ~20 minutes I played SWTOR had a similar feeling to it and that is actually one of the aspects of the game I am most excited about now.
I don't trust you unless +25 million is significant to you. There is no way it crept up into the 200-300M mark. That kind of cash outlay just wouldn't be approved no matter how much residual income was down the pike. They're using a third-party engine for chrissakes, there's not even an R&D cost associated with this project (or at least not a very large amount).Blackface said:
I wouldn't have any problem admitting I'm wrong, I just don't see where certain numbers are coming from. Maybe you could cheat and roll marketing and promo costs into the budget as a whole, but even then... Don't see it.
Says the guy in the beta.Ignis Fatuus said:
EhrgeizVII
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Dinosaur Tamer said:
That's really great to hear!
Ignis Fatuus
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Beta players have no inside knowledge of any release date.EhrgeizVII said:
Could've sworn I heard about it elsewhere and indeed it seems the tooltip had been shown before. They just didn't put two and two together.Yasae said:
kyo_daikun
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Yaska said:
Would be nice to have mandalorian armor, would probably be one of the end armors if it is in there tho.
HarryDemeanor
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Might want to get rid of that picture.
Ignis Fatuus
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Of tangential relevance, does anyone know where I can get an MP3 of this? The versions I'm finding are either low quality or incomplete.
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