Ass of Can Whooping
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Man go back to harassing people in their DMs lmao
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Starfield has 'Mixed' reviews on Steam (Up: 'Recent' reviews are Mostly Negative)
Man go back to harassing people in their DMs lmao
Ginzeen
Banned
I already explained why. No use of this going forward. Please submit your entry here: https://m.fanfiction.net/
Ginzeen
Banned
Another one joins the fray! It's starting to get infested! Lmaoo
Drizzlehell
Banned
What a ride it was to see the community go from loving this game when it came out to now claiming that it's the biggest disappointment ever. Literal sheeple, lol.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
is a simple question.
Does Starfield's loading screen make the game better or worse?
If you choose better, you will reveal yourself as the
you are.if you say worse, you will prove my point. (and you cannot do that).
if you keep evading the question, it will show the struggle you have to confront reality.
Unknown Soldier
Member
Imagine having DM's enabled here LMAO
GHG
Gold Member
Klayzer
Member
I wonder who's reincarnated alt he is.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Damian black
Member
Nah that was just the shills trying to hype you up. This game has always been a mediocre shitshow in the eyes of people who know whats up at this point.
Drizzlehell
Banned
Umm, I played this since early access. It's a great game. Clearly it's not perfect but this shift towards hating on it is some hyperbolic bullshit, lol.
Ginzeen
Banned
Only reason I dm'd you was because you tried to slander me and I couldn't respond in the thread. Trust me. You're nothing special.How I found Ginzeen in my inbox.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Apart from the early access hype from long-time Bethesda fans who were always going to like it, 50% of the average gamer has disliked the game from the beginning.
You can see that shift in the positive/negative user review chart, which is skewed towards positive reviews at launch. As more days have passed, and more average non-fanboy gamer has played the game, the negative points of the game have become apparent.
For instance, on October 12, 2023, 53 gamers liked the game, while 63 gamers disliked the game.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Well, the fact that you couldn't let it go and you had to respond to me makes me realize the immense importance I have in your lifeOnly reason I dm'd you was because you tried to slander me and I couldn't respond in the thread. Trust me. You're nothing special.
Not to mention, the continued messages when I didn't respond.
Ginzeen
Banned
thats because you responded in the ABK thread....Where i can't post. So you did respond. Again if you never accused me of being florian or any other slander you wouldn't of got a dmWell, the fact that you couldn't let it go and you had to respond to me makes me realize the immense importance I have in your life
Not to mention, the continued messages when I didn't respond.
. Suck it up!!
Banjo64
cumsessed
Please get hyped for next product - it’s coming soon! We promise.
You can’t be serious. We’ve heard this about Starfield for years and look at it. And now you expect people to fall for this guff?
Ah, it’s another alt. NVM.
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Banjo64
cumsessed
Least he didn’t threaten legal action against you pal.Well, the fact that you couldn't let it go and you had to respond to me makes me realize the immense importance I have in your life
Not to mention, the continued messages when I didn't respond.
Ginzeen
Banned
Nah I liked Starfield. A lot of people did too. Elder Scrolls is a golden franchise. I'm 1 of 1 little bro. Can't clone, imitate, duplicate me. Stay salty
Portugeezer
Member
Does the score ever go up, every time I see this thread pop up...
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
thats because you responded in the ABK thread....Where i can't post. So you did respond. Again if you never accused me of being florian or any other slander you wouldn't of got a dm
!
GooseMan69
Member
This game had the shortest honeymoon period ever.
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
Only reason I dm'd you was because you tried to slander me and I couldn't respond in the thread. Trust me. You're nothing special.
You wanted senpai to notice you
Varteras
Member
A game made by a studio well beyond its glory days. Overhyped by the Bethesda fanbase who was hoping to see those days come back, as well as the Xbox fanbase who have been without a big impactful exclusive since about halfway through the 360's life. I think it's fairly commendable to see people come to their senses as quickly as they have. Last generation was insufferable for how long people struggled against reality. Now if they can just stop falling for the same hype traps over and over.
Revolutionary
Member
You're pulling numbers out of your ass, because Fallout 76 wasn't on Steam at launch. It launched on Steam with the well-received Wastelanders update.
Fallout 76 now has a 'Mostly Positive' rating on Steam
Things are starting to look up for the maligned survival romp.
bitbydeath
Gold Member
Probably that Me IRL guy again or whatever his name was.
DownLikeBCPowder
Member
Have you tried AC: Odyssey? I haven't personally, but that's a pretty big map with a lot of stuff to do. I do believe Origins, Odyssey, and Valhalla were all RPGs. Again, I'm not trying to make you think you're wrong for liking what you like. I guess I'm just trying to illustrate that alternatives do exist and that there are many games these days doing things now that not many were in Bethesda's glory days. I think at a certain point a person can get a little too specific and limiting in what they want in an alternative. But that doesn't make you wrong, at all, for wanting that exact kind of game just done by someone else.
I do think the gaming community overall is moving on from the notion that Bethesda games are super special in today's landscape. Open-world? RPG? Dialogue? Discovery? It's just all been done so much now. Not all at once in one game all the time. But enough to where you really need to make what you have a lot more polished than just simply having it. That's where people seem to feel Bethesda has been left behind. It's not enough to have dialogue. It has to be well-written. It's not enough to have a big world. It has to be well-designed. I could go on but you get where I'm going, I'm sure.
Feel free at any point to tell me to shut the fuck up. Starting to feel like I'm just talking at you
This game is absolutely nothing like what Bethesda makes though. I like Odyssey/Origins, but it's not even in the same category of feel when played. These games listed are not alternatives to Bethesda games.
Drizzlehell
Banned
If you're suggesting that I'm some long-time Bethesda fanboy then you'd be dead-ass wrong.Apart from the early access hype from long-time Bethesda fans who were always going to like it, 50% of the average gamer has disliked the game from the beginning.
You can see that shift in the positive/negative user review chart, which is skewed towards positive reviews at launch. As more days have passed, and more average non-fanboy gamer has played the game, the negative points of the game have become apparent.
For instance, on October 12, 2023, 53 gamers liked the game, while 63 gamers disliked the game.
Nice theory though, but I think that more accurate assessment is that people who actually found themselves enjoying the game naturally spent more time playing and reviewed it in the early days after the release. You know, as it usually happens with a newly released game. You're also providing raw statistic against a vocal minority. You don't need strength in numbers to make the latter noticeable. In most cases people who don't care about this shit - those are the ones actually playing and enjoying the game rather than arguing about it on message boards like toddlers.
yazenov
Gold Member
The same thing was said about Starfield, the game of the generation.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
lol no wasn't referring to you.
I was only explaining -- with the Steam chart -- why the positive reviews were front-loaded. Those who preorder are (1) usually those who were super hyped for a game, or (2) long-term fans of a studio or type of game.
So chances are that they were most likely gonna love the game, hence the high percentage of positive reviews. But as more "average gamer" who doesn't belong to those two groups started getting their hands on, the ratio of negative reviews kept increasing.
This can be seen in the Steam user reviews chart I shared above.
Drizzlehell
Banned
Still just a theory, though. The game had a lot of hype around it, sure, but that also means that it will have a wider reach in attracting casuals too, not just the fanboys. A good example of this is Cyberpunk, which had even more hype surrounding it prior to release, to the point where even non-gaming public was talking about it.
Anyway, what I'm saying is that I find it doubtful that it was some conspiracy of Bethesda fanboys to flock to Steam and artificially boost the game's rating. That kind of unity on that scale only happens when people want to hate on something, lol. The general sentiment about Starfield among my friends and people on Discord channels that I'm with were very positive in the first few weeks after release, so I can't help but to find the current wave of negative opinions as some vocal minority who just can't cope with the fact that Bethesda may have released a decent game after a sting of disappointing controversies in recent years.
I would also sooner believe that many people simply got past the honeymoon period with the game, at which point its flaws became all the more noticeable and grating. I mean, it happens. I liked Fallout 4 at first, but ultimately ended up absolutely hating it after the first 100 hours or so.
Thirty7ven
Banned
Imagine leaning on what the game might be years from now because of mods to excuse what the game is now, and use a game released in 2011 which sits at over 92 metacritic on the worst version (ps3) and was widely viewed as game of the year in the year it released, as some sort of wild parallel to a game released in 2023 to lukewarm reviews with some overinflated scores by brand shills and mostly defended by console fanboys who decided how good the game was two years in advance just because their brand of choice purchased the developers, and have decided to turn a blind eye on the mountain of criticism and clear design, tech and creative flaws.
This isn’t Skyrim ya fucking idiots. The future is now old man.
This isn’t Skyrim ya fucking idiots. The future is now old man.
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MidGenRefresh
*Refreshes biennially
You're pulling numbers out of your ass, because Fallout 76 wasn't on Steam at launch. It launched on Steam with the well-received Wastelanders update.
Fallout 76 now has a 'Mostly Positive' rating on Steam
Things are starting to look up for the maligned survival romp.www.pcgamer.com
Exactly, which makes comparing it to Starfield rather pointless. If it'd release day one on Steam, it would be absolutely destroyed in reviews and it would never recover to where it is now.
Damian black
Member
I have been playing games for 34 years.
Very little is good about starfield.
If you really think it is a great game, you must have incredibly low standards.
Tams
Gold Member
'Mods will fix it'.
Mods are great fun and all, but they are not the answer.
1. Even games with great mid support end up clunky and incomplete when modded. The modders aren't the developers, and too often they stop working in a mod.
2. Mods often don't work well together.
3. There are a sea of mods, and it's off-putting finding a good combination. Too much choice is an issue.
4. First impressions really do matter.
5. We shouldn't be encouraging shitty game development like this.
If your game needs modding to be good to play, then your game is shit.
Mods are great fun and all, but they are not the answer.
1. Even games with great mid support end up clunky and incomplete when modded. The modders aren't the developers, and too often they stop working in a mod.
2. Mods often don't work well together.
3. There are a sea of mods, and it's off-putting finding a good combination. Too much choice is an issue.
4. First impressions really do matter.
5. We shouldn't be encouraging shitty game development like this.
If your game needs modding to be good to play, then your game is shit.
Drizzlehell
Banned
Attack the argument not the user.
Who cares how many years you've spent on something? It only means that you have 34 years of experience in having bad opinions.
Humdinger
Member
It's nice to live in a bubble, but the fact of the matter is that after the honeymoon period is over, reality starts to settle in, revealing the plethora of fundamental issues with the game (even beyond the engine).
after the first batch of media reviews then the second batch of media reviews (after the game released) and then the third wave of long reviews, critiques and essays from content creators. The opinion of the game is definitely overwhelmingly negative/disappointing.
Yeah, there is no end to "Starfield is a disappointment" videos on Youtube.
Ansphn
Member
That's cause Cyberpunk came out right after and reminded everyone what a modern open-world RPG can do.
Shit even my brother who is a huge Bethesda fan and he has been a PC guy with no bias towards PS or Xbox said Starfield was a decent game but when Cyberpunk released right after it made StarField look outdated and ancient. It reminded him what an Open-world RPG can do since GTA6, Horizon FW,GOT, RRD2, and Witcher 3 already moved the bar. Felt like he went back in time when playing Starfield.
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Klayzer
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Varteras
Member
Big, open world games are plentiful. RPGs are plentiful. Games don't have to be exactly like a Bethesda game to be an alternative. Bethesda games don't do anything special today except have a very, very particular combination of design features. Of which most, if not all, are not done better than others. They're outclassed. Except for bugs. No one does those better.
As I said, Bethesda games were special when the things they were doing weren't already found in many other games. And in which we weren't watching an increasing number of them doing it better. Unless we want to start arguing about potatoes and how you can steal a bunch of them and leave them in one place. To which I would point out that I can do the same thing in Baldur's Gate. Really at that point the only route to argue is to say that Baldur's Gate isn't open-world.
Meaning we've reached the point where we're saying that Bethesda games are so special because they're the only open-world rpgs with dialogue choices that allow you to amass stolen potatoes.
Gavon West
Spread's Cheeks for Intrusive Ads
Starfield is a phenomenal game. The only real game of the generation is the one salty gamers are playing with reviews. Shits wild....
Gudji
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Topher
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What's wild about it? Game isn't resonating with a lot of folks like it is with you or me. That happens. It doesn't help that Bethesda is ridiculously slow in getting performance updates or even adding DLSS included. I think we will see an uptick in reviews when that happens, but it is absurd that it is taking so long and all they have done is added a damn FOV slider.
BootsLoader
Banned
Oh my, so much crying for this game. I understand that Xbox fans were eagerly waiting this game to prove that the Bethesda acquisition was the right thing to do and that MS will is just starting with Starfield, but the game ended to be a floppa. I understand the pain behind this but….Todd is Todd, just live with it, mods will fix the game in 5 years from now so what is the problem?
You can always play the new Forza game…..oh wait..!!!
You can always play the new Forza game…..oh wait..!!!
Gavon West
Spread's Cheeks for Intrusive Ads
You know whats wild about it. Don't play ignorant, man. Its unbecoming.
Of course the game wont strike a chord with some but Bethesda is a highly respected developer and has been for decades. Now suddenly, when their exclusive to Xbox, their brand new IP (lets not forget the lessons they've learned and applied on this particular IP from their past games...) this most recent release is suddenly the worst game they've released??? Whats truly wild about it, is if this game released on "another platform" the narrative would be WHOLLY, ETERNALLY, MAGNIFICENTLY, MAJESTICALLY, FANTASTICALLY, INCREDIBLY different.
Truth of it; Bethesda games are Xbox games now, Nothing anyone or anything can do about it. Folks need to just let it be. It is what it is. Just my opinion....
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SmokedMeat
Gamer™
I tucked away $70 in Microsoft Store credit that was intended for Starfield. I never preorder so I figured I’d wait for early impressions.
I’ve gone from wanting to see it for myself, to I’m not blowing my $70 in credit on Starfield. I’ve noticed people with AMD promo keys dropping their asking price in half from what they were asking at launch. That’s a pretty big sign that nobody wants the game.
Anyways Arlo’s review really did it for me. He went into such detail - and while he admitted it wasn’t a bad game - it was clearly disappointing. It’s disappointing in ways that I know will be disappointing for me as well. I’m sure in five years Starfield will have added content and maybe be the game it should’ve been at launch.
Until then…eh.
I’ve also recently picked up Outer Worlds Spacers Choice Edition for under $10, so that’ll scratch any Bethesda style space itch.
I’ve gone from wanting to see it for myself, to I’m not blowing my $70 in credit on Starfield. I’ve noticed people with AMD promo keys dropping their asking price in half from what they were asking at launch. That’s a pretty big sign that nobody wants the game.
Anyways Arlo’s review really did it for me. He went into such detail - and while he admitted it wasn’t a bad game - it was clearly disappointing. It’s disappointing in ways that I know will be disappointing for me as well. I’m sure in five years Starfield will have added content and maybe be the game it should’ve been at launch.
Until then…eh.
I’ve also recently picked up Outer Worlds Spacers Choice Edition for under $10, so that’ll scratch any Bethesda style space itch.
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Gamer_By_Proxy
Member
Pretty similar to Halo Infinite's launch. Glowing reviews, people loving the MP . . . then all the stuff that was missing kicked in, and the crap battlepass, and the seasonality issues, etc.Apart from the early access hype from long-time Bethesda fans who were always going to like it, 50% of the average gamer has disliked the game from the beginning.
You can see that shift in the positive/negative user review chart, which is skewed towards positive reviews at launch. As more days have passed, and more average non-fanboy gamer has played the game, the negative points of the game have become apparent.
For instance, on October 12, 2023, 53 gamers liked the game, while 63 gamers disliked the game.
Thirty7ven
Banned
Doesn’t it continue their trajectory? Skyrim to Fallout 4, to Fallout 76…
If the game were multiplatform would you be spouting this conspiracy bs that involves so so many people? Considering Zenimax were eager to sell and sign exclusivity deals… maybe there wasn’t as much faith put on this game as people like you put in it once Bethesda was acquired.
PC fans are anti Xbox in your fan fiction ? How did that happen…
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Gavon West
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No need.
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