Lokaum D+
Member
the problem is that procedural generation can only do so much, Bethesda has so much focus on quantity over quality imo, i would be very happy with one solar system hand crafted at launch and more system as DLC
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Topher
Gold Member
Bethesda On Starfield's Big, Empty Planets: Not Every Location "Is Supposed To Be Disney World"
According to Bethesda's managing director Ashley Cheng, Starfield's more barren planets came about from the studio needing to walk a fine line between enjoyment and authenticity. Not every planet "is supposed to be Disney World," Cheng said to the New York Times. The other reason for some of the desolate worlds that you'll encounter is that it helps keep expectations in check, emphasizes the vastness of space, and is designed to make you feel small against this backdrop of the infinite expanse of space.
Bethesda On Starfield's Big, Empty Planets: Not Every Location "Is Supposed To Be Disney World"
Turns out that a big, empty planet is the perfect environment in which you can contemplate your insignificance in a cold and uncaring universe.www.gamespot.com
Let's just answer every criticism with sarcasm why don't we?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
The hubris of these "too big to fail but we somehow needed a $7b+ buyout" is palpable.Let's just answer every criticism with sarcasm why don't we?
trent_the_gent
Banned
Bethesda On Starfield's Big, Empty Planets: Not Every Location "Is Supposed To Be Disney World"
According to Bethesda's managing director Ashley Cheng, Starfield's more barren planets came about from the studio needing to walk a fine line between enjoyment and authenticity. Not every planet "is supposed to be Disney World," Cheng said to the New York Times. The other reason for some of the desolate worlds that you'll encounter is that it helps keep expectations in check, emphasizes the vastness of space, and is designed to make you feel small against this backdrop of the infinite expanse of space.
Bethesda On Starfield's Big, Empty Planets: Not Every Location "Is Supposed To Be Disney World"
Turns out that a big, empty planet is the perfect environment in which you can contemplate your insignificance in a cold and uncaring universe.
"Don't expect to be entertained by our game."
The ratings are sus as hell everyone has issues with this and the game mechanics such as shooting are below mediocre and the exploration is nothing special yet meta has this as an 88.
It sounds like this should be below a 7 whether you like it or not.
RAIDEN1
Member
The fact that this game has virtually no alien races at all, makes the world a LOT less appealing, I don't buy the reason for it being a creative choice, with just a bunch of humans dotted around on planets, they could have had an alien enemy like the elusive alien race in Elite, or like the Shadows in Babylon 5....even Guardians of the Galaxy and Mass Effect have more appealing worlds than this....
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
That looks like a very salty reply.Bethesda On Starfield's Big, Empty Planets: Not Every Location "Is Supposed To Be Disney World"
According to Bethesda's managing director Ashley Cheng, Starfield's more barren planets came about from the studio needing to walk a fine line between enjoyment and authenticity. Not every planet "is supposed to be Disney World," Cheng said to the New York Times. The other reason for some of the desolate worlds that you'll encounter is that it helps keep expectations in check, emphasizes the vastness of space, and is designed to make you feel small against this backdrop of the infinite expanse of space.
Bethesda On Starfield's Big, Empty Planets: Not Every Location "Is Supposed To Be Disney World"
Turns out that a big, empty planet is the perfect environment in which you can contemplate your insignificance in a cold and uncaring universe.
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
Bethesda On Starfield's Big, Empty Planets: Not Every Location "Is Supposed To Be Disney World"
According to Bethesda's managing director Ashley Cheng, Starfield's more barren planets came about from the studio needing to walk a fine line between enjoyment and authenticity. Not every planet "is supposed to be Disney World," Cheng said to the New York Times. The other reason for some of the desolate worlds that you'll encounter is that it helps keep expectations in check, emphasizes the vastness of space, and is designed to make you feel small against this backdrop of the infinite expanse of space.
Bethesda On Starfield's Big, Empty Planets: Not Every Location "Is Supposed To Be Disney World"
Turns out that a big, empty planet is the perfect environment in which you can contemplate your insignificance in a cold and uncaring universe.
All these fantastic creative decisions
THE DUCK
voted poster of the decade by bots
Not really what it's saying at all. It's saying they tried to balance out feature rich areas with ones that are desolate in an attempt to make it feel more "real". Wether that succeeded or not is debateable, but assuming they aren't lying, the intent may have been genuine.
Romulus
Member
That's true, those won't be that difficult
Tomeru
Member
You know, I think being able toget in your shipand actually orbit the planet and land where you want freely from space - I think that wouldve made even barren planets somewhar enjoyable.
Fbh
Member
Because they spent the past year (years?) convincing themselves that Starfield wasn't simply going to be a good game but that it was going to be a once in a generation industry defining paradigm shift of a game.
Instead it's "just" a good game, and based on the reviews I've seen it's basically just same ol' Bethesda but on a larger scale (with some issues that come with that scale).
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xpresstuning
Member
I think a lot of people just fell hard for the hype. Especially younger, more naive children that don't have experience with what Bethesda and Todd have incorporated into their marketing strategies ever since Oblivion. And by marketing strategies, i mean pure lies to feed the hype machine. I knew this game wouldn't be anything special given their recent track record.
feynoob
Banned
Have you played the game?
Rien
Jelly Belly
Wait.. no alien races? Only humans?
Gudji
Member
What's your GPU if I may ask?
Zheph
Member
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
Ok guys last one today from me on Metacritic:
By release day the MC score will probably drop to 86 for Starfield with the shunned outkast reviews coming in. On the same day BG3 releases on PS5 with a MC of 96 (for PC).
If you told me 6 months ago something would release on the same day as Starfield, on its hated rival platform no less, with 10 points higher MC score, I would have laughed.
The problem is that I.P is/was so good, crafted over 20 years. SF looks totally stale by comparison, especially being as it is trying to be more grounded.
By release day the MC score will probably drop to 86 for Starfield with the shunned outkast reviews coming in. On the same day BG3 releases on PS5 with a MC of 96 (for PC).
If you told me 6 months ago something would release on the same day as Starfield, on its hated rival platform no less, with 10 points higher MC score, I would have laughed.
The problem is that I.P is/was so good, crafted over 20 years. SF looks totally stale by comparison, especially being as it is trying to be more grounded.
Bernoulli
M2 slut
1070 with 5600 and 990 pro ssd
OuterLimits
Member
Perhaps Bethesda really loves the Fermi Paradox.
iorek21
Member
Since this is not Ubisoft or EA, then it'll get a free pass like some people tried doing for CP77.
Rien
Jelly Belly
That “ahum” in the beginning made it even better
chilichote
Member
So it's only a bigger The Outer Worlds?
Ulysses 31
Member
The smart watch that comes with the Constellation Edition looks pretty decent. Might just start wearing it. 
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Topher
Gold Member
A lot of the reviews are saying it takes a bit for it to get going. That's what I'm finding out as well.
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
Game doesn't fully support ultrawide either for anyone who's waiting for full release. Black borders on menu and cutscenes. No FOV slider either so it's cramped
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I'm just focusing on the main story and occasional side quest. The planets just seem empty to me and the space portion is just a loading map simulation. The best parts so far are the main story, so maybe I'll just focus on that
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Hudo
Member
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
Am I being stupid because I don't understand the lockpicking
feynoob
Banned
You have a chance with starfield 2 than that game.
feynoob
Banned
Starfield Lockpicking guide: Lockpicking in Starfield explained | VGC
Wondering how lockpicking in Starfield works? Just like previous Bethesda games, Starfield allows players to enter certain areas of the game if they can unlock certain doors via the lockpicking skill.
www.videogameschronicle.com
Hudo
Member
Imagine if The Outer Worlds 2 actually has bonafide space exploration and shit.
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
Hope this helps.Starfield Lockpicking guide: Lockpicking in Starfield explained | VGC
Wondering how lockpicking in Starfield works? Just like previous Bethesda games, Starfield allows players to enter certain areas of the game if they can unlock certain doors via the lockpicking skill.
So annoying lol. I'm going to have to save scum these
feynoob
Banned
If you really want space shit, wait for mods.
You will see a complete different game after 1-2 years.
feynoob
Banned
Gl.
I am little bit jealous of you guys who are playing it now.
Us peasant will have to wait until Wednesday.
DaGwaphics
Member
They said they were trying to be somewhat grounded with it from the very beginning. Obviously, they've already taken some leeway as it is with the the cities and outposts that exist, a shopping mall on every moon would just be weird. Space is filled with mostly rocks from what we know of, I can't see a game set in space that doesn't include plenty of those. Life should be just a Goldilocks situation, if anything they've gone quite far as it is with the alien animals that they've shown.
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Banjo64
cumsessed
Wait…
Ass of Can Whooping
paid for early access? And you claim to be Admiral General of the PlayStation Nation? Embarrassing. Never drink my cum ever again.
Hudo
Member
Why can't I have the game they were marketing, though? They suggested again and again that this game is about exploration and that space would play a big role in that, that you could explore every planet, which, yeah, the latter is technically true. But then people report that you can't really explore a planet seamlessly and in a coherent manner (like they suggested in marketing) but rather you're bound to a procedurally generated bubble around your ship, and that generation of said bubble doesn't even account for obvious landmarks that should be visible. People report that New Atlantis should be visible from bubbles right next to it but it isn't. And you cannot leave the bubble but rather you have to return to your ship and then land from there again?
Like, what the fuck is going on? What is the point of all the space stuff and different planets when they half-assed the implementation.
feynoob
Banned
Because it's Bethesda game.
They make good rpg games and interesting quests and lore world.
For space stuff, it's impossible with that shitty engine.
Bethesda with good engine, great space rpg game.
Bethesda with creatine engine, shit space, good rpg game.
Hudo
Member
Alright then. Then I guess their marketing just hit me different. I just didn't expect it to be like that, despite knowing that they were using some current iteration of their Creation Engine. I genuinely thought they updated it to handle all of that.
feynoob
Banned
I tell you man, that Todd is something. His sweet lies is irresistible.Wait…
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
Wait…
Concern trolling isn't cheap. I have a job to do and i'll do it no matter the cost
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
How da fuck do I navigate this star system.