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[JaseC]

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Ah. That was in regard to a marketable item, not a game.

 

[Ozium]

wat is system shock? some bioshock clone?

tell me more.

 

[kurahador]

Calling it. System Shock 3 going to pull a Bioshock Infinite twist.

 

[Enter the Dragon Punch]

SKELETON WAR NOW FUCKBOYS

 

[Ban Puncher]

Calling it. System Shock 3 going to pull a Bioshock Infinite twist.

"You know, SHODAN, we really are the System Shock."

 

[Enter the Dragon Punch]

Calling it. System Shock 3 going to pull a Bioshock Infinite twist.

the only real twist about bioshock infinite was that people liked it

 

[A Fish Aficionado]

wat is system shock? some bioshock clone?

tell me more.

woo boy.

 

[Milamber]

I don't care what anyone says, I liked Infinite.

 

[Enter the Dragon Punch]

I don't care what anyone says, I liked Infinite.

because of elizabeth

 

[Ban Puncher]

the only real twist about bioshock infinite was that people liked it

People liking a good game is a pretty big twist.

I don't care what anyone says, I liked Infinite.

 

[A Fish Aficionado]

Infinite is a 'bookend' game. Good beginning, good end, and middling middle.

 

[Milamber]

I'm gonna watch Unbreakable again.

 

[Enter the Dragon Punch]

People liking a good game is a pretty big twist.

bioshock infinite is not a good game. it's okay to like it, but it's not a good game.

 

[AHA-Lambda]

I still don't understand how anybody has issues with pursuer. He's like the easiest thing to parry in the whole game + you can use the big crossbowy thingies to kill it in 2 hits.

He was actually the boss I found toughest in my whole playthrough

 

[Ban Puncher]

bioshock infinite is not a good game. it's okay to like it, but it's not a good game.

Bioshock Infinite is not a good game.





It is a great game.

 

[Gipsy Danger]

That Isometric Fallout thread is a god damn shambles. Same reason why we rarely get turn based JRPGs anymore, people think it's an antiquated system. Annoys me so much.

 

[A Fish Aficionado]

That Isometric Fallout thread is a god damn shambles. Same reason why we rarely get turn based JRPGs anymore, people think it's an antiquated system. Annoys me so much.

Because it is an antiquated system. I can't stand that shit.

 

[Enter the Dragon Punch]

Because it is an antiquated system. I can't stand that shit.

"i can't stand it" does not equal "antiquated".

 

[A Fish Aficionado]

"i can't stand it" does not equal "antiquated".

It's passive. You should be involved in a game. Not watching X-Files on Netflix and pressing buttons to grind.
Most battles on any given turn based RPG are useless grind. Action RPG's just do it because it's a characteristic of the game, and idiots rage at any progress in gaming.

 

[Gipsy Danger]

It's passive. You should be involved in a game. Not watching X-Files on Netflix and pressing buttons to grind.
Most battles on any given turn based RPG are useless grind. Action RPG's just do it because it's a characteristic of the game, and idiots rage at any progress in gaming.

MFW Persona 4 is a useless grind.

 

[dex3108]

That thread about GTA V as highest rated game for last 3 years really hurts to read. It's a good game but praise that it is still getting is unbelievable. There is so much better games out there.

 

[The Dear Leader]

I might need to finally finish playing System Shock 2 at this point.

 

[Durante]

It's passive. You should be involved in a game. Not watching X-Files on Netflix and pressing buttons to grind.
Most battles on any given turn based RPG are useless grind. Action RPG's just do it because it's a characteristic of the game, and idiots rage at any progress in gaming.

That's an idiotic stance. Just because you apparently only played bad turn based RPGs doesn't mean that the system is inherently bad.

MFW Persona 4 is a useless grind.

Well, most battles in Persona 4 are a boring grind.

 

[A Fish Aficionado]

That's an idiotic stance. Just because you apparently only played bad turn based RPGs doesn't mean that the system is inherently bad.

Well, most battles in Persona 4 are a boring grind.

I've played many a turn based rpg's. Grind as gameplay is ridiculous, but neither should it be QTE, or combo button simplicity.

 

[Gipsy Danger]

That's an idiotic stance. Just because you apparently only played bad turn based RPGs doesn't mean that the system is inherently bad.

Well, most battles in Persona 4 are a boring grind.

You monster.

I always enjoy fighting in that game.

What JRPGS have a really good turn based battle system in your opinion? I need more to play. Been playing Trails and while I do like it, the combat is super slow and pointless after a while so I just run past most enemies when the anti-grind xp kicks in.

 

[A Fish Aficionado]

I actually didn't mind the Xenogears and similar active battle systems.

 

[Knurek]

That's an idiotic stance. Just because you apparently only played bad turn based RPGs doesn't mean that the system is inherently bad.

You all need to play Wine & Roses

 

[Hektor]

TB > RTwP > Action

I like playing rpg's with lotsa text and slow methodical battles that allow me to chill and drink a coffee.

I might need to finally finish playing System Shock 2 at this point.

Nah.

Well, most battles in Persona 4 are a boring grind.

Insert "your mom" joke here. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

 

[cyba89]

bioshock infinite is not a good game. it's okay to like it, but it's not a good game.

Bioshock Infinite is a good game. It's okay to not like it, but it's a good game.

 

[Durante]

]I've played many a turn based rpg's[/B]. Grind as gameplay is ridiculous, but neither should it be QTE, or combo button simplicity.

Well, apparently you are very unlucky in choosing good ones.

 

[Messiah]

I enjoy pure turn based battles a whole lot more in general. One of the reason Final Fantasy X is my favourite game of the Final Fantasy series despite all its whack.

I don't mind grinding either though. Random battles on the other hand can stay a thing of the past.

Edit: Considering X-COM, an isometric turn-based game, is one of my all time favourites I find the sentiment that isometric and turn-based games are relics of the past rather sad.

 

[Gipsy Danger]

I enjoy pure turn based battles a whole lot more in general. One of the reason Final Fantasy X is my favourite game of the Final Fantasy series despite all its whack.

I don't mind grinding either though. Random battles on the other hand can stay a thing of the past.

I don't mind grinding and I actually like random battles but every game should have the Bravely Default method of just turning it off or to 2x the rate. No reason not to.

 

[fantomena]

The JRPG genre has really never appealed to me, but the only games who did were Ni No Kuni, Persona 3, 4 and Xenoblade Chronicles.

Persona 4 is fucking great though. Still hope it one day arrives on PC. But with Atlus I don't even know if it will arrive in my lifeitme.

 

[accel]

I enjoy pure turn based battles a whole lot more in general.

I enjoy both real-time and turn-based battles, they strike different chords. What makes real-time tick for me is on-the-spot decision making and precision, which are both things I love, and what makes turn-based tick for me is the puzzle-like aspect of figuring out things that seem nigh impossible, which I love as well. There's no "either / or", both are great.

 

[Durante]

This discussion made me create a thread I had been thinking about for a few years

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1156508

 

[Ban Puncher]

This discussion made me create a thread I had been thinking about for a few years

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1156508

But that thread has nothing to do with anime.

 

[Enter the Dragon Punch]

STEAMGAF STEAMGAF
IT'S A HELL OF A THREAD
WHEN GAF IS UP
DISCUSSION QUALITY'S DOWN
WON'T BUY A GAME UNLESS IT'S UNDER A POUND
STEAMGAF STEAMGAF
(ANIME, ANIME)
ANIMEGAF IS THATAWAY MAN!
IT'S A HELL OF A THREADDDDDDDDDD

 

[accel]

This discussion made me create a thread I had been thinking about for a few years

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1156508

(Too afraid to leave SteamGAF as a junior member. Too many scary stories... ) (Added: good post though.)

 

[PetriP-TNT]

There's a truly riveting Valve thread on the Gaming side once again, absolutely mindblowing tale about why no valve maek gaem

 

[The Dear Leader]

There is no hope for the younger generation.

 

[KainXVIII]

That's an idiotic stance. Just because you apparently only played bad turn based RPGs doesn't mean that the system is inherently bad.

I can remember only one good turn based combat in JRPG - Breath of Fire V (but sadly, game flawed any many other aspects)

 

[Durante]

BoFQ is a fantastic game.

It's only flaw is that it's just too good.

Spoiler

Joking obviously, but I can't think of many flaws of BoFQ.

 

[Nabs]

There's a truly riveting Valve thread on the Gaming side once again, absolutely mindblowing tale about why no valve maek gaem

A thread on how Valve doesn't make games, by people who don't know how games are made. It's kind of amazing.

 

[Large Professor]

I can remember only one good turn based combat in JRPG - Breath of Fire V (but sadly, game flawed any many other aspects)

I'm not very fond of JRPGs in general, but I liked Chrono Cross' color-based combat.

 

[Knurek]

BoFQ is a fantastic game.

It's only flaw is that it's just too good.

Spoiler

Joking obviously, but I can't think of many flaws of BoFQ.

Spoiler

No Steam/GOG release?

 

[YianGaruga]

BoFQ is a fantastic game.

It's only flaw is that it's just too good.

Spoiler

Joking obviously, but I can't think of many flaws of BoFQ.

A PC port of that game would do pretty well I suppose. It's a fantastic game that the PS2 casuals just couldn't appreciate

 

[ashecitism]

A thread on how Valve doesn't make games, by people who don't know how games are made. It's kind of amazing.

plus water_wendi!

 

[MMBosstones86]

WHO

GIVE ME THEIR NAMES

So cold right now so I'm sitting with a blanket wrapped around me.

I'd like to progress a motion that the only anime posted here gets drawn through WinterDemons first.

 

[Durante]

Spoiler

No Steam/GOG release?

Good point.

 

[lashman]

Star Crusade CCG (EA/f2p)