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[RecursiveFault]

That's what i expected. Never used items for bayo 1 and 2

Items get more expensive the more you buy too, and they're actually super effective, but I didn't use any my first playthrough.

 

[GlassEmpires]

Resumed playing Xenoblade and cleared the

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Mechonis Core

only to unlock 20 hours of more questing as I want to unlock the 5th skill trees. Goddammit

 

[Zenfalcia]

So you've done Lily and Hanako's route and you're about to begin Emi's route and then do Shizune's route just to see why it sucks?

Well he didn't say he'd do shizune's after emi's.. but that's probably the best idea..

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since rin's will destroy any expectation if he does that before shizune's.

 

[ultimax]

So you've done Lily and Hanako's route and you're about to begin Emi's route and then do Shizune's route just to see why it sucks?

Cant forget Rin! lol

I'll do Emi, then Rin, and then Shizune to confirm why she sucks

unless i should do Rin last?

 

[Zenfalcia]

Cant forget Rin! lol

I'll do Emi, then Rin, and then Shizune to confirm why she sucks

unless i should do Rin last?

Up to you. It doesn't really matter.

 

[Zenfalcia]

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That's the thing. I'm not sure whether playing Rin before or after Shizune is better. If before, it will make Shizune's route even worse in comparison. If after ...well...my final route in the game was Rin's bad ending and that was a terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible idea.

Haven't forgotten Rin. It doesn't matter too much. Both options have its negatives and benefits. Also don't click on the spoiler tags or quote this. Do what you want.

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i'd think he'd be better with shizune's first so he can experience rin's fully with no expectations, but if he does it after shizune's will look like crap since he would have rin's fresh on his mind. What was terrible about it?

 

[RecursiveFault]

Abu, play Shizune first.

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I think Shizune isn't even worth playing. It was really that bad.

 

[Zenfalcia]

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It's a really depressing way to end a game. I certainly didn't mean terrible in terms of quality.

Abu, play Shizune first.

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Yeah... It kinda is.. but rin's entire route is pretty emotional. I knew you weren't talking about it being bad. It would be memorable?

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I think Shizune isn't even worth playing. It was really that bad.

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i guess.. at least he'll be able to experience it?

 

[RecursiveFault]

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While I agree, it's Abu's choice whether he wants to play it or not. We're just saying that if you're going to play Shizune's route, play it before Rin.

That's fair I guess.

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Hope it doesn't put him in a bad mood for Rin mainly

By the way I'm watching Rogue Legacy on AGDQ. I'm definitely seeing what you meant, and feel a bit bad for criticizing it because I was playing it wrong.

 

[Xiraiya]

That episode is so fucking stupid, it's great.

Cant forget Rin! lol
I'll do Emi, then Rin, and then Shizune to confirm why she sucks
unless i should do Rin last?

No, do them in whatever order you feel like, that's what I did, but then again KS wasn't something that gave me feels or bummed me out.

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The first time I played KS, I made choices as myself to see who I'd end up with, I ended up getting the Emi ending

 

[Alfebit]

So many white bars. I should start Katawa Shoujo. I remember starting it a couple months ago but then I forgot about it.

 

[Zenfalcia]

No, do them in whatever order you feel like, that's what I did, but then again KS wasn't something that gave me feels or bummed me out.

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The first time I played KS, I made choices as myself to see who I'd end up with, I ended up getting the Emi ending

So what's your ranking of the routes? Assuming you finished all the routes.

So many white bars. I should start Katawa Shoujo. I remember starting it a couple months ago but then I forgot about it.

Yep.. how far did you get?

 

[Alfebit]

Yep.. how far did you get?

I think I got into the classroom.

 

[Zenfalcia]

I think I got into the classroom.

You're barely into the VN. Up to you if you finish it or not.

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I guess it would be memorable. It was just kind of rough to end with that.

Oh shit, that's a possibility as well.

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If he does get put in a bad move, we'll tell him to take a small break. Either that or just starting with Rin is fine as well.

Nah, it's fine. Game didn't properly explain it to the player. I too spent many hours playing it slowly and killing everything in each room, rather than constantly moving forward. It's a very common situation. Who knows, maybe PG and Croten played that way as well.

He'll be fine.. probably...

Wasn't that the point? Killing everything so you have the most gold to buy things? That's how i played.

 

[Xiraiya]

So what's your ranking of the routes? Assuming you finished all the routes.

I played the game way back in early 2011 because Vidula thought maybe I wouldn't be so dead inside if I played something like that

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What a shit

So once I got that initial route I decided to try for the others, I forget the names... I'll look them up.

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Lilly's was the one I liked the most.
Rin's was the most interesting one.
Shizune's was decent but not overly weird or interesting.
Hanako's was for suckers.
Emi's was average.
I don't even remember Misha's nearly at all.

 

[Alfebit]

You're barely into the VN. Up to you if you finish it or not.

I'll get to it someday. I'm lazy.

 

[Zenfalcia]

I played the game way back in early 2011 because Vidula thought maybe I wouldn't be so dead inside if I played something like that

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What a shit

So once I got that initial route I decided to try for the others, I forget the names... I'll look them up.

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Lilly's was the one I liked the most.
Rin's was the most interesting one.
Shizune's was decent but not overly weird or interesting.
Hanako's was for suckers.
Emi's was average.
I don't even remember Misha's nearly at all.

what an amazing friend.

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So did it make you more dead inside? Or did it bring some emotion out of you that you never knew you had.

Edit: ah, i missed that you said it didn't do anything for you earlier..

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That's more or less what i think most people would agree on. Hanako is likanle as a character but her route was not too great. Misha's was part of shizune's bad end.

 

[Xiraiya]

what an amazing friend.

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So did it make you more dead inside? Or did it bring some emotion out of you that you never knew you had.

No nothing like that, it was definitely better than I expected it to be though, so I guess it was doing something right.

 

[Zenfalcia]

I'll get to it someday. I'm lazy.

Ok. It'll be a fun trip if you ever pick it up.

Not entirely. The enemy movement/attacks, level lay-out and the insane amount of freedom and control over your character are there to progress more quickly. You'll probably start out killing everything you come across slowly, die and repeat the process until you've mastered the controls and built up knowledge about each enemy type. Most bosses are also designed to force you to master the game's controls through their bullet-hell attacks, forcing you to react quickly to the mass of projectiles and dodge them properly. Once you've gotten good, you'll take on a quicker, more progress-focused playstyle, which is how its meant to be played. It's not the point to kill each enemy, it's to learn how to avoid them through sidestepping, air dashing, dair and just dodging in the air while you traverse the castle.

Huh.. i guess the slow play style is for you to gitting gud at the game and once that is over you're suppose to rush to the bosses. Once at the bosses, learn to fight them and rinse and repeat.

 

[Xiraiya]

Well then. I don't know what the context behind this gif is, but I'm sure it's...something.

 

[Zenfalcia]

No nothing like that, it was definitely better than I expected it to be though, so I guess it was doing something right.

I suppose as long as you enjoyed it, it did its job, which is saying something from a bunch of 4chan people making a visual novel about disabled people.

 

[Xiraiya]

I suppose as long as you enjoyed it, it did its job, which is saying something from a bunch of 4chan people making a visual novel about disabled people.

Yeah I expected it to just be really fucked up or just really terrible in general, But no it was just... surprisingly fine (aside from the obvious goal of each route).

 

[Zenfalcia]

Yeah I expected it to just be really fucked up or just really terrible in general, But no it was just... surprisingly fine (aside from the obvious goal of each route).

It was quite surprising. You mean the obvious goal of making girls happy, right?

 

[Xiraiya]

It was quite surprising. You mean the obvious goal of making girls happy, right?

Sure.

 

[Zenfalcia]

Sure.

I mean, what else could be in a Visual Novel story about a school for disabled kids?

Yeah pretty much. I think half of my entire playtime is me progressing incredibly slowly and trying to git gud and the other half is me finishing the rest of the game with relative ease. Some people tend to be lukewarm about Rogue Legacy because it feels grindy, slow and unforgiving, but that's only as long as you haven't properly mastered the game yet. Grinding lessens the amount of skill required to beat the game, but it's not actually necessary and the game certainly isn't slow.
Wat...
I don't...
I should watch this show soon.
Heh.

Well, it is rogue-lite so it's basically how it's supposed to be played.

 

[RecursiveFault]

It was quite surprising. You mean the obvious goal of making girls happy, right?

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Despite being a VN, the porn scenes are really some of the weakest parts in some routes. Some of them are pretty emotionally charged and fit the route though, which is pretty cool.

Man all the KS talk has me downloading it again.

 

[Xiraiya]

Beloved and I have been talking about VNs alot recently since she's almost through all the routes in Hatoful Boyfriend, we plan to download KS sometime soon and also Grab Steins;Gate.

SG is one of our favorite anime series and neither of us have played through the VN before (I installed it once and played about an hour) So that should be cool.
I know what will happen though, we'll both just go straight for the Feyris route.

 

[Zenfalcia]

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Despite being a VN, the porn scenes are really some of the weakest parts in some routes. Some of them are pretty emotionally charged and fit the route though, which is pretty cool.

Man all the KS talk has me downloading it again.

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Yeah, sometimes they feel tacked on. Even when they aren't they are particulary special, just a sex scene but with some emotion and weight behind them.

I have it permanently downloaded so i can go back and revisit scene when i feel like it

Slow and Methodological? No. It being rogue-lite means nothing. There is no significant loss when dying. All that happens is that you chose a descendant who has a randomized skill and trait set, forcing you to try out different things. You also have a way to lock the map in place if you require it. Focusing on fast-paced exploration and dodging enemies not only gives you way more supplies and gold to work with in comparison to killing enemies, but it also makes it easier to survive longer.

Oh no i mean, doing it multiple times to git gud and restarting from scratch each time.. it does? Hm.. i'll have to try it next time i boot it up again.

Beloved and I have been talking about VNs alot recently since she's almost through all the routes in Hatoful Boyfriend, we plan to download KS sometime soon and also Grab Steins;Gate.

SG is one of our favorite anime series and neither of us have played through the VN before (I installed it once and played about an hour) So that should be cool.
I know what will happen though, we'll both just go straight for the Feyris route.

Do you have any other VNs in mind you'd like to try? There's quite a few good ones if you're interested.

 

[RecursiveFault]

Beloved and I have been talking about VNs alot recently since she's almost through all the routes in Hatoful Boyfriend, we plan to download KS sometime soon and also Grab Steins;Gate.

SG is one of our favorite anime series and neither of us have played through the VN before (I installed it once and played about an hour) So that should be cool.
I know what will happen though, we'll both just go straight for the Feyris route.

You gonna look into Chaos;Head or Robotics;Notes? I don't know anything about them myself, just that they're by the same people. I'll probably grab SG on my Vita when that English version comes out. My only experience with VNs is the super popular stuff like Persona 3/4, Ace Attorney, or KS.

 

[Xiraiya]

Do you have any other VNs in mind you'd like to try? There's quite a few good ones if you're interested.

Nah, VN's are kind of a brief need that tends to pass by quickly, besides I'm playing P3P right now so that's something.
Fate/Stay etc. are ones we have been curious about since we finished catching up with UBW.

You gonna look into Chaos;Head or Robotics;Notes? I don't know anything about them myself, just that they're by the same people. I'll probably grab SG on my Vita when that English version comes out. My only experience with VNs are the super popular stuff like Persona 3/4, Ace Attorney, or KS.

The fan translation on the PC version of S;G seems great.

Not sure about CH or RN, Chaos;Head seemed a bit different to Steins;Gate and a little more regular looking, which is not what I'm looking for, I like S;G for being what it is, not for who made it

 

[demidar]

Nah, VN's are kind of a brief need that tends to pass by quickly, besides I'm playing P3P right now so that's something.

Fate/Stay etc. are ones we have been curious about since we finished catching up with UBW.

How bout giving Saya no Uta a shot?

 

[Zenfalcia]

Nah, VN's are kind of a brief need that tends to pass by quickly, besides I'm playing P3P right now so that's something.

Fate/Stay etc. are ones we have been curious about since we finished catching up with UBW.

Well, if it stays for a while there's a few VNs that are worth trying.

Fate/stay is a good one. It'll take a while to finish all the routes and the art might take a while to get used to, since it's fairly old.

 

[Xiraiya]

Fate/stay is a good one. It'll take a while to finish all the routes and the art might take a while to get used to, since it's fairly old.

I've seen the art, doesn't look that different from the anime and I've never cared for that style, but the story seems good enough.

 

[RecursiveFault]

The fan translation on the PC version of S;G seems great.

Yeah, I just like the idea of paying them for the show to support it somewhat without buying a $45 Blu Ray set. Also portability is appealing.

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Hey, by the way, check your PMs.

 

[Zenfalcia]

I've seen the art, doesn't look that different from the anime and I've never cared for that style, but the story seems good enough.

Mm.. the proportions are weird and sometimes the art is very dated. Nothing wrong with the story, since it's not affected by the art at all.

Look at it this way: You'll get the most gold from treasure chests among other things and these are scattered throughout the entire castle; enemies drop very little of value. Also, the longer you're fighting an enemy, the more chances it has to hit you, especially since you're rarely fighting only one enemy at a time. If you look at it that way, what would you say would be the better option: slowly try to kill every enemy in the room in an attempt to progress or dodge enemies and rush through all the areas in the castle and avoid enemies?

Also, there's better treasure the deeper you go.. it also depends on what abilities you have. Sometimes it's beneficial for you to kill enemies due to attributes, but i get what you're saying. I never really thought of it that way.

 

[Xiraiya]

Mm.. the proportions are weird and sometimes the art is very dated. Nothing wrong with the story, since it's not affected by the art at all.

Admittedly, both F/Z and UBW do a great job modernizing it while keeping most of the look.

 

[Alfebit]

Hey, by the way, check your PMs.

You should have given him one of those slug penises.

 

[Zenfalcia]

Hey, by the way, check your PMs.

Thanks.

Admittedly, both F/Z and UBW do a great job modernizing it while keeping most of the look.

They did quite a magnificient job, and they even kept the original designs without changing much. i remember a friend of mine griping about fate/stay night's orginal anime being pretty bad for anime standards. I should play the VN sometime eventually..

 

[RecursiveFault]

You should have given him one of those slug penises.

You gotta save the best for last

 

[Zenfalcia]

Most attributes have different uses. Some are just there to be stupid (like being color blind) or fuck you up (nearsighted or farsighted). What you'll focus on depends on what character you go with, but that's also why you have multiple choices.
Also changing avatars huh?

Well i'm specifically talking about lich being useful to kill enemies to gain health.

Yep. A bet's a bet.

You should have given him one of those slug penises.

He probably should've.

 

[Xiraiya]

He probably should've.

Do you want a cleaner render of her for your avatar?

 

[demidar]

I know. Like I said, there are some instances where you can change up playing style, but more often than not, speedy play is best.
What bet was that again? And hey it's fine,

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Yukari (maybe second) best girl anyway =P.

Spellsword is probably the best class anyway, weak health but gains MP per hit which means massive killing power (especially with multi-hit chakrams).

 

[Ultimate_Trainer]

Well i'm specifically talking about lich being useful to kill enemies to gain health.

Yep. A bet's a bet.

Good avatar Zen. Yukari is a pretty well written character in P3 and I loved her in Ultimax. Its a shame that most people hate her.

 

[Xiraiya]

Did it anyway, threw in an alternate because why not.

 

[RecursiveFault]

Did it anyway, threw in an alternate because why not.

Nice, the only source I could find of Yukari's annoyed expression was a 500x600 JPG, which took way too much effort for the mediocre result.

 

[Xiraiya]

Nice, the only source I could find of Yukari's annoyed expression was a 500x600 JPG, which took way too much effort for the mediocre result.

Yeah, I've been collecting Persona art

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Mostly all of it was ripped out of P3, 4 and Arena

 

[Alfebit]

Nice, the only source I could find of Yukari's annoyed expression was a 500x600 JPG, which took way too much effort for the mediocre result.

I like the shit version better.

 

[Okingjrr]

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Hum, that Korrasami avatar. Yum.

 

[RecursiveFault]

Yeah, I've been collecting Persona art

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Mostly all of it was ripped out of P3, 4 and Arena

Hey, me too

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(I'm joking, but that's cool.)

Persona 4 spoilers

 

[croten]

People talking about Fate/Stay Night? Go play that shit right now. While the current anime is fantastic I think it's better to play the game first as the anime is based on the second route Unlimited Blade Works and there is stuff that is kinda important in the first route Fate.