I don't know what it'll achieve? I'm a beginner and I guess you aren't.
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Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U DLC |OT2| Lucas comes out of Nowhere!
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I don't know what it'll achieve? I'm a beginner and I guess you aren't.
Karsticles
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Probably just a troll.
Out_Of_Ammo
Member
Anyone wants to play?
Shamrock7r
Member
I am just thinking misinformed
Well, the assumption is if you experience higher level play, it would put some of your arguments to rest, as some of the points you made just come from ignorance of not understanding the meta game.
If you are not willing to play against high level play, then your points are invalid.
Shamrock7r
Member
Nobody sees your For Glory record but yourself, so don't even worry about it. Play people on here vs CPU. You will get better quicker. One of the best things you can do is find some good videos of Marth on youtube, and try to mimic what a successful Marth player is doing.
Karsticles
Member
Better to play people than computers.
A fellow Salty Better, I assume? Hitbox scams were fun there, but the one meme I really liked from it was the whole mexican thing, including mexibeams and El Presidente. I still log in every now and then for old time's sake, even though SB is a shadow of its former self with barely over 100 people on at most times.
With what I've learned today, Pac-Man's grab isn't only slow, short-ranged and with far too many inactive frames after it ends, but it also misses thin opponents at point-blank range. Sakuraaaaaaaaaaaaai!
Karsticles
Member
I will never understand Bowser's Down b. Spam the shit out of roll and get shield broken.
Astral/H3X
Member
Agh underestimated the blast radius and blew myself up, costing me the match.
Snacks the sober sea lion
Member
Level 9 computers basically cheat. It's nearly impossible to hit them in the air, they'll always airdodge.
Karsticles
Member
Lol, I can't believe how much I am SDing.
Astral/H3X
Member
Man I feel like I am wrecking For Glory right now. Anyone want me to send a few replays for commentary?
Karst, Sham, I think you're being overly harsh to a potential new player. He's right that he should probably play against someone with a closer skill level to him than Sham.
We won't be getting new players if we gather together as a clique an label them as trolls or people who "don't get it" as soon as they refuse to play a SmashGAFfer who us regulars know does well at competitive tourneys. It's unlikely he'll be able to pick up on the subtle strategies, mindgames and reads that make up competitive Smash if he still doesn't have his basics down, and his experience of playing with a full-fledged competitive player will amount to getting thrashed without even understanding why.
Karst's training of a now stable Fox player sounds a lot more likely to help a new player than asking them to play you and telling them you won't be holding back, since that'll often lead to them getting 2-stocked over and over until they quit in frustration.
We won't be getting new players if we gather together as a clique an label them as trolls or people who "don't get it" as soon as they refuse to play a SmashGAFfer who us regulars know does well at competitive tourneys. It's unlikely he'll be able to pick up on the subtle strategies, mindgames and reads that make up competitive Smash if he still doesn't have his basics down, and his experience of playing with a full-fledged competitive player will amount to getting thrashed without even understanding why.
Karst's training of a now stable Fox player sounds a lot more likely to help a new player than asking them to play you and telling them you won't be holding back, since that'll often lead to them getting 2-stocked over and over until they quit in frustration.
I think Karst said he's a troll because he came in to say that the game is slow, bad and unfun, and that he'll stick to two other unrelated games.
Astral/H3X
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Shamrock7r
Member
I feel like I've been very cordial with him. If someone who is not informed keeps shooting down my explanations, I don't see another way of helping besides playing them and showing them what I am saying.
It's better to practice these things with other players than Level 9 cpu, especially because CPU cheats!
Also, I main Marth so if you want help learning him let me know!
Karsticles
Member
Cronoc, you always leave me completely unsatisfied. GGs. You can really feel Mewtwo's weight in that set.
Also, most importantly, Smash isn't a fighting game.
Aww man... my b. Good games though. For some reason I'm just not comfortable with dash slash, I'm not doing proper shenanigans like I would have before I left. I'm not really doing much with Bowser's klaw or dash slash really, it's like I have to be reminded they exist. Don't know what's going on with me. I take it you didn't like that I gave you a sympathy stock on what was supposed to be the last match?
Also, did the patches since late May completely prioritize the host or what? I don't think you got to choose a single stage the whole time we played.
Edit:
Do you have an ethernet connection on your Wii U? A fighting game like Smash needs a good connection, and can't compensate for lag like Splatoon and Mario Kart do.
I only just learned that the Gerudo Valley remix is also in the Wii U version, so now begins the music grinding to get that cd.
Anyone know the fastest way to get music? Right now I'm doing the Masterball thing where you set the game to high speed and item rate and wait for Mew, but it's pretty slow.
Anyone know the fastest way to get music? Right now I'm doing the Masterball thing where you set the game to high speed and item rate and wait for Mew, but it's pretty slow.
Crazy orders and always pick whatever challenge has a CD
Astral/H3X
Member
Hot damn, I wish that the replay channel had more options, like saving the replays or finding out who was involved in them... Just saw an AWESOME Peach that'd I'd love to see more of.
Out_Of_Ammo
Member
Anyone wants to play?
Karsticles
Member
If I SD,that is on me.
I also forget Klaw exists. I overrely on Dash Slash.
I choose random, so you always get stage pick.
Astral/H3X
Member
I'm gonna send a bunch of you guys a few replays, if anyone watches them and tells me what they think, I'd appreciate it.
Snacks the sober sea lion
Member
I can play.
Hmm, don't they at least show nametags? I remember getting a PM on smashboards from a dude that had watched one of my replays before. Kinda weird I guess, but there's always the chance you can find what you're looking for with a cursory google search.
Haven't really looked at the replay channel myself though, surprised to hear there's no way to follow a specific player.
Okay you can host!
Karsticles
Member
I don't know her well, but when you charge it, does the angle change? I also noticed some folks would start it, air dodge cancel, and then it was just a freebie item to hit around in the neutral.
Out_Of_Ammo
Member
Is anyone here going to play Rocket League?
NamikazeBurst
Member
Dash slash is easy to over-rely on. It's his safest approach. Without it approaching is really problematic. Like... SHADC, jumping fire breath, fair (hope you don't get grabbed) to jab, run up and grab... all risky.
Forgot to complement you on your spacing, you were just pixels away from my ftilts all the time, and you punished those whiffs with nairs pretty consistently. I have no idea how long to shield that move and stupidly tried to spot-dodge way too often and you were able to capitalize on that. Bowser's slow aerials hurt cause true combo or not, I'm not getting out of it. Would love Luigi's nair...
Karsticles
Member
We'd all love Luigi or Yoshi's Nair, haha.
Thank you for the compliment. Just practice shielding the entire Nair, and then work from there. I noticed you spot dodging it a lot - happens. I actually ran in to bait your spot dodge, you spot dodged, and then I forgot to punish it. -_- I think you might over-rely on SHADC a bit.
We'll do another set soon. I still have far too little Bowser experience.
NamikazeBurst
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I only had access to the Mewtwo customs glitch for a day before it was patched out. I was hoping to use it in Crazy Orders a lot more than I was able to. It made it so easy!
Still looking to play.
If you asked me, I'd label Smash as a platformer fighting game, if anything, due to the focus on movement and "not falling off" compared to most other traditional fighting games.
I agree that it gets boring to hear that, but I prefer ignoring it. If the user happens to be a troll they'll leave after not getting a response, and if they're genuinely looking to get into Smash they will get over the whole "Is Smash a real fighting game?" thing over time.
Regarding lag, it's easy to understand that people might say "But Splatoon and Mario Kart don't lag!". Very few people actually know the differences in how you'd handle synchronizing a game with looser interaction compared to a fighting game, which tends to require frame-perfect synchronization (hence the game slowing to a crawl in Smash to keep the frames synched, as opposed to dropping frames when lag spikes occur like in Mario Kart). As vexing as it might be at times, I'd say it's perfectly understandable for most players to be unaware of the factors that make game X's online look "worse" than game Y's.
Well, except that playing against a top player when you're a newbie isn't something you can actually learn anything from. You'd be 2-stocking him for days to prove what? That there isn't that much lag? That Smash is a fighting game? That it's fast? That it's a deep game? Most likely, he'd get frustrated at being unable to lay a finger on you, and might quit the game for good simply because he challenged a competitive-caliber player to an all-out match while he's still trying to get used to the basics of Smash.
Perhaps a ranbats player from one of the lower ladders would be a more appropriate opponent for introducing him to Smash while also giving him a fair challenge.
I have an "Add me?" tag for those kinds of opponents, and many of them tend to do so when I ask. But then it gets harder to arrange stuff since I don't know how in the world the WiiU's message system is supposed to work...
I can play some Namikaze, I'm ready to rage against the Yoshi.
Karsticles
Member
My friends list has been capped for months. I have to delete folks on here to make room for other folks on here.
Also, one of the things Zamm said is that this game is slow. Playing a top player here will prove that wrong.
Also, one of the things Zamm said is that this game is slow. Playing a top player here will prove that wrong.
NamikazeBurst
Member
It is Green Mario Monday, though. I can throw a couple Yoshi matches in if you want.
Unless they play camping custom Villager, that is.
Out_Of_Ammo
Member
Same and it's fucking annoying. Adding people for Splatoon was hell. I really wish Nintendo would up the limit on the friend list...