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Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U DLC |OT2| Lucas comes out of Nowhere!
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NamikazeBurst
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GGs, Karsticles. I would say I did better with Yoshi this time. Maybe I did better because I didn't go for as many Egg Lays? I am sure that is at least part of the reason. Lots of powershield practice when I was using Luigi and Sheik. Luigi definitely did better, but you acted like a level 9 CPU at some points against him 
Karsticles
Member
SMASHGAF RANBATS:
This summer has been pretty busy for me, and I am sure it has been for you, as well. As such, I'm pushing the final due date for all matches to be completed to July 26th.
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GGs Nami. Looks like I am improving on the Yoshi matchup. Still don't have a firm grasp on Luigi. Hate that fucker's roll spam. The number of times I died trying to gimp you because your down B traded is ridiculous. That move needs a serious priority nerf.
The only thing I can't handle with Yoshi now is the eggs. Please advise.
Also, you got a glimpse of the new style I have been working on. Lots of aerial maneuvering for Shadow Ball. I am still working on it, but I am confident that it wins a lot of Matchups, and no one else is doing it.
This summer has been pretty busy for me, and I am sure it has been for you, as well. As such, I'm pushing the final due date for all matches to be completed to July 26th.
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GGs Nami. Looks like I am improving on the Yoshi matchup. Still don't have a firm grasp on Luigi. Hate that fucker's roll spam. The number of times I died trying to gimp you because your down B traded is ridiculous. That move needs a serious priority nerf.
The only thing I can't handle with Yoshi now is the eggs. Please advise.
Also, you got a glimpse of the new style I have been working on. Lots of aerial maneuvering for Shadow Ball. I am still working on it, but I am confident that it wins a lot of Matchups, and no one else is doing it.
commanderpepper
Member
Sorry I had to go. I gotta play a ranbats set right now. GGs, it was a lot of fun.
Alright, ggs
NamikazeBurst
Member
I only roll spam with Luigi against you. Seems to be one of the only options I have against Shadow Ball that actually allows me to deal damage. Down-B also seemed to be the only move that allowed me to edge guard you. You just have to mix up whether you are vertically or horizontally recovering. You pretty much always go for the vertical down low recovery but I can't usually get you down there, but down-B allows me to put a wall in your way.
You seem to handle eggs fine. I didn't get any kill set-ups off of them. You can't really do anything against them if you stay on the other side of the stage charging Shadow Ball. You can jump, AD, and reflect, but that doesn't really stop me from throwing more. To stop me from throwing them, you just need to keep me at mid-range or closer. That way if they are reflected they can hit me, and the lag on them allows you to punish with a dash attack.
My biggest problem against Mewtwo with Yoshi is his nair. Jumping back can sometimes work, but the move seems to come out so quick, and really isn't punishable unless you land on me. I take so much damage from nair and its follow-ups.
Was this what you were doing when I played Sheik?
Karsticles
Member
Nah,vs. Luigi.
Karsticles
Member
I just played about 20 matches against the best non-ZeRo Sheik I have ever seen. Goddamn. Went by t0mmy, and I think I won 3 out of that set. No hope at all for Mewtwo in that matchup, lol. I now understand why people complain about Sheilk's up B. Total BS.
Yea, her up-b is stupid. The little hitbox at the end messes me up every single time so I can never punish it. It's just one of many stupid things she has going for her
Cyberman65
Member
t0mmy was the Pichu main from Melee that everybody knew, if that means anything.
Karsticles
Member
That seems okay to me, but the invincibility on startup is insane. I went to Nair gimp Sheik so many times and died because it must be invincible crazy early on...
Does it mean something? This guy was nuts, though. He had Sheik combos I didn't even know existed. I played him for 20 matches because he was crazy good, and because he didn't camp and spam needles. I pretty much stopped using Shadow Ball after a while.t0mmy was the Pichu main from Melee that everybody knew, if that means anything.
Edit: I did get one Dair spike on the 1 frame of vulnerability before Sheik grabs the ledge. Felt like a boss. Still lost. :-(
Snacks the sober sea lion
Member
I don't know if Sheik is vulnerable at any point during her up b other than the 1 frame of ledge vulnerability. And it has no landing lag. And it has a hitbox that KO's. And a hitbox on reappearing. Completely bananas.
Anyone looking to play?
Anyone looking to play?
Karsticles
Member
Nah, it has some landing lag. I got a few dash attacks off on it.
Smash Boards says she's intangible on frame 19, but that still seems late for my experience.
I'll play for a little while. My wrists are kinda messed up today so I probably won't be playing super well
I'll just finish up on For Glory and I'll be ready then
It doesn't have landing lag if you land diagonally with it. Cancel the landing lag.
There are certain heights/angles where it has no landing lag for some reason. Doing one diagonally upwards from the ground, for example. From playing her a bit there's definitely decent startup before the invincibility (19f sounds a bit long though, can't say for sure) but there's so little animation associated with it that it's pretty much impossible to tell from the other end.
And yeah, that matchup should be nearly unwinnable for Mewtwo. If he didn't have a kill throw it'd be 10-0, easy.
Snacks the sober sea lion
Member
I should finish some work first, actually.
Karsticles
Member
Ah, thanks. Never played a skilled Sheik before, so I was doing a lot of learning.
#1 Mewtwo strategy: run around and randomly Nair.
That's...all I got in that matchup.
Alright cool
My internet seems to be pretty bad today for some reason, so probably better if I don't play.
Karsticles
Member
SMASHGAF RANBATS:
This summer has been pretty busy for me, and I am sure it has been for you, as well. As such, I'm pushing the final due date for all matches to be completed to July 26th.
This summer has been pretty busy for me, and I am sure it has been for you, as well. As such, I'm pushing the final due date for all matches to be completed to July 26th.
Bit of a late reply since I was out of town for a bit, but maybe I'll start seeing you at some NorCal events soon! Hopefully should be moving there around end of August or so. Also, yea I think my set with Poltergust in ranbats was pretty close. From what I remember, he hit me an absurd amount of times with 1-frame spikes at the ledge, which tilted things in his favor.
I've definitely managed to spike some Sheik's during their up-b, but I think it's a pretty small window just before the explosion, so you end up getting punished really hard if you go for it and miss.
Snacks the sober sea lion
Member
Doesn't seem worth it. They must have thought Sheik was incredibly weak in 4 player battles for her moves to all be so thoroughly ridiculous.
I think I have time to play now.
I think I have time to play now.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
I really appreciate this. You have no idea.
The Sarcastic Dude
Banned
I'm getting a Wii ethernet adapter. Is there any particular one that I should get? Should I get the official first party one are will the third party ones suffice?
Cool news for the ranbats, i always appreciate the the extra week
Oh this was ages ago, well anybody else wanna play?
Im ready if you wna a try again today
Oh this was ages ago, well anybody else wanna play?
Just make sure it's wii compatible and you're good
Karsticles
Member
<3
The ranbats ruleset (post 2 of this OT) has a link to the one I use, and I love it.
Snacks the sober sea lion
Member
For Glory is a desolate wasteland of people who think standing still and then rolling backwards is a good strategy.
Captain Rage Quit 69
Banned
Huh, would you look at that.
I don't regret anything, I feel better playing at my own pace for the time being and the competitive nature of ranbats really works me up and I wanna focus my drive locally for now.
Well, I asked if you wanted to play
Shamrock7r
Member
Bahaha, owning and taunting a guy named "RAPE TIME" in For Glory is quite fun
thecoolFNF
Member
I'm down for 2v2 as well
Snacks the sober sea lion
Member
Well, I asked if you wanted to play
That sounds stupid. I have a bunch of stuttery, campy Lucinas to play instead.
That's exactly what I was doing!
thecoolFNF
Member
I'll play.NNID thecoolFNF
Cool, room's up
thecoolFNF
Member
Oops wrong stage
thecoolFNF
Member
Yea let's try again on a different stage
thecoolFNF
Member
That was a bit laggy
Karsticles
Member
Anyone for a set?
Cyberman65
Member
I'm up for some games. You can host.
Shamrock7r
Member
up for alternating? 2 on 1 off?
Karsticles
Member
Sure. Loser out?
One more for doubles?
One more for doubles?
Cyberman65
Member
Think my connection is being spotty tonight, sorry if its lagging. :/