Out_Of_Ammo
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Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U DLC |OT2| Lucas comes out of Nowhere!
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Yo, I'm here. You still around?
Karsticles
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Lets not forget that Abadango was literally 1 second away from being eliminated because of customs.
Did you use Mewtwo? Curious about your thoughts on Ness.
Very few characters can deal with her safe aerials with their massive priority.
NamikazeBurst
Member
Yeah. That was kind of his fault though, because the only way for Angel to win was use that, so Abadango should've chose a better run strategy.
Phantom Flapjack
Member
Yep yep! You ready? You wanna host, or should I?
Yeah for a few games. Going for air dodge punishes a few frames too late with Bair/Uair/Fair/Ftilt/Utilt only to get killed by Ness's Uair/Nair because nothing is disjointed is maybe the most frustrating thing ever. Definitely not a good matchup, but it feels manageable. I don't have the patience for it though, too much time spent sitting around waiting for Ness to do something.
Out_Of_Ammo
Member
My 3DS is just downloading an update, so go set up a room in the meantime. I'll join as soon as it's done. You ban any stages? I ban Lylat.
Also, do we have eachother added already? My NNID is Za_Warud0.
Phantom Flapjack
Member
I'll ban Halberd and Wuhu
Shamrock7r
Member
None of those matches save for one went below 2:30. I swear I am going to have to start saving matches.
Phantom Flapjack
Member
First match will be a lag test since we live so far away from each other.
Okay, not bad. Let's go!
Okay, not bad. Let's go!
Out_Of_Ammo
Member
Alright.
Some input lag but seems playable.
I'm not saying anything negative about you, I'm saying that there's literally no reason for me to try to approach because you Fairing defensively will stop anything I try. Just because neither of us are playing like it's evo finals doesn't mean I don't understand how the matchup should go.
E: Remember when I airdodged your Fair offstage and then got stage spiked by the end of it anyway because Mewtwo's tail was still in front of you? That's the kind of thing I'm talking about. There's no way for Mewtwo to move forward while that move is out short of teleport and that's uh... not a real option!
Snacks the sober sea lion
Member
Anyone looking to play now?
Out_Of_Ammo
Member
Alright, GGs! Man those SDs really hurt.
Phantom Flapjack
Member
No kidding, and at such low percentages too. Good games, though!
Shotgun Kiss
Member
I bought all the DLC for both Wii U and 3DS (except costumes) when it released, but I haven't redeemed it on 3DS yet, and I don't remember how. Could somebody point me in the right direction?
You get the 3DS codes on your WiiU purchase receipts. You can look them up in the WiiU eShop.
You'd better redeem them soon, since the cross-platform codes expire after some time.
I think you go to the eshop, go to settings, and there should be a redeem code option. Enter your DLC code there.
Karsticles
Member
Agreed completely.
Getting spiked on the tail hurts.
He isn't calling you campy. That is just how the matchup goes. Mewtwo has ZERO good and safe offensive options. So Mewtwo doesn't like to go on offense. Ness works best when he punishes offensive whiffs. So Ness doesn't like to go on offense. It is just kind of a passive matchup when both people are playing it properly. Especially for Mewtwo, because Ness is almost never unsafe, and Mewtwo has NO options outside of punishing without taking big risks.
Every Ness I play, the matchup is like that. Except for the terrible ones that never use Psi Magnet or dive into Mewtwo like he can't shield grab.
DDDSDs?
Snacks the sober sea lion
Member
I hope people start playing Ryu now. And Lucas.
I could do without Roy.
I could do without Roy.
Karsticles
Member
The next major will be interesting.
NamikazeBurst
Member
Where were all the Luigis? If he is top 5, and the easiest character in the game to play. then where was he?
EVO wasn't really surprising. Sheik, Rosalina, ZSS, Ness, and Mario were all known to be good. Abadango's Pac-Man was definitely a surprise, though, but that doesn't make Pac-Man high tier.n
Shamrock7r
Member
I think Pac Is underrated. His problem is too many of the highest tiers, like sheik and rosa, are really bad matchups for him. Overall though he matches well with most of the roster when used correctly
But I feel that Pac, while underrated, has several flaws that make him hard to win with, mostly his lack of KO options or easy confirms into combos, as well as his horrible grab and bad throws. It's for these reasons that I honestly can't blame Abadango for going with higher-tier characters for his top eight matches.
balladofwindfishes
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I don't think they are. At the end of the day they didn't even matter much, and that minor gain in characters used in the lower pools is not worth the hassle of implementing customs for every tournament.
Pac-Man's main issue is getting the Kill reliably and thus is disadvantaged by the rage mechanic.
Shamrock7r
Member
Not really. Little knock back and damage.
Look I'm not saying Pac is perfect guys, lol. I know his weaknesses. Just saying he is underrated
NamikazeBurst
Member
He is also incredibly unique, like Mega Man, and not many players put time into him because of that. I have never seen a Pac-Man like Abadango, just like I have never seen a G&W like Regi. Pac-Man can be very good in the right hands. He definitely isn't low tier, but he still has some weaknesses. How does Pac-Man handle the Villager matchup?
Snacks the sober sea lion
Member
Where are Cyberman and Flux? I assume Cyberman is still at EVO, I guess.
I don't really understand why Sonics like them struggle, yet there are so many (non-6WX) Sonics who seem to be enormously successful spamming side B back and forth for 6 minutes.
I don't really understand why Sonics like them struggle, yet there are so many (non-6WX) Sonics who seem to be enormously successful spamming side B back and forth for 6 minutes.
Karsticles
Member
Where do you get the idea that customs are here to stay?
Tier list will undoubtedly change after Evo, but we'll be getting another balance patch in, at most, 1 month. I expect a massive upheaval of the tier list after Sakurai reflects on this weekend's results.
You can only have so many people at the top. Sometimes it's just a matter of no one noteworthy picking up a character.
Most characters don't have combos past the early %. I don't think Pac-man is bad so much as that there are a few characters in their own league right now.
Yeah, not all characters have the same "get out of hell" options". Pac-man has a good Nair and Up B instead of shield grabs, and that's fine.
I don't think Flux went to Evo...or if he did, why is he playing people here still?
Cyberman struggles because he uses the full Sonic character. In terms of general gameplay, Cyberman is really good. The problem is that he doesn't spam the cheap stuff, and that means he is less effective.
So nobody wants to play?
Tired of laggy for glory
I think they're staying because they came and went. Nobody can argue that they completely change the game or make some character ss+ tier.
Tired of laggy for glory
I absolutely disagree it's not worth the hassle. At the end of the day they make all characters better but there's no one that's gonna dominate against anybody. Every character needs all the help it can get to fight moves that are so bullshit like vanish and bouncing fish.
I think they're staying because they came and went. Nobody can argue that they completely change the game or make some character ss+ tier.
I'll play if you want
Great! I'll host
NamikazeBurst
Member
That must be why Yoshi wasn't there.
Not.
Yoshi wasn't there because he gets beat by a lot of the other high tier characters, and good luck in the Sheik match-up. Yoshi wasn't even in top 32, never mind 16.
Shamrock7r
Member
1v1 anyone
Snacks the sober sea lion
Member
I'm ready to play Ryu or something.
Shamrock7r
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Shamrock7r
Member
Nope
I suppose the natural progression would be to play online. Will I get hammered, or is there a system in place for less-than-fantastic brawlers?
Ya can't go deep with that custom dude
Captain Rage Quit 69
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In America, I believe he was upper-mid or high tier because ESAM was doing ridiculous shit with him and he had a 0-death chain grab on characters like Fox.
Japan didn't have any Pikachus near that level, so he wasn't considered as good.
Edit: Also, I believe people said he was one of the closest to have an even matchup with MK and he could do a shitton of down-B off stage before having to recover. Despite his positives though, he was really hard to do well with and I believe only ESAM was able to consistently place high with him.
"Deep"
Hahaha was cancellingn out of the doub jump too fast though
Well there's two main online modes.
For Fun which allows items, Free For Alls, All stages etc.
For Glory has no items and only Omega stages (Final Destination versions of all stages) Only 2 stocks for 1vs1 and Time matches for 2vs2
For Glory players arent that good, so if.you practice enough you should do okay, there's no matchmaking though, every bow and then you can run into a really good player. (I ran into Ac3star once didnt even realize...)