Shamrock7r
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Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U DLC |OT2| Lucas comes out of Nowhere!
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sure. I will host up
Captain Rage Quit 69
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So did half the people who posted during pre-release Smash hype threads just disappear or something? :O I feel like we took over the OTs to conduct matchmaking.
Shamrock7r
Member
I forgot to ask you the other day, what do you think I should improve with my Mewtwo?
Ah, I see.
They looked forward to the game, but they probably didn't intend to play online competitively.
We've had that discussion when the dlc speculation thread happened. People prefer to talk and theorize rather talk about the actual game
People are also put off by the match making
Karsticles
Member
Did you get to have the joy of facing Sonic?
It happens with every fighting game release. Video games are a form of entertainment for most people. They want to be entertained with minimal effort. Like a passive movie. Pre-release entertains them with funny pictures and character reveals. When the actual game drops, it is too much effort, so they move on to be passively entertained by something else. This is the status of the common man.
Another echelon wants to be challenged, and overcome challenges. These people stick around post-release, and spend most of their time honing their skills to better compete and overcome challenges. These are the people that stick around in an OT after the first month. It isn't a Smash phenomenon, it is all games, and especially all fighting games.
Shamrock7r
Member
Nah Flux is on a random phase right now. I did play some FG sonics and did good
Captain Rage Quit 69
Banned
Hmm... I still say that one day we should all just gather and play some goofy casual matches. I'd like to see Karst in my legendary custom stage "BOX" >
NamikazeBurst
Member
Hmm... I still say that one day we should all just gather and play some goofy casual matches. I'd like to see Karst in my legendary custom stage "BOX" >
"Sonic speed"?
Yea dude that'd be awesome! I've got a couple of videos to upload later where I fight a really good Falcon. He had great spacing and approaches, but I just found ways to outplay him.
Karsticles
Member
I am good to be goofy. :-DHmm... I still say that one day we should all just gather and play some goofy casual matches. I'd like to see Karst in my legendary custom stage "BOX" >
Ah, cool. Are you going to put a lot of effort into him to show me up?
Hm, can't really recall. All I remember were the relentless Shadow Balls being annoying to wade through. Seemed like you were doing alright.
Shamrock7r
Member
I am good to be goofy. :-D
Ah, cool. Are you going to put a lot of effort into him to show me up?
I've decided to pick up a few more characters as I am pretty comfortable where I am at with most of the ones I play as. Unlike some here, it takes me forever to get good with a character so I have to take it slow and only do a couple at a time, lol
Captain Rage Quit 69
Banned
I think you just had the luck of picking a character with a high skill floor. I'm suffering the same thing with Sheik right now, and I know the only thing that keeps me alive with her is sheer fundamentals. :/
Can't imagine what it'd be like to pick up Diddy seriously in this post-patch world.
Shamrock7r
Member
It was a long time coming to be honest. My mains have always been Ness and Link in the 3 previous Smash Bros, and this is the first time that Ness is genuinely good, and Link is not at the bottom.
Shamrock7r
Member
Karst let me know when you want to play my Mewtwo some time so you can give me some pointers
Karsticles
Member
Captain Rage Quit 69
Banned
But Link was a solid mid-tier in Melee for what it's worth, and Ness...well, at least you weren't a Kirby main during those dark years...
Edit: Karst, I know you go to Smashboards every so often. Are there Mewtwo mains who you could say are stronger than you? Ignoring Trela, if you wanna call him a Mewtwo main.
Shamrock7r
Member
Kirby had Smash64, and was decent enough in Brawl
lolez2matt
Member
Playing with you guys hyped me again with this game. Today I Will be online for some friendly matches and Learn more.
Shamrock7r
Member
Maybe. I am going out so we will see
Captain Rage Quit 69
Banned
For sure, I don't deny that, but I'm saying Ness at least wasn't the absolute worst in Melee.
Honestly, if they nerfed his speech so he only said "PK Fire" every three side-B's I would be perfectly happy.
I'm making my own fan tier list for fun, and it's really hard to decide how to rank a bunch of characters in the middle. Everyone is bunched up in the center. >.<;;;
Shamrock7r
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Yea, I think overall, against most competition, from mid tier up (and even a few lower tiers), you can do extremely well. I won most local tourneys with Ness in Brawl back in the day, and I regularly placed high in the ladders online. I think the consensus of Ness was he was at the 2nd or 3rd lowest tier
Grab release shenanigans hurt.
Shamrock7r
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Don't remind me...
Karsticles
Member
Trela just played him to collect a bounty, I found out.
The other Mewtwo mains I know of are Logic, Nature, and Raykz. I am not big on saying who is better or worse than me. Raykz made it out of pools at Evo, though, and works really hard. I haven't been impressed by Logic, and he only used Olimar at Evo. Maybe he gave up. Nature is pretty good, though.
Playing with you guys hyped me again with this game. Today I Will be online for some friendly matches and Learn more.
I might play now, if you are available.
Wyndstryker
Member
Last game, parents pulled a surprise trip out of the house on me and need to drive them
GG's. Your Mewtwo doesn't seem as aggressive as Karsts, thats how I see it from my very nub standpoint lol
GG's. Your Mewtwo doesn't seem as aggressive as Karsts, thats how I see it from my very nub standpoint lol
Karsticles
Member
Shamrock or Matt, want to play?
Captain Rage Quit 69
Banned
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[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/5aEUy8u.png[/IMG]This is what I've been able to come up with so far. The order within the tiers doesn't matter, God knows I don't wanna have to deal with that. Also, this is all assuming no customs. You guys wanna completely tear apart my opinions now or what? In my opinion, everyone in B or above can potentially win tournaments. C, you could see them in top 8. D, I don't think they have a chance.
Shamrock7r
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GGs Wynd
Shamrock7r
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This is what I've been able to come up with so far. The order within the tiers doesn't matter, God knows I don't wanna have to deal with that. Also, this is all assuming no customs. You guys wanna completely tear apart my opinions now or what? In my opinion, everyone in B or above can potentially win tournaments. C, you could see them in top 8. D, I don't think they have a chance.
Not bad. Lil Mac is pretty high for having so many bad matchups. Link is too low. He is a solid mid tier. Robin is too low. I'd put him/her in mid also. Lucas and Pac are a tier too high. I'd put Lucario a bit higher. The Pits don't have enough differences to really separate them that much. Brawler is not that high without custom moves.
lolez2matt
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Give 10 min and ill be ready.
Shamrock7r
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join up.
If you don't mind I'd like to go Mewtwo a few and then I will switch to my usuals after
Karsticles
Member
30 min with you.
Give me at least 5 against your Mewtwo.
Then you.
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This is what I've been able to come up with so far. The order within the tiers doesn't matter, God knows I don't wanna have to deal with that. Also, this is all assuming no customs. You guys wanna completely tear apart my opinions now or what? In my opinion, everyone in B or above can potentially win tournaments. C, you could see them in top 8. D, I don't think they have a chance.
Mewtwo too high, Palutena too low.
Shamrock7r
Member
You sound like a villain calling out the order in which you are going to kill your opponents, lol
NamikazeBurst
Member
Anyone want to play?
lolez2matt
Member
Want?
Captain Rage Quit 69
Banned
My bad, I forgot to mention Mii Fighters are the sole exception. Otherwise I wouldn't bother ranking them because I don't think any default Mii Fighter has been talked about as being worth using.
I put Mac up high because aside from his struggles with the top tiers, he still has incredible frame data, super armor and the KO punch. He has the advantage on Fox, I believe, and can probably tangle with everyone in his tier group.
I haven't fought Link in forever, and I haven't played a Robin that made me think he could reach top 8 yet. I have seen that replay of yours, but I couldn't help but wonder how Robin could deal with other characters.
I think Pac has great potential as Abadango has shown, though how much of that was because of customs I can't say for sure. You don't think Lucas is that good? I agree on the Pits, and honestly I agree that Lucario should be a tier higher after thinking about my experiences with him.
Can Palutena do well given her default moveset? I think Mewtwo has potential to at least do as well as characters like Greninja and G&W.
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This is what I've been able to come up with so far. The order within the tiers doesn't matter, God knows I don't wanna have to deal with that. Also, this is all assuming no customs. You guys wanna completely tear apart my opinions now or what? In my opinion, everyone in B or above can potentially win tournaments. C, you could see them in top 8. D, I don't think they have a chance.
I think pretty much the entirety of B/B+ here is super ambiguous and a lot of characters could move up/down, but I know for sure Greninja and Lucario don't belong on the same tier as Mewtwo.
NamikazeBurst
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My NNID is NamikazeBurst.
lolez2matt
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Done!
NamikazeBurst
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I have a room up.
lolez2matt
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That was laggy :/
NamikazeBurst
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Extremely. Let's try one more.
MaverickHunterAsh
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There are also the middle-ground people who still care about and play a fighting game long after it releases, but can't be assed to get involved in discussions about frame data and such.
That's why I'm generally more active/present when we're talking about announcements, new content, patch updates, and actual news than the in-between times when there's nothing much going on except matchmaking and super-detailed metagame discussion. I'm always watching the thread, though!Code:[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/5aEUy8u.png[/IMG]
This is what I've been able to come up with so far. The order within the tiers doesn't matter, God knows I don't wanna have to deal with that. Also, this is all assuming no customs. You guys wanna completely tear apart my opinions now or what? In my opinion, everyone in B or above can potentially win tournaments. C, you could see them in top 8. D, I don't think they have a chance.
Pretty good! I feel like you have Pac-Man, Lucas, Kirby (sadly), and Ryu too high with Lucario, Toon Link, Robin, and Palutena too low, but in general that looks pretty accurate to me. In my non-professional opinion, of course.
I also wonder if Roy should maybe be moved to A+. He's REALLY good and be basically makes Marth and Lucina feel superfluous all by himself.