You can't just port an animation onto a new model across an entire generation of gaming. It doesn't work that way. Undoubtedly, the old models served as a great reference, and Sakurai's team tried to emulate the style. It is all still done fresh, though. Even Mewtwo's voice was redone, even though it sounds identical to Melee. His team is just that talented.
They don't get changed for the same reason Dorf sucks still. Sakurai thinks there are devoted fans that will be upset if their character is changed. The only heavily revamped characters have been Bowser and Roy, right? As a Bowser main, I was initially upset by his changes. Roy is a clone, so everyone is relieved he got changed.
How about a bow character with no melee attacks? Lol
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I decided to put the roster together with colored backgrounds, and I thought it look pretty gorgeous. I can't wait for complete roster with all downloadable characters.
It would be nice if that F-Zero villain got the moveset, and Ganondorf was redone from scratch.
That would be an incredible insult to Hades.
I don't care about Black Shadow. I just want a new Dorf.
I don't care about Black Shadow. I just want a new Dorf.
Realistically speaking, none of that matters.
Why?I'd rather have 10 new Pokemon and Mario characters than Ridley.
Yeah, he makes Yoshi look less than top tier.Just had a Sonic rage quit while I was beating him with Mewtwo
Screw Metroid. I voted for Paper Mario.
Haha, wow. I lost to a Yoshi while going random and I was Zelda. I switched to Yoshi because I had to show this guy how the character should be played. He was doing it all wrong. I 2-stocked him as Yoshi, and then I 2-stocked him when he switched to Mega Man. He then switched his tags to "THX" and "SPAM". I didn't even employ anti-Tipster strategies against him. I was full aggressive mode. I hope he abandons Yoshi. Yoshi doesn't need people like him.
The fuck?
That's not true at all. Animation data isn't arbitrarily confined to a "generation." Tekken is notorious for porting animations wholesale from game to game, and there are still some untouched PS2 animations in the current WWE wrestling games. Melee animations are too old and wonky to port over, but Brawl and Smash 4 share the same animation aesthetic. Several returning characters have new or modified animations, but someone like Mario shares 99% of his animation set with Brawl.
I'd rather have 10 new Pokemon and Mario characters than Ridley.
If the model changes, you lose attachment points for the skeletal structure, or they shift such that the animation no longer works. Tekken works because they basically use the same model formulation for everyone, but Tekken has the shittiest animations in the fighting game realm. Even a TNA game like DoA looks better.
I think we are really scratching the bottom of the barrel when Mario #3 gets added in. It would be like adding NES Pit as a character. I don't dislike him because he isn't a villain. Inklings would be cool, for example. I can appreciate characters I won't play getting on. I just don't see why Paper Mario needs to be a character. Why not Paper Luigi, Paper Peach, and Paper Bowser, too? Doesn't that seem extremely lame to you all?
That's not a problem for Smash, though. The new models aren't so complex as to render Brawl's animations unusable. Just look at this:
Hmmm. I can't pretend to be able to see the fine differences, but I see where you are coming from. On the other hand, Sakurai has been clear that it is all done from the ground up.
I get all that, but you could do SM64 Mario and give him an up B that flies, a side B that is his running long jump (attack cancelable), a neutral B that gives him metal form, and a down B butt stomp, and he would be unique, too. Then do one for 3D World, Galaxy, etc. Gameplay can't be the excuse, because there are plenty of other options.
