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[SUPERJEM94]

Please no D:

Edit: His second hit sends the opponent ever-so-slightly farther away, meaning the dream is dead ;__;

Noooooo
I just hope that was the only thing that was patched out...

 

[Fandangox]

I will wait for the storm to settle for a bit before believing any buff/nerf claims.

Will wait for the community at large to universally agree on the changes.

 

[Beats]

Dantarion said there are 45 characters with changes with 17 untouched.

edit: Some final smashes count as "characters" in the data I guess?

 

[Captain Rage Quit 69]

As far as I can tell, no change to Sheik's specials damage wise or knockback wise in training mode.

 

[ffdgh]

Dantarion said there are 45 characters with changes with 17 untouched.

Peach is one of those 17 I think. Saw no differences unless they were extremely minor.

 

[Captain Rage Quit 69]

As far as I can tell, no changes to Sheik's grabs, but this is harder for me to test because the 3DS systems I'm using either have an inefficient circle pad or inefficient shoulder buttons.

Plus, I'm only one guy.

 

[SUPERJEM94]

https://twitter.com/_StylesX2/status/626929952437469184
Mega Man Buffs

Leaf Shield activates faster, Leaves spin faster and at low % it double hits when you toss it

And video by Styles as well
https://twitter.com/_StylesX2/status/626931086866710528

 

[Boney]

Nothing changed for Samus as far as I can tell

 

[Snacks the sober sea lion]

Can't tell who's been changed, feels pretty much the same.

Hyrule Castle isn't looking too attractive.

 

[Captain Rage Quit 69]

No Doc sheet stall, no change to tornado height, maybe an extra centimeter to Doc's up-B vertically. No damage changes, no knockback changes on his normal moves...

Things are looking kinda grim.

 

[Cyberman65]

Seriously annoyed that replays don't work. Wish Sakurai would let us play replays from old versions. :/

 

[Snacks the sober sea lion]

No Doc sheet stall, no change to tornado height, maybe an extra centimeter to Doc's up-B vertically. No damage changes, no knockback changes on his normal moves...

Things are looking kinda grim.

Doc isn't getting buffed.
Never ever.
Back to Melee.

 

[Captain Rage Quit 69]

Sheik's fair deals a flat 5% on strong hit when before it was more like 5.5%, may or may not have a frame or two of extra landing lag.

 

[Boney]

Charizard lost the second hit from his up throw, so it does 11% instead of 13% now

 

[Karsticles]

Robin run speed seems faster. Did her dthrow have almost no knockback before?

Can't find any Bowser changes. Mewtwo jab2 miiight start up faster. Jiggs Rest is still broken.

 

[Beats]

Is there a time limit for the new youtube upload feature?

 

[Geminosity]

Robin run speed seems faster. Did her dthrow have almost no knockback before?

No, that's a new change so now Robin's throw might be worth using

Is there a time limit for the new youtube upload feature?

Apparently it says "you may be limited to three minutes"

 

[Boney]

Robin's new throw :O

 

[Karsticles]

Robin runs much faster too, right?

 

[jnWake]

Any changes to the best character in the game AKA Black Yoshi?

 

[Wyndstryker]

Robin definitely feels faster and that throw is wow

 

[Captain Rage Quit 69]

Apparently we're getting reports that Sheik has actually received no changes, or if she did they're incredibly negligible.

I'll go test out Robin for myself.

 

[Boney]

Robin runs much faster too, right?

Yeah, seems both his walk and his run is faster, somebody call quote

So samus is back at worst 5 character

No changes to ike nor pit as far as I can tell. There's not many more I can actually vouch for tiny differences

 

[Wyndstryker]

Zelda's u-air and d-air feel different. Same goes for the speed/control of Din's Fire. Even feels a tad easier to do pivots with here.

 

[Ricky 7]

Charizard lost the second hit from his up throw, so it does 11% instead of 13% now

It never did 13%. It's still a 2 hit and still does 11%. His forward tilt tipper does 1% more damage though.

 

[Captain Rage Quit 69]

You guys are going crazy, Robin has no movement speed changes from what I can tell. Walk and run are identical between my two 3DS systems, I'm moving the circle pad at the same time and they cross Battlefield at the same pace.

 

[Mr. RPG]

Any changes for Marth?

 

[Karsticles]

You guys are going crazy, Robin has no movement speed changes from what I can tell. Walk and run are identical between my two 3DS systems, I'm moving the circle pad at the same time and they cross Battlefield at the same pace.

Really? Then Robin players need to shut the fuck up about her run speed.

What about her dash attack?

Could Fox always combo dthrow into fair?

Sorry, I am bored because none of my characters are loved.

 

[NamikazeBurst]

Any changes to the best character in the game AKA Black Yoshi?

I couldn't tell if there were any changes to Blue Yoshi.

I was testing Robin to see the changes you people were talking about. The character is ridiculously easy to do perfect pivots with. I was able to do 2-3 in a row, and I can barely do them with any other character.

 

[Captain Rage Quit 69]

Really? Then Robin players need to shut the fuck up about her run speed.

Could Fox always combo dthrow into fair?

Sorry, I am bored because none of my characters are loved.

That's DI dependent, if the opponent doesn't DI away then yes.

 

[Snacks the sober sea lion]

Fox could always combo into forward air at starting percents and up to almost mid percent on chunky characters.

Seems like the patch is mostly minor "fixes" and a bit of changes for characters who were overlooked last time.

 

[Captain Rage Quit 69]

Thirsty ass dudes took down Smashboards lmao


BTW Palutena's fair got a damage buff, 7% -> 8% call DQ

 

[Beats]

No, that's a new change so now Robin's throw might be worth using


Apparently it says "you may be limited to three minutes"

Hmm, that feels a little short, but the phrasing is odd so I guess I'll just wait till the servers are back up to see.

 

[Boney]

Lied about samus, seems homing missiles have a much faster acceleration I could be wrong.

Also maybe the bombs explode a little faster now not sure.

And grab has less start up it seems

 

[Geminosity]

Thirsty ass dudes took down Smashboards lmao


BTW Palutena's fair got a damage buff, 7% -> 8% call DQ

I also read before smashboards went down that her forward tilt now hits twice for 6%

 

[Crayolan]

Puff seems unchanged.

 

[Captain Rage Quit 69]

Lied about samus, seems homing missiles have a much faster acceleration I could be wrong.

Also maybe the bombs explode a little faster now not sure.

And grab has less start up it seems

Nope to all three.

Edit: Dataminer Dantarion has confirmed Mario was untouched.

 

[Karsticles]

Pac-man players, either your grab got fixed or you have always sucked at grabbing.

 

[Boney]

Nope to all three.

Edit: Dataminer Dantarion has confirmed Mario was untouched.

Gah, that was my first impression but others placebo might've gotten to me

 

[Karsticles]

Gah, that was my first impression but others placebo might've gotten to me

Did her jab always show up as a true combo in training mode?

 

[SUPERJEM94]

So anyone wanna make a small tourney since tourney mode is out?

 

[Wii Tank]

Now that the patch is out, does anyone want to play some random matches on the new stages? Like some FFA's with items and whatnot?

 

[Boney]

Did her jab always show up as a true combo in training mode?

Who's your dummy? Might combo on a tall heavy

Falco seems unchanged as well

 

[Cody_D165]

Possible placebo but Marth's aerial game feels quicker to me... I really wish we had patch notes.

Like I'm playing Marth and then when I switch to Lucina she feels different and slower.

 

[Karsticles]

Palutena's ftilt now hits twice. 6 then 4. That new?

So anyone wanna make a small tourney since tourney mode is out?

Now that the patch is out, does anyone want to play some random matches on the new stages? Like some FFA's with items and whatnot?

Servers are back up?

 

[Captain Rage Quit 69]

Wii Fit Trainer got damage buffs, dsmash went from 10% -> 12%
utilt from 8% -> 10%

 

[Wii Tank]

Palutena's ftilt now hits twice. 6 then 4. That new?




Servers are back up?

Looks like it. I was able to make a lobby online and join a For Glory FFA

 

[SUPERJEM94]

Servers are back up?

Yep, I actually just joined a random tourney that I found.

EDIT: so um... watch this video guys... https://twitter.com/mrconcon321/status/626943074581622784

 

[Fandangox]

Palutena's ftilt now hits twice. 6 then 4. That new?




Servers are back up?

Yep they are, I am browsing the tourney section right now.

"Salt Mine" lopl.

 

[Boney]

Palutena's ftilt now hits twice. 6 then 4. That new?

Servers are back up?

Definately

Are dark pit's arrow faster or is it placebo? Don't use him much so it might be placebo