How do people quickly run back and forth like that? I've never been able to do it by just flicking the stick quickly.
Also, anyone want to play?
Also, anyone want to play?
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thecoolFNF
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Anyone down for 2v2 against me and my bro? My NNID is thecoolFNF
Shamrock7r
Member
I will play
Also, uploaded a new video
Sham vs Wyndstryker. I reflected the Phantom Knight. Never done that before, lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vw5jMml3WrA
Karsticles
Member
Flick it faster. That is all there is to it. I can't do it for more than a second.
Yeah it was fun.
gg's everyone.
Just dash to one direction, and before the dash animation is over, dash to the opposite direction, rinse and repeat.
Just dash to one direction, and before the dash animation is over, dash to the opposite direction, rinse and repeat.
Hm, it's unfortunately laggy.
Yeah, tried that in training mode and it seems I wasn't doing that properly. I think there's something called the stutter step or something I was trying out instead.
Yeah, tried that in training mode and it seems I wasn't doing that properly. I think there's something called the stutter step or something I was trying out instead.
Karsticles
Member
Fox trot?
Yeah, that.
Ha, and that last match was awful, though there's a lot of stuff I was trying to do that weren't coming out. Edge guarding that again and again was dumb, though.
Shamrock7r
Member
Lol I figured you were just experimenting
GGs. You are hard to kill when you don't want to be KOed
GGs. What happened to our connection, though? It used to be much better than this; it's hard to make a real effort when things are kind of sluggish.
Shamrock7r
Member
dunno. Everything is the same on my end
Really? The connection used to be pretty smooth against you on my end, but the last time we fought and this time it's been really stuttery and there was even input lag going on.
Oh well.
Blackquill
Member
1v1 anyone ?
Shamrock7r
Member
I'm not feeling a difference so much in input lag. It has definitely been real stuttery though.
Lady Siara
Member
Been playing Smash since 64 and never knew that if Jiggly's shield breaks, she dies instantly. Apparently it's been a running gag since Smash 64!
Any other weird stuff like this I don't know about?
Any other weird stuff like this I don't know about?
thecoolFNF
Member
I can play. NNID thecoolFNF
Captain Rage Quit 69
Banned
Well they buffed like half the roster, with Game & Watch nowhere in sight. He must be the most balanced character in the entire game in Sakurai's view given that (AFAIK) he has only been touched in one patch so far (in an extremely minor way). Guess I just need to git more gud. saltsaltsaltsalt.
I heard a player did quite well with him at EVO, though.
But that's no reason for me to not want some buffs to Pac's grab, at the very least. I wish he'd either get more threatening with combo/kill throws, or at least get a buff on his actual grab animation, since having a crappy grab AND bad throws on top of that feels like too much of a disadvantage for him.
Blackquill
Member
Sorry for responding this late, are you still here ?
Karsticles
Member
Tons of weird stuff. ;-)
This is how they used to start tournaments in the 3DS Smash days, though. The streamer would pick Jiggs and shield SD twice.
You also learn it really quickly if you play Jiggs in For Glory, since Marth and Lucina players spam Shield Breaker against you.
Someone made top 16 with him at Evo, so he must be pretty solid. He has a lot of unorthodox tools. Windboxes everywhere, invincible usmash, invincible dash attack, might as well be invincible up B for recovery. You have to be careful with him in some moments, and then surprisingly gutsy in others.
thecoolFNF
Member
Yea I'm still here. Just add my NNID and I'll make the room
Edit: room's up
Zero's two cents on G&W
http://youtu.be/aGHe9KbG9Ak
I think his weight kinda sets him back, and I miss his brawl fsmash with the lingering hitbox, but overall yeah he's pretty good. Got a good buff with his back air as well
http://youtu.be/aGHe9KbG9Ak
I think his weight kinda sets him back, and I miss his brawl fsmash with the lingering hitbox, but overall yeah he's pretty good. Got a good buff with his back air as well
Tons of weird stuff. ;-)
This is how they used to start tournaments in the 3DS Smash days, though. The streamer would pick Jiggs and shield SD twice.
You also learn it really quickly if you play Jiggs in For Glory, since Marth and Lucina players spam Shield Breaker against you.
Someone made top 16 with him at Evo, so he must be pretty solid. He has a lot of unorthodox tools. Windboxes everywhere, invincible usmash, invincible dash attack, might as well be invincible up B for recovery. You have to be careful with him in some moments, and then surprisingly gutsy in others.
Mostly he's just a huge pain in the ass to play as online, because if you get hit hard 3 times that's a stock. Lag is incredibly unkind to him. I really need to find a local scene.
Thanks for the link! Going to be studying this dude intently
EDIT:
OK I actually didn't see anything impressive in that video. The first round pikachu was super thirsty and getting read. Second round cut right during G&W getting beat down. Pikachu is a pretty good match up for G&W. Fighting someone that you actually have to approach (Sheik, ZSS, etc.), someone with real rushdown skills, or someone that has better disjoint hitboxes than G&W (yoshi, bowser JR) feels completely futile.
thecoolFNF
Member
I guess we shouldn't pick that level. Was really laggy
Let's play a few matches.
I don't think I have you added. My NNID is FluxWaveZ.
Edit: Oh wait, is your name Fand? Huh, can't recall the last time we fought. Room's up.
Karsticles
Member
He's better than Jigglypuff.
thecoolFNF
Member
I guess we should end it at that. The lag is too stronk.GGs blackquill
Blackquill
Member
GG FNF, great-Ness, it's really a character that I don't know how to deal with
With all these characters buffs I'm afraid Jigglypuff will fall on the bottom 10 indeed :/
He's better than Jigglypuff.
With all these characters buffs I'm afraid Jigglypuff will fall on the bottom 10 indeed :/
Karsticles
Member
I don't know how I decided to focus on three characters that are all in the bottom half of the roster. -_-
He's better than Jigglypuff.
I don't agree, I think puff is pretty average while G&W is just bad.
Blackquill
Member
Hang in there, sooner or later, your favorite characters will get a buff. My five favorite are Ike, Greninja, Wii Fit, Marth and Jigglypuff and 4 of them got a great buff in the two last patches. Only Jigglypuff left
One thing that I think really works against game & watch that nobody talks about is the 2 stock format. He's designed as a high-risk high-reward character. If you amortize the risk of bucketing (huge end-lag), hammer (generally unsafe), and his overall lightness against more stocks, these risks become more worthwhile for their ability to take an early stock. If you get punished for some of these moves, you're down 1/2 of your stocks rather than 1/3. I think this could be compensated for by making G&W just a bit heavier. Only being able to use 1/2 of your moves once you're at 65% against some characters really sucks.
NamikazeBurst
Member
Then Regi must be the best player in the world to get 13th at EVO with G&W.
Cyberman65
Member
I heard he had an easier bracket than most people (not to discredit him), but I think G&W is still a solid character. I think he just has problems killing.
Karsticles
Member
See Nami's response.
Jigglypuff is slightly below average. She isn't bottom tier, though. Rest being garbage is part of that problem. She also just needs bigger hitboxes on her attacks (or a smaller hurtbox) - she trades with pretty much everything.
I want to think this is true.Hang in there, sooner or later, your favorite characters will get a buff. My five favorite are Ike, Greninja, Wii Fit, Marth and Jigglypuff and 4 of them got a great buff in the two last patches. Only Jigglypuff left
It's probably that as I am alone right now so no one else is using the connection, no problem though, Good Games.
Anybody wanna play?
The best G&W I know of is Gimr, you should check him out
He just shows footage of tourney G&W while he talks.Mostly he's just a huge pain in the ass to play as online, because if you get hit hard 3 times that's a stock. Lag is incredibly unkind to him. I really need to find a local scene.
Thanks for the link! Going to be studying this dude intently
EDIT:
OK I actually didn't see anything impressive in that video. The first round pikachu was super thirsty and getting read. Second round cut right during G&W getting beat down. Pikachu is a pretty good match up for G&W. Fighting someone that you actually have to approach (Sheik, ZSS, etc.), someone with real rushdown skills, or someone that has better disjoint hitboxes than G&W (yoshi, bowser JR) feels completely futile.
The best G&W I know of is Gimr, you should check him out
NamikazeBurst
Member
Easier bracket or not, once you get to a certain point in the tournament, a "bad" character will have a hard time even if the player using the "bad" character is better at the game, because the rest of the top 64/32 was mostly high tier characters.
I was watching GimR in a tournament on Twitch a few days ago. G&W didn't seem to have many problems killing. His up-smash is insanely good, and down-throw to up-air didn't seem very hard to get, and up-air kills pretty early. G&W might not be high tier, but he is at least in the upper part of the mid-tier characters.
Doominated
Member
Is there a good guide out there for beginners starting from the ground up?
I haven't played smash in a good 12ish years, and I was never very good at it to begin with. Never took the time to understand the mechanics of the game.
I haven't played smash in a good 12ish years, and I was never very good at it to begin with. Never took the time to understand the mechanics of the game.
To be fair, there were WFT players that got almost as high as him too, and she's probably even worse (at least pre-patch).
That's what I meant.
Maximillian's guide is pretty good for going over the basics. The video is also kind of a skit but you can just skip to the gameplay.
