Shamrock7r
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Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U DLC |OT2| Lucas comes out of Nowhere!
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agreed
Karsticles
Member
It will never be legal. Too imbalanced.
NamikazeBurst
Member
Peach's Castle?
Shamrock7r
Member
Yep. Legal at my tourney tomorrow! Finally some TOs with some sense
NamikazeBurst
Member
You can't be serious. When I played against you I made a huge comeback because I wasn't dying. Don't the two floating triangle blocks interfere with your back throw?
Shamrock7r
Member
GGs Karst
Karsticles
Member
Yeah. The bottom platform is too small and campy. I can see why Shamrock likes it.
GGs. No idea what I am doing with Rosalina. Tips?
Shamrock7r
Member
Karsticles
Member
You were really aggressive most matches, but on that one you definitely camped the bottom platform, and there isn't a good way to get down to you.
I know you play a character that can always attack from anywhere, but for most characters, that stage isnt well designed.
Blue Namagem
Member
Heya Karst! I see you're using Rosalina now. Oh, time for your Bowser, methinks!
Karsticles
Member
NamikazeBurst
Member
That, and having his opponents above him is a great position for Ness.
Blue Namagem
Member
Messed up, haha. Few more then I'm done, Karst.
Karsticles
Member
Was that crash bomber recovery intentional? That was incredible.
Blue Namagem
Member
Heh, thanks. Whenever I'm on a stage like that with a wall at the ledge, and I slip, I like to try to get a Crash Bomber in place to try and save myself
Last game for me tonight, btw.
Probably the thing that took the most getting used to for me when I started out playing Rosalina was actually focusing more on Luma's hitboxes rather than Rosalina's, and actually using them differently than Rosa's hitboxes.
Luma's attacks have really bad priority because all of Luma's attacks are pretty low damage, so pretty much anything you go for with Luma will just clash with any kind of hitbox from the other person, but since Luma isn't a part of Rosalina herself, the opponent's move will still hit you because Luma only negated the attack for himself and not Rosa. So you want to aim Luma attacks to punish things and Rosalina's hitboxes to challenge things.
Blue Namagem
Member
Ggs, Karst!
Karsticles
Member
GGs man.
Oh yea, I had a pretty hilarious kill on Dunnobro in our first game of our set. He plays Duck Hunt Dog. So he was at a pretty high percent on Town and City and I hit him with an up smash that didn't quite kill him yet. So he was off screen at the top of the stage coming back right towards the stage, while he had a can left on the screen on one of the platforms. Then not even really planning to do anything with it and just trying to get it out of the way, I u-air'd the can to hit it away. The can ended up flying straight up super fast right into him off screen at the top and killed him. I didn't even realize that happened until I heard him say "Oh my God..." and saw the blank look on his face as he died.
Karsticles
Member
I just two stocked a Sonic with Zelda. Lolwut
I'm so proud of you!
Karsticles
Member
I also 2-stocked a Kirby, a Sheik, and a ZSS. I have no idea what is happening tonight.
Zelda was top tier all along, just like Mini Sword fighter.
I was secretly training you to use Zelda all along and clearly I was a good teacher!
Just played Marth Dittos with someone on FG for well over an hour and it was sooooo much fun. Might've been because he only won 4 games but still, it was awesome! He had a really good Marth and he gave me some ideas about using Jab 1 setups.
I saved a couple matches that I really enjoyed, but where I played a little sloppy at times. Gotta see what I can improve cos this is really after getting excited to use Marth more.
Go to your friend list app and check recently played players, you can go to their miiverse profile from there and request.
I think you can also leave message to a player after an online match during the results screen.
You can (press X on the results screen, select their profile), but don't bother. With no way to communicate instantly (the "alert" that they've received a message is silent and won't be seen unless they hit the home button and notice the icon flashing) means one of you would have to set up a room for no reason, and the other would need to stumble upon your open room and join, without any communication at all. Not happening. Back when I started I had people friend request me and sent friend requests to a couple people. But I didn't understand how it worked yet...
Wyndstryker
Member
Zelda becomes Karsts new main.
I have a tag that's "Add me?" and tend to switch to that whenever I find a good opponent in FG and after sending them a friend request. It obviously doesn't work if they leave right away, but some of them have added me back.
Then there's the problem of actually arranging a match with them, since the WiiU's comment system is so backwards that you can't possibly have a conversation in a timely manner to get together and play.
Snacks the sober sea lion
Member
I don't understand Smash Bros. players' insistence on that we need MORE STAGES. If the price of having more stages is keeping Castle Siege, Halberd, and Delfino legal, then screw that. It's like if Counter-Strike rotated the map 45 degrees every round and had artillery that hit fixed locations. It wouldn't be insurmountable, right? That doesn't mean it wouldn't be completely stupid and decide rounds by sheer nonsense. I think Delfino is a fun stage. I like that I can get KO's at 30% with a single up throw to up air. But I'll still admit that's really goddamn stupid and should never happen.
It feels like Smash Bros. competition is stuck between vehemently wanting to be a "competitive game" yet still thinking with the party game attitude, that more automatically means better.
It feels like Smash Bros. competition is stuck between vehemently wanting to be a "competitive game" yet still thinking with the party game attitude, that more automatically means better.
Karsticles
Member
Completely agreed.
Delfino, Halberd, and Castle Seige shouldn't be legal stages.
I was undefeated until a laggy Sonic came about.
She is pretty great for stomping noobs, but she loses to Ness and Lucas like every other character that relies on an energy projectile. I actually enjoy Bowser and Jigglypuff the most these days, even though both are pretty bad.
But then I have problems with Rosalina. I use Mewtwo against her.
I basically have three characters I use in different matchups because they are all bad and I need to counterpick with everyone. It is a really unsatisfying way to play, though. This is the only fighting game that I counterpick in. In every other, I use one character 100% of the time. I would like to be able to do that here, too.
I have always loved Zelda, but she was just so bad. Now she is probably in the same league as the other three characters I use: can win against mediocre opponents, extreme struggle against people my skill level and above.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
Transforming stages have value in blowing up heavily defensive match-ups.
Custom Villager can't exactly rely on his ledge game all the time if the stage transforms regularly, occasionally disposing of ledges altogether in the process.
Exactly. I like more stages.
Though removing Halberd for better stages like Mii verse, Dreamland 64, and such is fine by me.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
I don't like long stage lists, but I do like varied ones.
There should be as many stage archetypes represented as possible as long as they're not too out there. Stage mastery is an important part of the game, and they have a big effect on match-ups.
What I'm not too fond of is when extremely similar stages (ex: Battlefield & Dream Land) occupy 2 of 5 slots on a starter stage list. And when you get to 3 or more legal transforming stages, it becomes impossible to leverage your stage bans to avoid them.
There should be as many stage archetypes represented as possible as long as they're not too out there. Stage mastery is an important part of the game, and they have a big effect on match-ups.
What I'm not too fond of is when extremely similar stages (ex: Battlefield & Dream Land) occupy 2 of 5 slots on a starter stage list. And when you get to 3 or more legal transforming stages, it becomes impossible to leverage your stage bans to avoid them.
Snacks the sober sea lion
Member
I at least say not Halberd.
My internet also seems to be working better. I don't know why or for how long. And I had just bought Bayonetta 2.
My internet also seems to be working better. I don't know why or for how long. And I had just bought Bayonetta 2.
Professor Beef
Banned
Started practicing with Pikachu last night. Almost seems unfair using him against Captain Falcon.
Also I wish the tornado on Hyrule 64 was a bit weaker, then it could be legal.
Also I wish the tornado on Hyrule 64 was a bit weaker, then it could be legal.
Karsticles
Member
I understand this. My issue with Delfino is that it is so campy. The various transitions often have a structure that results in two people sitting above/below a ledge and waiting for the flying platforms to come back. No one wants to make the disadvantageous decision to approach.
Halberd has hazards that come into play ALL THE TIME. Just last night I threw Namagem into the laser.
Castle Seige sometimes forces a SD during one of the transitions. I've even seen it happen in competitive play.
Started practicing with Pikachu last night. Almost seems unfair using him against Captain Falcon.
Also I wish the tornado on Hyrule 64 was a bit weaker, then it could be legal.
Probably Falcon's worst MU in my opinion.
Also Hyrule Castle seems like it'd be too big despite no Tornado to be legal.
Professor Beef
Banned
Isn't the Castle Siege thing something that is really convoluted and you have to set it up by grabbing someone? I don't see why you would need to bam it.
Karsticles
Member
It happens when you are knocked off right before the transition. You are "falling", but your opponent isn't, but during the transition you are both at the same height. When the transition ends, you are near the blast zone. It is such a weird experience. If Sakurai could fix that, it would be fine.
Or not paying attention during transitions. Not really needed to be banned. It's different from Halberd where RNG can fuck you up.
It's a big ass sword
Professor Beef
Banned
So you're saying it IS convoluted. OK then.
Karsticles
Member
It has happened to me twice. To me, that is common enough to ban the stage. /shrug