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Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U DLC |OT2| Lucas comes out of Nowhere!
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Karsticles
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I am indifferent.
Which part of Hawaii? If you're going to Oahu you should hang out with us here.
Snacks the sober sea lion
Member
I doubt some tricks will work since the physics are different between games, but I'm playing Lucas and hoping he has a lot of tricks anyway.
I just hope the PK fire momentum stuff is there still. It really made his zoning feel unique.
Yeah I would agree. I think he has the toolset to win matchups but the inconsistent hitboxes and his light weight makes it risky against the top characters, and those characters have no reason to fear Mewtwo unless they play super recklessly. He really could use more moves safe on block at the very least if they're going to keep him at that pathetic weight.
Karsticles
Member
Man I was really confused for a moment cause the last post was 4pm but its really late and stuff so I was wondering why the thread went dead... forgot I'm in a different time zone. I'm tired...
Anyway I hope to see a lot of analysis about Lucas from you guys, if I can't play him I at least want to know how competitive he is and what tricks people are finding with him.
Anyway I hope to see a lot of analysis about Lucas from you guys, if I can't play him I at least want to know how competitive he is and what tricks people are finding with him.
Oh, I just saw no posts for half an hour before I posted, so I guessed nobody was playing anymore. I can wait.
Regarding Lucas, I don't believe it'll be possible to judge him immediately upon release. Remember how Zelda was supposed to be the bee's knees soon after Melee's launch? That's what I mean.
Captain Rage Quit 69
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Hey Karst, if you're looking for a new character how about Dark Pit?
Now hear me out, he's not a real villain but he's not a real good guy either. More of a neutral dude who does whatever he wants and I don't know what you look for in a character playstyle-wise, but he has a good horizontal projectile and decent reach.
If not him, maybe Mr. Game and Watch? That dude is the closest thing to a demonic creature from another dimension in Smash.
Being mostly serious here.
Now hear me out, he's not a real villain but he's not a real good guy either. More of a neutral dude who does whatever he wants and I don't know what you look for in a character playstyle-wise, but he has a good horizontal projectile and decent reach.
If not him, maybe Mr. Game and Watch? That dude is the closest thing to a demonic creature from another dimension in Smash.
Being mostly serious here.
Karsticles
Member
GGs. Just started Metaknight and Bowser Jr.
G&W is one of the few characters I just don't like being in this game.
I like Dark Pit, but I can never make him work. I need a character that can maintain total control over the match in an aggressive way. I don't do well with hit and run or bait and punish character styles.
Join up!
I'd like to pretend SSE never happened, though. Why oh why did they have to end up using all those crappy, generic-looking enemies rather than real Nintendo mooks like they ended up doing in Smash 4's smash run?
Karsticles
Member
I am kind of digging Bowser Jr. If he doesn't work out, I will just stick with Bowser and Mewtwo. I could even just do Bowser 100% of the time, but my locals banned customs. :/
Spinosaurus
Member
Karst did you try Ganon? He's not the best, but he's not bad either. I think Gungnir makes a pretty good case on how terrifying this character can be.
Anonymous Tipster
Member
So, Yoshi?
Captain Rage Quit 69
Banned
TBH he might as well be a bad guy to most of SmashGAF.
Is the lag bearable for you, Karst? I('d say it's quite serviceable now.
Karst if you switch to Yoshi you're dead to me.
direct_quote
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He's already dead to me because he dropped Palutena, kappa..
Captain Rage Quit 69
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That Kappa looks more like a DansGame to me.
He did play Ganon for a bit iirc.
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Karsticles
Member
I really am fine with Bowser/Mewtwo, guys. I am not quitting or anything. Bowser 90% of the time, Mewtwo 5%, turn off the game if someone picks Sheik.
Too hard to adjust to after Bowser.
*picks Sonic*
I kid. Thank you for the compliment.
He has worse problems than Bowser in the same Matchups. Especially without customs.
You are the true villain of SmashGAF
Feels fine to me.
I would be dead to myself.
I got tired of waiting for Super Speed to come up and not having tilts.
Too hard to adjust to after Bowser."Thank you for showing me how unsafe I am."
*picks Sonic*
I kid. Thank you for the compliment.
I can confirm G&W is trash, no one should play him.
Less people that know what he does the better.
I think Cruel Smash 8 kills with Lucina unlocks a Vampire badge (gives you life-steal on hit), which is amazing for Crazy Orders. Also use the one which gives you temporary invincibility provided you land the first hit. For the 3rd one, some good choices would be the strongest attack up badge you have, a hp regen badge, or the badge that starts you with a home-run bat every round. The AI is awful so they'll walk right into your bat pretty often.
I'm cycling though my mains. Seems like Luigi has the highest chances of not sucking against you.
Back to Pac-Man, since I really want to see if I can get better with him, and that isn't something I'll achieve if I just run to my mains. At least I know I can best you (except for the part of getting Halber'd).
Back to Pac-Man, since I really want to see if I can get better with him, and that isn't something I'll achieve if I just run to my mains. At least I know I can best you (except for the part of getting Halber'd).
dang I haven't done that challenge. Sounds tough, but I'll give it a shot. The homerun bat idea sounds good. My current setup is just lots of attack with a critical hit badge.
Karsticles
Member
How does the custom trampoline work?
How should I recover from you ledge guarding with the ice balls? First time dealing with that.
Snacks the sober sea lion
Member
My internet seems to be working again, who's ready to play?
Karsticles
Member
Room is up.
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After playing Palutena for a while, I feel like I never use tilts when I play other characters... Which is bad...I got tired of waiting for Super Speed to come up and not having tilts.
Meteor trampoline buries on the ground and spikes in the air if you land on it when it's red, since it breaks (just like in Mappy!). The downside is that, unlike the normal trampoline, succesive bounces don't make me go higher, so if I don't make it in the first jump I'm as good as dead.
I don't know exactly how would Bowser go around fighting ice balls. I picked them especially because they get through Bowser's tough guy ability, and I never though they'd be such a good ledge pressure tool. Characters with fast aerials that have long hitboxes can stuff them and hit me through them, but I don't think you've got any of those (bair maybe, but you can't use that from the ledge).
If you wanted, we could experiment with that situation a bit some other time to see if we find any tools Bowser can use to reliably get out of it.
Even though I got demolished most of the time, I'm happy that by the end I managed to play decently with Pac-Man. I've got to say Bowser's really scary, and I can't help but shudder when I think what'd happen if you were running dash claw...
Snacks the sober sea lion
Member
Taking a break from Greninja until Lucas is out.
Ledge canceled Quick Attack into Thunder by accident, sick SD techs.
Ledge canceled Quick Attack into Thunder by accident, sick SD techs.
Karsticles
Member
That doesn't seem like a good custom choice, then.
I would love to experiment vs. Ice balls sometime.
No one ever calls Mewtwo scary.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
No one ever calls Mewtwo scary.
Hard to be scary when he can die to stupid shit or randomly SD if Teleport rubs the stage the wrong way.
On the other hand Bowser can be scary simply by existing. Something Mewtwo will never have.
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I do love Meta Knight when there isn't any lag.
I should get back into playing Ganon some more though. If only Flame Choke was untechable.
That doesn't seem like a good custom choice, then.
I would love to experiment vs. Ice balls sometime.
No one ever calls Mewtwo scary.
It isn't bad at all. I can already cover lots of range with forward B, and having to wait for several bounces with the normal trampoline is just asking to be gimped to hell and back because of the low priority and how long it takes to bounce three times. In return, I gain a potential kill setup that is very much appreciated for Pac-Man since he has so few reliable kill moves.
90% of the time I kill with smash attacks, loose hydrants or nairs/bairs really close to the blast zones (with the occasional key), which is why I've seen many top level Pac-Man players start using bells at high percentages to get enough time to score a clean smash attack (mostly usmash).
And I can't call your Mewtwo scary if you don't use it against me. <_<
Snacks the sober sea lion
Member
Karsticles disappeared mid-game, I have to do these SICK COMBOS all by myself.
I use ROB as a secondary but I don't know if I'm very good with him haha. I had some decently even matches with Oidisco and have beat some people with him too but I feel I can easily get shut down. I haven't tried customs with him much though.
You still around sugar?
dang, some peeps don't really like the OTs for this game huh.
I mean MaverickHunterAsh had that character census going and posted results regularly and people talked about that so it's not like talk besides match banter/discussions, or in depth character gameplay/mechanical discussions is unwelcome. I mean everyone here seems pretty friendly enough and not unwilling to talk about other stuff. whatever I guess.
I mean MaverickHunterAsh had that character census going and posted results regularly and people talked about that so it's not like talk besides match banter/discussions, or in depth character gameplay/mechanical discussions is unwelcome. I mean everyone here seems pretty friendly enough and not unwilling to talk about other stuff. whatever I guess.
Sure am.
Alrighty, let's give it a go. No customs is fine by me. No zard I guess