Sweet Baby Inc was the red herring. Collective Shout is the true enemy.

What is the bigger danger to hardcore gaming?

  • Sweet Baby Inc

  • Collective Shout

  • It is me OP, I am the danger


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I think the industry should ignore and get rid of both and similar / equivalent groups, plus to remove DEI and wokism from HR (and go back to the common sense of hiring and promoting the best candidates independently of their gender/sexual preference/skin color/etc) and their game design best practices documents (and go back to focus on what the players of each genre/subgenre prefer instead of in social engineering propaganda).

Regarding payment processors, somebody should make an alternative platform that would be neutral regarding political agendas and allow payments for anything that is legal.
 
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Crazy how the poll has such an even spread between Sweet Baby Inc, Collective Shout, and the Heisenberg Cosplayers.
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To quote someone far more intelligent than I,

"People are upset over Steam censoring games at the behest of the the payment networks. People are more upset over a feminist group in Australia taking credit, but this presents a good opportunity to raise awareness of the core problem: MasterCard, Visa, Amex, Discover, their payment processors, and the financial services industry."
 
Has the line been moved again? :pie_thinking:
No idea about the line, but i can tell u tons of conservative women are simply cosplaying as such and here i know polish feminist(she calls herself that simply coz is in favour of women voting) and yet she cooks, cleans, works electively(parttime job but her priority is house/children/garden) got married at 28yo while beling with her future husband from early 20s and under 5 bodycount, no colored hair or weird haircuts, no tatoos, no piercings except standard classy ones in the ears, believes her husband is genuine 10(he isnt but most important is she thinks he is, both in looks and overall rating), her way of "partying with her gfs' is garden party with kids, and when she goes on a "girls trip" she always takes her teenage daughter and actually does proper sightseeing, 0 clubs/nightlife etc ;)

There are very few western conservative women who are close to that while claiming being traditional/christian/conservative ofc, like i said, full on cosplay hahaha.
 
Collective shout or anything like it is probably worse, because going after payment processors is just more effective to exert systemic change than a few weirdos working at different individual game devs.
 
Collective shout or anything like it is probably worse, because going after payment processors is just more effective to exert systemic change than a few weirdos working at different individual game devs.
We are cooked, bro, i tell u, to me personally true benchmark gonna be next years gta6, will game make fun of both sides and be proper like previous entries in the series, or will it cenzor itself hard to cater to some1, so far both trailers look very promising but we wont know for sure till we actually play the game :)
 
After doing some research, these are not Conservative Christians. These are the same woke people as before. People need to learn that just because a group calls themselves Christian (Collective Shout doesn't, but one of the founder's other group does) doesn't mean that they actually believe in what the Bible teaches or are Conservative. Wolves in sheep's clothing and all that.

What surprises me is how quickly the credit card companies bowed down to an open letter.
What? The founder is a part of a fundamentalist Christian Church in Australia, and her activist group happens to be anti-abortion, anti-porn, pro traditional family. These are lock and step in line with the churches view on said subjects. How in the world do you get "woke" from this? What are you seeing that I am missing?
 
What? The founder is a part of a fundamentalist Christian Church in Australia, and her activist group happens to be anti-abortion, anti-porn, pro traditional family. These are lock and step in line with the churches view on said subjects. How in the world do you get "woke" from this? What are you seeing that I am missing?

he also thinks South Park became woke. so probably being Australian is woke now or something.
 
What? The founder is a part of a fundamentalist Christian Church in Australia, and her activist group happens to be anti-abortion, anti-porn, pro traditional family. These are lock and step in line with the churches view on said subjects. How in the world do you get "woke" from this? What are you seeing that I am missing?
Because on their website they say she is an ambassador for World Vision Australia. What I found out about them is they do claim to be a Christian organization, but are very pro-LGBTI and push "gender equality" and "racial justice." Those aren't exactly buzz words Conservatives use.
 
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Because on their website they say she is an ambassador for World Vision Australia. What I found out about them is they do claim to be a Christian organization, but are very pro-LGBTI and push "gender equality." Those aren't exactly buzz words Conservatives use.

depends on where you're from.
the AFD party in germany has a lesbian leader... many hard right parties around the world have female leaders...

maybe it's not a conservative buzzword in the US, but it sure is in some places. especially often used to go against islam, to highlight how islam is not compatible with western values etc.
 
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depends on where you're from.
the AFD party in germany has a lesbian leader... many hard right parties around the world have female leaders...

maybe it's not a conservative buzzword in the US, but it sure is in some places. especially often used to go against islam, to highlight how islam is not compatible with western values etc.
As far as I know, Weidel doesn't support the LGBTI community. There's a difference between being gay and supporting all the ideology pushed by the LGBTI community. Nor have I seen her say she's for "gender equality" and "racial justice." Those words have specific meanings and the views linked with those words are not ones Conservatives push.
 
As far as I know, Weidel doesn't support the LGBTI community. There's a difference between being gay and supporting all the ideology pushed by the LGBTI community. Nor have I seen her say she's for "gender equality" and "racial justice." Those words have specific meanings and the views linked with those words are not ones Conservatives push.

Dude, both ReasonBeing ReasonBeing and kevboard kevboard called you out.

Take your L, admit you jumped the gun, and were wrong and move on.
 
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Because on their website they say she is an ambassador for World Vision Australia. What I found out about them is they do claim to be a Christian organization, but are very pro-LGBTI and push "gender equality" and "racial justice." Those aren't exactly buzz words Conservatives use.
Very pro-LGBTQ because they state they "hire based on merit and don't consider sexual orientation?", which is what other fundamentalist groups chastised them for. Not being anti-lgbtq doesn't immediately equate to being "very pro-lgbtq."

Isn't hiring based on merit a core principle of the anti-woke sentiment?
 
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Very pro-LGBTQ because they state they "hire based on merit and don't consider sexual orientation?", which is what other fundamentalist groups chastised them for. Not being anti-lgbtq doesn't immediately equate to being "very pro-lgbtq."

Isn't hiring based on merit a core principle of the anti-woke sentiment?

You are not going to get a response from thismeinteil thismeinteil
 
Dude, both ReasonBeing ReasonBeing and kevboard kevboard called you out.

Take your L, admit you jumped the gun, and were wrong and move on.
The only people jumping the gun were those saying that was a Conservative organization, just because they say they are Christian. There is no rebuttal of the use of "gender equality" and "racial justice," or them distancing themself from the American branch because they decided to go against their LGBTI stance.

And just because you note a person on the Right is gay doesn't mean they support those ideologies. Gays and lesbians are also starting to feel fatigue of just being lumped into the LGBT community and people like you automatically thinking they should support all the gender and trans craziness just because they are homosexual.
 
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My question is why payment processors give a fuck what they have to say anyway. Like, nobody's gonna NOT use Visa/MC because they process payments for itch.
Visa got sued and a lot of bad PR from the Pornhub CP lawsuit. Visa is a well known name. They dont want to get sucked into another round of bad PR and expose themselves to potential liability again.
 
In the end money talks louder. If these agendas don't bring money, companies will abandon them.
Maybe they will try once or twice, but they can't keep failing, so I'm not worried.
 
As fertility rates of western and asian civilization keep cratering towards extinction levels, pornography production and consumption will be outlawed anyway. This is just canary in the coalmine.
 
I don't play games that collective shout go after, for all of you that do...

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Now Sweet Baby Inc, they are a fucking blight on the entire gaming industry and their policies and fucking skewed world view don't belong in the mainstream, sure go ahead and make your niche top scarred gender fluid romcom games nobody gives a fuck about but when you insert that shit into my games and make my characters have fucking retarded pronouns or make the female protagonists look like my da, then it's gloves off..

thankfully the pendulum is swinging back to where it belongs now that we gamers collectively told them to fuck off and the corporations who only listen to $$$ have reigned in their wee they/them fuckwits, things should go back to normal, tentacle rape game's I could care less about so fuck em
 
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