Slothbeing1209
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The Last of Us Pt II |OT| Oh Ellie...I think they should be terrified of you
Bladed Thesis
Member
JimiNutz
Banned
Fuck I found this early on (within the first 4 hours). It was just sitting on a table and wasn't hard to find but I can't remember the exact location. Sorry dude. If you're over 4 hours in you've likely missed it - not sure if there is another opportunity to pick it up later.
near
Gold Member
I'm about 4 hours in and I'm in absolute awe on the directing in this game. The way the camera pans in certain shots takes cinematic gameplay to a whole new level. The animation, sound design, graphical fidelity its all unbelievably well polished without a moment of jank in between. The story so far? Intense, I'm already emotionally invested.
Boris The Spider
Member
1st 4 hours minor spoiler and question
I am 4 hours in and in seattle, I found the short gun holster here, in the bank I think. I had assumed I haven't reached the long gun holster yet? I have still to do the courthouse, I was sweeping up side missions.
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when i was watching intro cinematics without subtitles i couldnt understand what people where saying and i was making like double volume on sound, still cant hear a thing ,,,and then when scene changes boom volume raises like wow, and then when talking again silent.... damn. start over game turn on subtitles, closed all windows , then its fone and dont try play game at day with open windows in bright room... in those dark areas room needs to be like pitch black then you will notice all details , otherwise you wont see a thing.
Geki-D
Banned
When you think about the amount of time that passes between game releases sometimes, it's insane.My dog Ellie at ~4 weeks old in 2014 and her today six years later:
PanzerAzel
Member
Damn. Ah well, thanks anyway. That seriously sucks if I bypassed it, the levels are so huge I’m sure I missed a shitload of stuff.
Plus trying to change the pistol is constantly fucking me over as ND (for some odd reason) changed the button to swap it from holding X to holding square, so every time I need to change I’m battling muscle memory from the original and getting my throat torn out by a Clicker. Need that double holster ASAP.
REE Machine
Banned
RDR2 is not a first party game
tassletine
Member
I’m outraged at the anti coffee joke.
And I laughed at the girls trying to open the Jar.
This game has a pretty good sense of humour.
And I laughed at the girls trying to open the Jar.
This game has a pretty good sense of humour.
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Steve.1981
Unconfirmed Member
Played up to Seattle day one.
I don't like the way the game just started, straight out the gate, rewriting the ending of part 1. No Dr Uckman, you can't just say that the Fireflies were going to make a cure. That's not how you wrote it, that's not how it went down. I know, I paid attention. They had no clue what would happen when they cut up Ellie's brain. They simply hoped and prayed, in their desperation, that it would lead to something tangible.
& then it jumped right into that bloody bigot sandwiches nonsense. How in the world could a bunch of professionals think that scene works. It's fucking laughably bad. Just hilariously terrible. I'm actually stunned that someone sat down & wrote it with a straight face. Bigot sandwiches!!!
Good lord above.
Everything after that was dull, uninteresting, badly written, poorly paced & clumsily executed. This is not the Naughty Dog I've come to know. It's quite a shocking fall from grace, to be perfectly honest. I've thoroughly enjoyed Last of Us 1, Uncharted 4, Lost Legacy. This just isn't working so far. I guess I'm only at the beginning, so it could pick up & the quality could improve, but I'm not hopeful.
At least the dodge is a very nice addition, so that's good. & the graphics are truly spectacular. But man, story was meant to be what this was all about & it's truly, depressingly bad.
I don't like the way the game just started, straight out the gate, rewriting the ending of part 1. No Dr Uckman, you can't just say that the Fireflies were going to make a cure. That's not how you wrote it, that's not how it went down. I know, I paid attention. They had no clue what would happen when they cut up Ellie's brain. They simply hoped and prayed, in their desperation, that it would lead to something tangible.
& then it jumped right into that bloody bigot sandwiches nonsense. How in the world could a bunch of professionals think that scene works. It's fucking laughably bad. Just hilariously terrible. I'm actually stunned that someone sat down & wrote it with a straight face. Bigot sandwiches!!!
Good lord above.Everything after that was dull, uninteresting, badly written, poorly paced & clumsily executed. This is not the Naughty Dog I've come to know. It's quite a shocking fall from grace, to be perfectly honest. I've thoroughly enjoyed Last of Us 1, Uncharted 4, Lost Legacy. This just isn't working so far. I guess I'm only at the beginning, so it could pick up & the quality could improve, but I'm not hopeful.
At least the dodge is a very nice addition, so that's good. & the graphics are truly spectacular. But man, story was meant to be what this was all about & it's truly, depressingly bad.
TissueBox
Member
Played up to Seattle day one.
I don't like the way the game just started, straight out the gate, rewriting the ending of part 1. No Dr Uckman, you can't just say that the Fireflies were going to make a cure. That's not how you wrote it, that's not how it went down. I know, I paid attention. They had no clue what would happen when they cut up Ellie's brain. They simply hoped and prayed, in their desperation, that it would lead to something tangible.
& then it jumped right into that bloody bigot sandwiches nonsense. How in the world could a bunch of professionals think that scene works. It's fucking laughably bad. Just hilariously terrible. I'm actually stunned that someone sat down & wrote it with a straight face. Bigot sandwiches!!!
Everything after that was dull, uninteresting, badly written, poorly paced & clumsily executed. This is not the Naughty Dog I've come to know. It's quite a shocking fall from grace, to be perfectly honest. I've thoroughly enjoyed Last of Us 1, Uncharted 4, Lost Legacy. This just isn't working so far. I guess I'm only at the beginning, so it could pick up & the quality could improve, but I'm not hopeful.
At least the dodge is a very nice addition, so that's good. & the graphics are truly spectacular. But man, story was meant to be what this was all about & it's truly, depressingly bad.
For a lot of reviewers, the final moments were where ND sticks the landing -- in any case, it should be interesting seeing how it gets there..!!
That said, combat-wise, this has been a strong refinement of TLOU's systems, and feels both slick yet weighty to play, thanks to Ellie's more mobile nature. Only thing to see now is how the game spaces out each combat and exploration segment and whether the level design holds down the fort throughout the course of it. *shrug*
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sobaka770
Banned
Oh how sad that as soon as something is done by females it's bad and badly written, such bigotry. The game is awesome so far, Dina is awesome, the writing is A-class. I can't wait to get to kill... every... single.. one... of them.
And then do it again on grounded on PS5. I think I'm so into what's going to happen next I don't take enough time to appreciate just how awesome the game looks and feels.
And then do it again on grounded on PS5. I think I'm so into what's going to happen next I don't take enough time to appreciate just how awesome the game looks and feels.
@Steve.1981 yeah, the immediate retcon leaves a sour taste. The prologue makes Joel out to be overly sentimental and sappy, as if he was too weak to do what was necessary to save the world, instead of a man of strong convictions seeing through a difficult personal choice where there were no easy answers. This was a guy who was more or less dead inside, but found enough of a spark of life through Ellie to channel his darkness toward saving her.
It was the most powerful aspect of TLOU1, and absolutely should not have been tampered with.
It was the most powerful aspect of TLOU1, and absolutely should not have been tampered with.
Mossybrew
Member
I'm maybe an hour into Seattle Day One and I pretty much disagree with all your complaints. I'm actually enjoying the game more than I expected to at this point.
Shantae
Banned
I can't see through the smoke from all the fire in this post.
tassletine
Member
Played up to Seattle day one.
I don't like the way the game just started, straight out the gate, rewriting the ending of part 1. No Dr Uckman, you can't just say that the Fireflies were going to make a cure. That's not how you wrote it, that's not how it went down. I know, I paid attention. They had no clue what would happen when they cut up Ellie's brain. They simply hoped and prayed, in their desperation, that it would lead to something tangible.
& then it jumped right into that bloody bigot sandwiches nonsense. How in the world could a bunch of professionals think that scene works. It's fucking laughably bad. Just hilariously terrible. I'm actually stunned that someone sat down & wrote it with a straight face. Bigot sandwiches!!!
Everything after that was dull, uninteresting, badly written, poorly paced & clumsily executed. This is not the Naughty Dog I've come to know. It's quite a shocking fall from grace, to be perfectly honest. I've thoroughly enjoyed Last of Us 1, Uncharted 4, Lost Legacy. This just isn't working so far. I guess I'm only at the beginning, so it could pick up & the quality could improve, but I'm not hopeful.
At least the dodge is a very nice addition, so that's good. & the graphics are truly spectacular. But man, story was meant to be what this was all about & it's truly, depressingly bad.
There are bits that stick out like a sore thumb but I don’t think I’ve played a game that has sequences that don’t do that. It seems about on par with other Naughty Dog games.
There was some sly humour in there — Ellies first target is a black kid (I Assume making fun of the film trope where the first to die is black, even if it is just snowballs) And the bit where the two girls try and open a jar made me smile. There are some fairly glaring SWJ nods but no more than any other game would have nods to fascism etc. (Half life. GTA). Overall there have been some moving and subtle moments that have been undermined by the clunky stuff but it’s not as depressingly bad as you say. At least I haven’t reached for the Valium yet.
As for rewriting the first game, Joel is telling a story and he’s perfectly entitled to act in character — as it’s not an impartial narrator speaking but a character trying to come to terms with what happened. The most important part of the ending was kept intact — That Joel lied to Ellie and she accepted it.
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Steve.1981
Unconfirmed Member
It is a more refined version of part 1's combat. I hoped the dodge would work & it absolutely does. I already feel more comfortable approaching a possible fight & I imagine that feeling will grow when I start coming up against gangs of human enemies.
Exactly. For some daft reason they've decided they just had to change important aspects of Joel's character. Why do that. Were they not happy that so many fans agreed with his actions? Is it just unacceptable to have strong men like him, capable of making those hard choices, in lead roles in our stories anymore? I don't know man, all I know is I don't like it.
But why you dont like it? If it because womens looks as men then yes its your problem. I dont have that problem.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Reality
My copy hasn't arrived, oh well
I wouldn't be able to play it until Monday anyway
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BluRayHiDef
Banned
I'm stuck.
I'm playing on Survivor and have reached the second building in Seattle that's labeled "WLF." My health is critically low, so a single swipe from an enemy equals death, and I don't have any ammunition. So, because it's so difficult to sneak past the five or six "runners" who are in the ground-level of the building, near the entrance, I keep getting detected and then killed. My options are to start the game over or to lower the difficulty; I don't want to do the former because I don't want to play through all of the previous levels again and I don't want to do the latter because doing so would hurt my pride. Damn.
BluRayHiDef
Banned
That's irrelevant. The point is that the Xbox One X's version of RDR2 looks better than The Last of Us 2. In fact, I'd say that Xbox One X's version of RDR2 is the best looking game on console.
saintjules
Gold Member
2.5 hours in. Gorgeous looking game so far. I understand the gripe with the film grain. Over time your eyes get used to it, but ultimately it would be cool for an option to disable it or adjust it. It does add something to the game overall.
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Steve.1981
Unconfirmed Member
But that's the thing, Joel is not acting in character during that "confession". Apart from his sad tone regarding his lie to Ellie & how she feels about it. That I can believe would weigh heavy on his conscience. But he knew what we knew. The "cure" was nothing but hopes & dreams.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
This is what I was worried about
I gotta play it to see for myself but I'm afraid it'll ruin the original
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Steve.1981
Unconfirmed Member
Accessibility options in the pause menu.
That's actually another good thing about the game. Don't know if I've ever seen such deep, all-encompassing accessibility options.
It takes what Gears 5 did & goes even further, above & beyond. It's really well done.
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
That's not what was depicted in the first game.
Here are the actual quotes from the recordings and Marlene.
Marlene
Doctor
This doesn't sound like they were hoping and praying, they truly believe they had a cure.
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REE Machine
Banned
The problem why the console didnt sell is because it had no good first party titles to show off the system, period.
BluRayHiDef
Banned
Okay, I went back and read the original post of yours to which I replied and realized that you were referring to games published by Microsoft. I see your point now. However, what about Gears of War 4 and 5? They look great, don't they?
Cactuarman
Banned
But does Joel ever acknowledge in game that he knew it was an uncertainty? The player can know this if they find the right artifact, but ultimately I'd assume that what he knows about the situation is based on what he says in the game.
And ultimately if you think of it like: Ending 1 (no artifacts collected) and Ending 2 (artifacts collected), Last of Us 2 goes with Ending 1 as cannon. But even then, I had always interpreted it as knowledge for the benefit of the audience. So really, Last of Us cannon is just Ending 1.
Not really a rewrite of anything if I remember correctly.
Interesting framing. It seems to me like they're both pretty hard decisions - let Ellie die for a potential cure which could save many lives VS kill a bunch of people trying to find a cure to save Ellie
Edit: rewording
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REE Machine
Banned
They look great but much like Halo, Gears has been on a slow down hill spiral, what would have reallt helped them would have been 1-2 new ips that were built on the ground up to show what the X could have done and make people go out and buy it instead of settle with their launch. They fumbled the X launch horribly.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Oh man. The Last of us 2 is installing... and Oculus Quest just got here. Got my hands full.
Impressions so far: Oculus quest is much more comfortable than I though and the screens looks fantastic(I think better than S). Hand tracking is neat too.
Oh... tlou2 is installing still the install disc
Impressions so far: Oculus quest is much more comfortable than I though and the screens looks fantastic(I think better than S). Hand tracking is neat too.
Oh... tlou2 is installing still the install disc
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Steve.1981
Unconfirmed Member
Yes it is what was depicted in the first game.
Marlene tells Joel they'll be able to create a vaccine in order to placate him & justify her actions. It's not because she knows it for a fact. She records a message for Anna, Ellie's mother, where she also tries to justify her actions by saying "...we have a chance to save everyone"
& you cut out a lot of the Surgeon's recording. You know, like the part where he talks about trying to replicate her immunity under lab conditions. He's excited because she's immune & he's desperate to try & find out how. Again, he doesn't know for a fact that killing Ellie & cutting her brain up will lead to anything.
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Steve.1981
Unconfirmed Member
Well if you want to look at it that way, how about this? In my playthroughs, it was Joel who found the diaries & recordings that explained all of this stuff. So I assume he knows it.
farmerboy
Member
Well then it gets interesting doesn't it?
Want it to get more interesting? What if your preconceived bias is colouring how you read the situation, one way or the other?
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
I referenced the most important parts.
What was said in the first game simply doesn't indicate hope and prayer. Marlene was on the verge of tears when she was talking about the vaccine. The doctor was comparing it to the discovery of penicillin. Even if there was a little doubt, they were just about ready to celebrate.
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Steve.1981
Unconfirmed Member
It absolutely does indicate hopes & prayers. They were desperate. Marlene especially so & a part of her knew the hard truth that Joel showed her when he said "Yeah. You keep telling yourself that bullshit" Hence those tears you heard in her voice.
The doctor was excited & desperate, as I already explained.
Glad you at least acknowledge that there was a little doubt though. That's a start.