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[UnemployedVillain]

Yikes, couldnt watch this dude.

It's like he's from the PewDiePie school of "how to make obnoxious lol so zany QUICK CUT" Youtube videos

 

[flintstryker]

I never claimed I knew everything. My comment was simply in relation to the open world aspect.

And yes,I do think I know enough to make a judgment on that aspect on it.

Obviously the game has more to it that sets it apart from other games

from what I have seen those towers are more like the fishes in WW than the towers in ubisoft games based on functions

 

[Inferno313]

I need to stop reading these previews.

It's sounding as if this might end up in my personal "top tier" of Zelda games (Ocarina, Link to the Past, Skyward Sword, Minish Cap).

The only thing that's worrying me is weapon destruction, which I hate in games.

For what it's worth, some of these previews say it's one of the best implementations of such a system. That it's not designed to punish you, but to encourage you to play with a variety of weapons and playstyles, that the variety of weapons never makes it such that you'll completely run out of good options.

 

[casey_contra]

Answer is locked behind embargo.

Ah, darn. I'm guessing yes. Because it doesn't make sense to say "don't mention that this mechanic doesn't exist" in an embargo, right?

"Don't mention this mechanic" seems more realistic.

 

[Effect]

I need to stop reading these previews.

It's sounding as if this might end up in my personal "top tier" of Zelda games (Ocarina, Link to the Past, Skyward Sword, Minish Cap).

The only thing that's worrying me is weapon destruction, which I hate in games.

Yeah I've stopped reading since this morning. I've gotten all the impressions I need. I'm ready to find out more (good or bad) myself as I play the game. I don't want to be pushed to lean in any other direction. I've seen enough to know though that I'm going to love this game regardless of any minor hiccups in the grand scheme of things.

 

[LotusHD]

Isn't nier also an open world ?

It is.

 

[Burning Justice]

EDIT: Somehow posted this in the wrong thread...

 

[Ridley1]

I dont agree. Zelda is a shakeup of Zelda, but it really isnt new for the open world genre.

That said, nothing wrong with that at all.

I don't think so. Playing devil's advocate think about Ocarina of Time and its Z targeting and camera. That had huge affects and impacts on future 3d games to come.

Or what Wind Waker was doing with the character model and tessellation on the water surface. There were things in that game that weren't done again until Uncharted.

To the current state of open world games, I'm highly critical of the attempted balance of structure vs freedom. Take Skyrim... there is a reason the dungeons are below ground (aside from having fewer variations in texture). They could drop that anywhere on the map and have it make sense. You can give the player freedom, but you also need some guidance to drive meaningful, designed experiences too. That's been lacking.

Zelda games have traditionally been in a league of their own for those structured experiences... and perhaps even to a fault. Today's open world games are too open... also perhaps to a fault. I'm excited and hopeful to see how Nintendo handles this dichotomy in Breath of the Wild and early indications hint that it could be a lesson for future open world games. Because the current trend is make things more and more open (example: no man's sky). What if Zelda can be a better game for walking the balance more effectively and swinging the pendulum the other way?

From the Kotaku preview:

My doubt faded. My sense that this world was as random as it initially appeared melted. There was a designer’s hand all over this place, just more subtly.
http://kotaku.com/early-impressions-of-the-legend-of-zelda-breath-of-the-1792716002

 

[Caelus]

For what it's worth, some of these previews say it's one of the best implementations of such a system. That it's not designed to punish you, but to encourage you to play with a variety of weapons and playstyles, that the variety of weapons never makes it such that you'll completely run out of good options.

I think out of all the game's systems, even if this one's well implemented, people's mileage will vary. For instance, if I get a good weapon I'm not sure I'll ever use it ever except in a boss fight maybe since I'm very nitpicky with using powerful consumables.

But the weapon variety in this game looks so good (fucking mops, dude) that I think I'll have less of an issue with that. Weapon crafting + repair helps too, if the latter is confirmed.

 

[RareFantasy64]

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That's my favorite Zelda

Edit: oh sorry for quoting, didn't realize you meant to post it in another thread

 

[Skittzo0413]

Another question for folks who have played. In terms of inventory - is there a place to store items/gear/weapons so I don't have to toss them away?

One of the previews had the guy talk about putting map stickers down where he saw good weapons so he knew to come back to them. He might mean they're in chests or he might mean they were just sitting on the ground. If it's the latter it would mean that you can drop items and they'll stay there, which is essentially a storage space.

 

[Wollan]

The only thing that's worrying me is weapon destruction, which I hate in games.

I think it sounds interesting since there's seemingly no focus on repairing them (that's where traditional weapon tear and wear becomes tedious).

It's like Halo were the two-weapon system initially sounded limiting but it turned out brilliant since you pick them up on the fly for the situation and dispose of them in action. Made you think about your engagements in a different way.

 

[Plum]

from what I have seen those towers are more like the fishes in WW than the towers in ubisoft games based on functions

The Ubisoft Fish in Wind Waker were the worst part. They were as bad as the Ubisoft Map Stations in Super Metroid or the Ubisoft Tingle in Majora's Mask!

 

[BearPawB]

It sounds like you get so many weapons the degradation isn't a big deal

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

I don't think so. Playing devil's advocate think about Ocarina of Time and its Z targeting and camera. That had huge affects and impacts on future 3d games to come.

Or what Wind Waker was doing with the character model and tessellation on the water surface. There were things in that game that weren't done again until Uncharted.

To the current state of open world games, I'm highly critical of the attempted balance of structure vs freedom. Take Skyrim... there is a reason the dungeons are below ground (aside from having fewer variations in texture). They could drop that anywhere on the map and have it make sense. You can give the player freedom, but you also need some guidance to drive meaningful, designed experiences too. That's been lacking.

Zelda games have traditionally been in a league of their own for those structured experiences... and perhaps even to a fault. Today's open world games are too open... also perhaps to a fault. I'm excited and hopeful to see how Nintendo handles this dichotomy in Breath of the Wild and early indications hint that it could be a lesson for future open world games. Because the current trend is make things more and more open (example: no man's sky). What if Zelda can be a better game for walking the balance more effectively and swinging the pendulum the other way?

From the Kotaku preview:

Mm thats a choice of words right there. I been expecting it the whole time but everybody on gaf like to harp on the past.

Cant wait for this game to drop. This is some new shit not some OLD shit

 

[LordOcidax]

The framerate in this game is terrible, holy shit.

Really?..
https://youtu.be/6ktFlmH_0CI

 

[forrest]

Shit that is awful

20-25 fps for long periods...

They could release a day one patch i guess..

Almost makes me want to play portable only..

If lowering the foliage count and draw distance detail will improve any fps issues, I'll gladly take that in a patch or at least the option to adjust it on my own.

 

[Caelus]

Gameplay footage of Link entering a village. Music sounds great.

 

[FarFromAnyGame]

You need a calendar, bro?

You need eyes to read my post, bro?

 

[sammex]

I know it's hyperbolic, but I think this is going to be an all-time classic.

ONE MORE WEEK MAN

Must not get over hyped....

 

[Effect]

Really?..
https://youtu.be/6ktFlmH_0CI

Don't fall for the troll post.

 

[Confused Cheeseburger]

I'm a little confused about how towers are working in this game.

 

[Neoweee]

It sounds like you get so many weapons the degradation isn't a big deal

It still leads to a lot of inventory management.

 

[Cucurbitacée]

Gameplay footage of Link entering a village. Music sounds great.

Pretty sure some of the stuff shown here is under embargo. Enjoy ^^

 

[Plum]

I'm a little confused about how towers are working in this game.

You climb up them and they reveal their portion of the map, that's it really. You don't get any icons or even location names, just what the surrounding landscape looks like.

 

[serenewarfare]

Gameplay footage of Link entering a village. Music sounds great.

I thought villages were embargoed?

 

[Hindl]

I'm a little confused about how towers are working in this game.

You climb to the top and activate them. That reveals the topography of the area that you're currently in. No icons or anything though. And then from there, they expect you to look around at the surrounding landscape for interesting things and go find them. This is aided by leaving beacons around the world while you're scouting from the top of the tower

 

[LordOcidax]

Gameplay footage of Link entering a village. Music sounds great.

O.O. I need this game now. Fu...........

 

[Majmun]

Gameplay footage of Link entering a village. Music sounds great.

Everything about this game looks so special.

I have to stop watching all the video's tho

 

[ckaneo]

from what I have seen those towers are more like the fishes in WW than the towers in ubisoft games based on functions

I know, but having giant towers unlock the map is very ubisoft. I'm well aware that you don't get quest markers that way. My point was, I really doubt Zelda has noticeable revolutionary changes to open world structure when they don't need to be changed. The game obviously can be revolutionary in other areas like it's physics or story telling, or items or something like that. But open world in general? To quote the great Charles Barkley, I may be wrong but I doubt it.

 

[Vanguard771]

I'm a little confused about how towers are working in this game.

You climb them to receive topographical data of your surroundings. And once you're up there you can set points of interest using the scope on the sheikh slates.

 

[EmCeeGramr]

Okay I just saw the part in the Polygon video where a mounted Bokoblin is chasing after them and an electric Keese flies in from the opposite direction, misses them, and hits the Bokoblin instead, killing it.

 

[Osahi]

My favorite game of all time. Ahhhhhhhhhhhh. Can't wait.


Any impressions on dungeons? I'm not risking reading through all this thread...

Dungeons are (edit: NOT) replaced by optional shrines, which you need to clear four of for every heart container or stamina update you want. Most are clever, short puzzels. Some are hcombat oriented, but usually only a few enemies.

Edit: sorry folks. My bad. There are dungeons it seems. Still have to encounter my first one.

 

[Exile20]

DanTDM just posted a video. His video will probably get more views than all other preview videos together.

He just plays the beginning of the game at the Plateau and nothing that wasn't shown at E3, but it's quite entertaining.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDpHvHLf_to

The animations in this game is really really good, BTW.

14mil Subs?
Why is it the most annoying sounding youtubers are the most popular?

 

[Inferno313]

Dungeons are replaced by optional shrines, which you need to clear four of for every heart container or stamina update you want. Most are clever, short puzzels. Some are combat oriented, but usually only a few enemies.

This is outright false.

There are dungeons as well.

 

[LordOcidax]

Dungeons are replaced by optional shrines, which you need to clear four of for every heart container or stamina update you want. Most are clever, short puzzels. Some are combat oriented, but usually only a few enemies.

Nop

 

[Wanderer5]

Has there been new impressions regarding the WiiU version just wondering?

Gah must not watch videos. Damnnit just a week away!

 

[Inferno313]

Has there been new impressions regarding the WiiU version just wondering?

Gah must not watch videos. Damnnit just a week away!

Nope, press didn't get that version.

 

[casey_contra]

Gameplay footage of Link entering a village. Music sounds great.

Ugh. Wish I didn't watch.

But a new question - the village(s) in the video seem very traditional Zelda, as in enclosed on most sides with designated entrances and exits... would there be anything stopping me from gliding from a high point directly into a village from above?

 

[Cucurbitacée]

Has there been new impressions regarding the WiiU version just wondering?

Gah must not watch videos. Damnnit just a week away!

No Wii U copies were sent early, only Switch ones.

 

[Resistance100]

14mil Subs?
Why is it the most annoying sounding youtubers are the most popular?

No idea but we even have DanDTM (tubeheroes)toys at work which sell surprisingly well.

 

[MiamiWesker]

There aren't that many open world games with this focus on physics based, systems driven gameplay and level of polish.



I don't know how to answer that, but i know that puzzles are physics based and you can solve them in many different ways with your items and runes, which sounds like a huge improvement compared to the (already great) items based puzzles in previous titles.

But I want both, new physics style puzzles and new items to use in those puzzles. I want boomerangs, hookshots, different elemental powers, and so on. I didn't care for the ALBW approach. There is something magical about getting a new item in a dungeon. And I know the one dungeon they played had no item, so that sucks already. Some things shouldn't have to change.

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

Dungeons are replaced by optional shrines, which you need to clear four of for every heart container or stamina update you want. Most are clever, short puzzels. Some are combat oriented, but usually only a few enemies.

#FAKENEWS

 

[SinCityAssassin]

Dungeons are replaced by optional shrines, which you need to clear four of for every heart container or stamina update you want. Most are clever, short puzzels. Some are combat oriented, but usually only a few enemies.

There are dungeons.

 

[Hindl]

I know, but having giant towers unlock the map is very ubisoft. I'm well aware that you don't get quest markers that way. My point was, I really doubt Zelda has noticeable revolutionary changes to open world structure when they don't need to be changed. The game obviously can be revolutionary in other areas like it's physics or story telling, or items or something like that. But open world in general? To quote the great Charles Barkley, I may be wrong but I doubt it.

Well for one example, there's a level of openness that I don't think has been really done in open games. The level of freedom in this game dwarfs even Skyrim. Even if you beeline the main quest in Skyrim, it still takes several hours of completing a certain questline before you can face the final boss. Here, you can go straight to Hyrule Castle to fight the final boss, even if you'll most likely die.

And then if they manage to tell a compelling story in spite of all that freedom I'd think that would be another big change. Tons of games have multiple endings, but if you find a way to structure the story in a way that's satisfying for players that beelined straight to Hyrule after getting up out of the cave, and players that completed every dungeon and shrine and experienced everything the game had to offer, that would be another big deal that hasn't really been seen.

 

[DecoReturns]

Okay I just saw the part in the Polygon video where a mounted Bokoblin is chasing after them and an electric Keese flies in from the opposite direction, misses them, and hits the Bokoblin instead, killing it.

That polygon dude also killed his own horse

 

[serenewarfare]

Okay I just saw the part in the Polygon video where a mounted Bokoblin is chasing after them and an electric Keese flies in from the opposite direction, misses them, and hits the Bokoblin instead, killing it.

Link?

 

[Painraze]

Dungeons are replaced by optional shrines, which you need to clear four of for every heart container or stamina update you want. Most are clever, short puzzels. Some are combat oriented, but usually only a few enemies.

You work for Trump administration?

 

[Cucurbitacée]

Ugh. Wish I didn't watch.

But a new question - the village(s) in the video seem very traditional Zelda, as in enclosed on most sides with designated entrances and exits... would there be anything stopping me from gliding from a high point directly into a village from above?

A stamina bar not big enough to climb such a high point.

 

[Osahi]

This is outright false.

There are dungeons as well.

Nop

Then I am wrong. Still have to encounter my first dungeon after playing 10 hours. But I have a feeling that if there are some, the next point in the main quest might feature them.