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The Legend of Zelda Community Thread: Timelines, Retreads and Colors Oh My
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Cow Mengde
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How many of you have messed around with a program called Zelda classics? It's a PC program that lets you make your own Zelda game, although the mechanics are still stuck in the first game. At least that's where it was when I touched it a few years ago.
I'll put spoiler tags just in case.
So what do people on GAF think about
For those who aren't familiar, perhaps...
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Hmm. Obviously just speculation and cannot be supported very well.
So what do people on GAF think about
the Hero of Time being one and the same with the Hero's Shade? (Skeleton Knight who teaches Twilight Princess Link)
For those who aren't familiar, perhaps...
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At the end of Majora's Mask (Child timeline), we see Hero of Time Link go into the Lost Woods to look for Navi once again. We really don't know what happens to him. Now Link is a Hylian. One of the Kokiri in the Ocarina of Time mentions that Hylians who enter the Lost Woods without a Fairy will become a Stalfos.
Many many years later in this timeline arises the events of Twilight Princess, where a new Link gets sword training by a mysterious warrior, known as Hero's Shade. This character has a similar appearance to that of a Stalfos, suggesting that he might be a similar creature. Even his name suggest he was a 'Hero'
Many many years later in this timeline arises the events of Twilight Princess, where a new Link gets sword training by a mysterious warrior, known as Hero's Shade. This character has a similar appearance to that of a Stalfos, suggesting that he might be a similar creature. Even his name suggest he was a 'Hero'
Hmm. Obviously just speculation and cannot be supported very well.
EmCeeGramr
Member
i hate all of you forever
Princess Skittles
Prince's's 'Skittle's
I think the games are not meant to be connected at all, whatever loose timeline they're concocting is just a red herring (which I'm probably incorrectly using, but whatever).
Just play and enjoy each game as its own entity.
Just play and enjoy each game as its own entity.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Finished the Arbiters Ground, which in retrospect might be my favourite dungeon in the entire series. It's soaked in atmosphere, has great puzzles, the Spinner is a bitchin' item, it mixes up both adult Link and wolf play, and the two bossfights (Death Sword and Stallord) are really awesome. Like most of Twilight Princess the ease works against it, but I still love it. Here's more shots than anybody asked.
ThatObviousUser
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Princess Skittles said:
So you didn't play Majora's Mask, Wind Waker, Phantom Hourglass, or Spirit Tracks then? And Twilight Princess to a lesser extent.
Princess Skittles
Prince's's 'Skittle's
I've played them all multiple times (except PH/ST, only once).Andrex said:
Diomedeskun
Member
Princess Skittles said:
The games can certainly be enjoyed fully on their own, but there is no question that there are clear connections between the 3D games that add to the atmosphere and story at a level that is beyond mere cameo. The opening of Wind Waker alone makes it clear that it is a priority of the more recent games in the series.
ThatObviousUser
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Princess Skittles said:
Then how could you say that?
EmCeeGramr
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i can't decide who i hate more
the people who try to stick every game into one cohesive plot like if you study minish cap's linguistic drift you'll discover clues about population and ethnographic changes amongst games borne from hylian agricultural innovations
or the people who insist that they're never connected at all and that wind waker is a stand alone LEGEND RETOLD where link has a boat and everything from nintendo and the games themselves stating otherwise is part of some 15 year long lie because?????
the people who try to stick every game into one cohesive plot like if you study minish cap's linguistic drift you'll discover clues about population and ethnographic changes amongst games borne from hylian agricultural innovations
or the people who insist that they're never connected at all and that wind waker is a stand alone LEGEND RETOLD where link has a boat and everything from nintendo and the games themselves stating otherwise is part of some 15 year long lie because?????
I've always wondered how many levels of insane one would have to be to design dungeons the way they are designed. In mean in-game. It would be interesting if in one future Zelda they actually had you come across an architect of one of these places. Or at least have someone in the game comment on the crazy nature of these locations. I'd love to see Link enter one, have the camera pan back to show the main area and it's crazy design, and then have the camera zoom in on Link as he looks around only to face palm and shake his head. Then sigh and and walk down the steps into the area.
Princess Skittles
Prince's's 'Skittle's
Because even if there are loose connections between games, they are, in the end, meaningless. They could NOT be there and it would change the games they are present in ZERO PERCENT. There will never be a plot point or reveal that ties things together in more than a fashion that obsessed fans writing fan-fiction will care about. Every Zelda game will be a stand-alone piece first and foremost. You will never need knowledge from a previous game to enjoy any aspect of another one in any more than a very slight "aha.." way.Andrex said:
Tathanen
Get Inside Her!
Seda said:
I think it's sort of a neat idea, but he never really seemed like he had Link's personality to me. Which is silly since Link HAS no personality, but I dunno. There really aren't any physical characteristics he has that would identify him as Link, he was just "a Hero." Surely there can be non-Link heroes?
MisterHero
Super Member
Seda said:
That's a nice idea, but Link would have had to gone back to the forest as an adult, because child Hylians become Skull Kids under the same spell of the forest.
But I sort of like/hate to believe that the Shade is the fate of OoT Link, he is the Hero most associated with the Lost Woods after all
But I sort of like/hate to believe that the Shade is the fate of OoT Link, he is the Hero most associated with the Lost Woods after all
There's the Knights of Hyrule as well. They're sort of important in games like Four Swords Adventures.Tathanen said:
And Rusl. Rusl's a cool guy
ThatObviousUser
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Princess Skittles said:
Regardless, you said they weren't "meant" to be connected "at all." But they are "meant" to.
Besides that, Wind Waker in particular would not be as enjoyable if it didn't have all the stuff referencing Ocarina of Time. In fact, a good bit of the story hinges on all that happened in that game.
Has anyone shared EiffelArt's Zelda boss overdrive collages yet? 'Cause they're amazing... Links to dA page/fullsize immediately below each image...
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ThatObviousUser
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Lovely!
WW Link is fat.
WW Link is fat.
IceDoesntHelp
Banned
lol.Andrex said:
Nintendo you gone done broke my heart, all because you bastards changed the colour of your logo. I hate you forever and ever </3
Chet Rippo
Member
Princess Skittles said:
Professor Beef
Banned
What a self-entitled dick. Couldn't make it past 2 minutes of that video. And this gem he put in the description says it all, really.Andrex said:
"Yes, this project is cancelled. Nintendo doesn't deserve anymore so much work. I give you all I did and all the sources. Feel free to continue this fan art as YOU want, we can't count on Nintendo to continue the legend !"
smh
I really need to replay Twilight Princess before Skyward Sword comes out. I was very happy with the game, and especially the dungeon design when it first came out. And those screen shots are getting me all hot and bothered.
But I still have to finish Xenoblade. ;_;
But I still have to finish Xenoblade. ;_;
Franchuzas87
Member
Yeah, the same grey-logo-Nintendo that may be making one of the best Zeldas ever (Skyward Sword) and giving another one for free with new levels (Four Swords).Gravijah said:
Just lol.
shadyspace
Banned
Me too. Just got to Dragon Roost Island.Seda said:
Seda said:
I adhere to this philosophy - and to be honest when I was playing TP for the first time I just got the feeling through his "teachings" that he was in fact - who you say he is.
The only thing that might change that is
the cinematic where the game talks about the interlopers is a reference to the Hyrulian Civil War and one of the factions that came out of that were the interlopers. That means that this "shade" could have been one of the knights of hyrule from that time period
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Anth0ny said:
My shots are all vanilla TP. No texture packs.
viciouskillersquirrel
Member
Eh, TMC is a bit of a mess and will introduce things that make no sense into any overarching timeline. If Tanathen is right (he may well be) and there are two canons, that would alleviate the problem, but where's the fun in that?EmCeeGramr said:
I think there is a single continuity, mostly because outside of Mario, I've never heard of any precedent to indicate that the good people at Nintendo believe in reboots. I also know that they will sacrifice continuity and common sense quicker than a virgin at a Winter Solstice festival if they think something will be fun or amusing.
Hence why Tingle is a timeline-hopping demigod and there is 19th century level technology in a world where most people live like the industrial revolution never happened.
SecretMoblin
Member
I agree about the 3D Zeldas, but I replay Link to the Past and Link's Awakening every year around Thanksgiving.Boney said:
And Super Metroid, of course.
Chet Rippo
Member
Mature said:Diddy Kong still keeps the red alive.
Not anymore.
Once or twice a year I go through a Zelda phase and play through two or three Zelda games consecutively. I bought a 3DS when Ocarina of Time 3D so I played through that, and of course I bought Link's Awakening DX on the 3DS Virtual Console and finished that, and then I bought Link to the Past on the Wii Virtual Console and finished that too. If one of the 3DS Ambassador Games is Minish Cap, I'll definitely play that one again too.
I bought a 3DS when Ocarina of Time 3D so I played through that, and of course I bought Link's Awakening DX on the 3DS Virtual Console and finished that, and then I bought Link to the Past on the Wii Virtual Console and finished that too. If one of the 3DS Ambassador Games is Minish Cap, I'll definitely play that one again too.There's nothing irrational about my hate for Diddy Kong and the rest of the Kongs.Gravijah said:
viciouskillersquirrel
Member
I wouldn't say hate, but I don't like him nearly as much as Donkey or Dixie.Gravijah said:
Electivirus
Member
Gravijah said:
You are a terrible person and should feel terrible.
Professor Beef
Banned
Still nowhere near as awful as this son of a bitch.Gravijah said:
Chet Rippo
Member
t(>.<t)Gravijah said: