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The Official Final Fantasy XIII TRIAL VERSION Thread
- Thread starter Kagari
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Kagari said:
The FMV in the demo disc looked a lot sharper to me. A while ago, european PSN had a "1080"p trailer, which didn't look anywhere as clear. It might have been due to compression, but my guess is that trailer was an upscaled 720p trailer on other PSN servers.
I usually don't care whether FMVs are 720p or 1080p, but this is really really beautiful stuff, it'd be nice if they are kept at 1080p native.
Tyrone Slothrop
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wait, so battles cut to away to a different screen again?? boooo. way to step backwards
DeathbyVolcano
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Tyrone Slothrop said:
Not really.
flabberghastly
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Have you not seen any of the demo videos?Tyrone Slothrop said:
Tyrone Slothrop
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yeah i just got done watching them. looks like it cuts away to a different (albeit nearly identical) screen.
flabberghastly
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I'm curious to see how the system will be fully implemented. Will we have the opportunity to run from encounters like what was available in XII, or will we be back to holding down shoulder buttons after the battle transition has already occurred? How far will the battle radius be when determining which enemies on the travel field will transition to the battle? Will the size of the battle field be limited by the travel field positions of enemies that were nearby but still outside the transition radius? If we've managed to significantly move across the battle field, will this be reflected in our position on the travel field after battle? If so, is there the possibility that one will be transitioned directly from one battle into the attack radius of an enemy, thus transitioning to another battle?stuburns said:
By the way, Tyrone, nice screen name. I always preferred Roger Mexico, though.
I've been thinking about that actually. I'm kind of thinking we might get some light stealth elements. If they see you in the demo, they'll catch you almost always, but it seems like you can run away, and you go into this strange sneaky walk when you're in their area of perception and trying to walk.
I also suspect how we 'meet' them will effect how a battle starts, even though it doesn't appear to currently in the demo.
I also suspect how we 'meet' them will effect how a battle starts, even though it doesn't appear to currently in the demo.
flabberghastly
Member
Some contextual stealth elements could be interesting if they aren't some disposable nonentity. Either do it correctly and make it matter or don't bother.stuburns said:
I've also figured that there would be variations not only in how we 'meet' them, but also how this will affect the battle. Previous Final Fantasies have seen formations such as preemptive strikes, back attacks, and pincer attacks, so I expect (and will accept) nothing less from this one.
This seems to be the most glaring defiency in their engine, and hints to me that perhaps it isn't as optimized for the PS3 as some people are expecting. When a game like God of War III has up to 50 enemies fighting Kratos on the back of a Titan in the form of a moving level, clearly the PS3 should be capable of seamless combat like FFXII.Rpgmonkey said:
Kingsora
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Hilarious FF XIII shit, you just have to see this: :lol
http://ps3life.nl/nieuws/3498-lachen-met-final-fantasy-xiii/
http://ps3life.nl/nieuws/3498-lachen-met-final-fantasy-xiii/
I disagree. I think they've just chosen to use the power in other areas. I think this is the best looking PS3 game, with probably the best image quality of any 720p game on there. They've clearly 'tapped' the PS3 to near it's full potential. If they were happy with it being less visually impressive they could have done seamless battles, but it's not like they are pure advantage. There are disadvantages to them, not having enemies 'lined-up' correctly, having your party magically catch up with you (something masked when going into an 'arena' to fight).flabberghastly said:
viewtiful_dru
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I liked the 20 I played of this demo more than the 20 minutes I played of FFXII.
Snow's a beast too, the normal foot soldiers can only take 2 hits from his normal attack.
Snow's a beast too, the normal foot soldiers can only take 2 hits from his normal attack.
SundaySounds
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a bit LTTP and out of the loop, but has this demo come to America yet?
nelsonroyale
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???? FFXIII is pretty much seemless...loading does not occur between battles...the whole level seems to be loaded, so I dont think it occurs in the demo between areas, and the loading between cutscenes is much shorter than ffxii...clearely battles going to a separate screen has nothing to do with technical limitations...the first battle is entirely seemless...
I only watched a little of that FFXIII parody but it seemed pretty geeky and the voice acting (obviously) sounded crap...a bit painful really and embarrassing, but why not I suppose? Personally, I think the cutscenes in the demo have the most impressive character expressions I've seen in gaming
I only watched a little of that FFXIII parody but it seemed pretty geeky and the voice acting (obviously) sounded crap...a bit painful really and embarrassing, but why not I suppose? Personally, I think the cutscenes in the demo have the most impressive character expressions I've seen in gaming
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Yeah it's not loading in FFXIII's battle. It's just repositioning the characters according to the battle system's needs.
I hope more of the battles will be seamless like the first one, at least boss bottles. The behemoth battle wasn't and it looked weird as a result (he dashes, then he's just standing there).
I hope more of the battles will be seamless like the first one, at least boss bottles. The behemoth battle wasn't and it looked weird as a result (he dashes, then he's just standing there).
nelsonroyale
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Ether_Snake said:
Have you seen the cutscenes before and after that battle, with the battle cruiser? Its obviously completely rendered in engine, but it looks like cg to me (just not SE quality cg) ...also the modelling of the behemoth is pretty damn amazing...probably modelling of that kind of monster I have seen of a game...
hard to find an image of the behemoth which trully does it justice
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What I said was that the transition was stupid, it rushes toward the crew at full speed but then after the battle transition it's just sitting there waiting to be attacked, unlike the first boss fight that had a smooth transition.
The boss in-between is the same, he rushes Lightening then it cuts to the fight and the guy is standing perfectly still.Ether_Snake said:
I don't care about not having the HUD just appear, I'm fine with a transition screen, but I'd rather it be a little slicker in the transitions.
nelsonroyale
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Ether_Snake said:
I agree I would prefer it seemless..but it isn't a big deal...in the end I find this battle system more interactive than FFXII...which really didnt have any timing related features...real time movement, but not attacks... Versus will probably give you all you want, possibly with an even higher level of visuals...We will probably see real gameplay of that when this game is released towards end of 09
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Yeah I know but that's not my point, a cinematic-to-battle transition should be as seamless as the first fight IMO. I wouldn't be surprised if in the final game they are, but right now it's not the case.
BTW are the original PYSOPs dudes really no longer in the game or what? I liked the design, it was really original.
BTW are the original PYSOPs dudes really no longer in the game or what? I liked the design, it was really original.
nelsonroyale said:
The first battle is a weird case though.
But eh, he said they were sorta limited with memory once the summons and special attacks/skills got brought into the equation, and couldn't go entirely seamless with every fight, so I'm inclined to believe that whatever the case is will be more apparent in the full game.
RoboPlato said:
I'd assume the soldiers shown earlier that didn't look like Helghast clones.
â Narayan
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These guys, I think?RoboPlato said:
E;FB.
nelsonroyale
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Rpgmonkey said:
We will see...he said that months and months ago...even before this build was created...I tend to think things will be further brushed up until release...regardless, if this demo has very little loading their is no reason why it should be the case in the final release...as has been said before, battles don't actually load for any technical reason, just to reposition the characters...
Ether_Snake
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Rpgmonkey said:
I think he meant that since they isolate the characters currently involved in the fight and the others disappear, it allows them to have the summons without too much frame drop. They might also load the summons during the early phase of the battle in the memory and unload them at the end quickly, it wouldn't take long. But having 100% seamless battles would be impossible with the way the battle system works cause the positioning of the characters is important for the way the attacks and the animations work.
Ether_Snake said:
Well I didn't mean that this means the final game will have longer loading or something.
Just that there does seem to be some kind of technical reason as part of why they didn't design the game for entirely seamless fights and would do something like remove things not involved in the fight, as you said.
nelsonroyale
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Ether_Snake said:
They could arrange themselves seemlessly...which I would kind of like, but, yeah, versus should give you what you want...I suppose I forgive such aspects in this game because there is another game which should offer a fully real time battle system, which could far eclipse FFXII...I mean versus is supposed to be real time and fast paced, with a party system...could be amazing