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[Kagari]

I'm so over the Alternate Universe now. They need to come up with something else, or go back and animate a bunch of the UC stories that never were. Unicorn is a great start to that.

A lot of season 2 was rewritten on the fly because of the movie, and Graham specifically had a lot of his arc truncated (if not outright cut) so that he could be carried over into the movie.

Or so the director says!

I'll be really irritated if they axe him in the movie.

 

[Blader]

At least the final battles in S2 were much better than in S1.

 

[BattleMonkey]

00 Gundam had magic cancer curing particles of plot hax, eyes were rolled.

At least the final battles in S2 were much better than in S1.

Except for the whole thousands of cloned MS designed to fly straight at you and die. I was like, seriously that is your bright plan, to have them just rush into the enemy bullets hoping to overwhelm them?

They did have some decent action sequences and I think s2 had promise when it started but nosedived in quality as it went along.

 

[Kagari]

Beam spam.

 

[Jex]

Except for the whole thousands of cloned MS designed to fly straight at you and die. I was like, seriously that is your bright plan, to have them just rush into the enemy bullets hoping to overwhelm them?

Especially when they'd work so much better as, say, an army?

 

[BattleMonkey]

Especially when they'd work so much better as, say, an army?

That would require giving them guns, no, make mobile suits and clones to pilot them to ram right into them!

 

[Jex]

That would require giving them guns, no, make mobile suits and clones to pilot them to ram right into them!

Even in close combat without weapons they'd be pretty useful.:lol

 

[Blader]

Except for the whole thousands of cloned MS designed to fly straight at you and die. I was like, seriously that is your bright plan, to have them just rush into the enemy bullets hoping to overwhelm them?

They did have some decent action sequences and I think s2 had promise when it started but nosedived in quality as it went along.

When I say final battles, I'm referring to Setsuna/Ribbons, Al impaling that one girl (guy?), and Lockon getting the sickest kill ever.


Also, I'm wondering if all the people complaining about hax are still going to be fans of Unicorn when all is said and done. :lol

 

[Kagari]

When I say final battles, I'm referring to Setsuna/Ribbons, Al impaling that one girl (guy?), and Lockon getting the sickest kill ever.


Also, I'm wondering if all the people complaining about hax are still going to be fans of Unicorn when all is said and done. :lol

Unicorn is the magic Gundam, so it's okay.

 

[Dambrosi]

When I say final battles, I'm referring to Setsuna/Ribbons, Al impaling that one girl (guy?), and Lockon getting the sickest kill ever.


Also, I'm wondering if all the people complaining about hax are still going to be fans of Unicorn when all is said and done. :lol

But you'd expect a unicorn to be magic.

EDIT: Godammit Kagari, didn't see your post :lol

 

[distantmantra]

Also, I'm wondering if all the people complaining about hax are still going to be fans of Unicorn when all is said and done. :lol

It's Universal Century, no one minds.

 

[Blader]

It's Universal Century, no one minds.

I suppose so. Nobody seemed to mind when Kamille used newtype hax in Zeta. :lol

 

[Urban Scholar]

I thought that 00 s1 was on the right track as far as AC is concerned.

It was

 

[Kagari]

WTF.

Spoiler

A colony drop? In my Double Zeta? I'm confused as to why there was absolutely no lead up to that at all.

 

[Blader]

WTF.

Spoiler

A colony drop? In my Double Zeta? I'm confused as to why there was absolutely no lead up to that at all.

Because ZZ is stupid, that's why.

Even better,

Spoiler

the colony just sticks out of the fucking ground!

 

[Kagari]

I'm actually enjoying the light-heartedness of ZZ, but some of the plot points are presented a bit poorly.

 

[Kagari]

Episode 37 now :OOOOOO

 

[Blader]

I'm actually enjoying the light-heartedness of ZZ, but some of the plot points are presented a bit poorly.

Wait until you get to the end :lol

 

[Kagari]

Spoiler

I already know Haman kills herself.

 

[BattleMonkey]

WTF.

Spoiler

A colony drop? In my Double Zeta? I'm confused as to why there was absolutely no lead up to that at all.

Much of the events in ZZ are very low key since there really is no opposition to Neo Zeon. Haman mentions this at one point as well and the colony drop was in part also just to show that she was in control by being able to take out many of the remaining earth federal officials without opposition.

After Gryps the Federation was in shambles with much of their forces having been lost due to the civil war and the Titans had destroyed much of the Feddie structure. Neo Zeon had free reign to do as they pleased as you see in most of ZZ how they just go around with no opposition except for the few Kabala funded forces like the Ahgama. Meanwhile Neo Zeon goes around having parties on Earth, couring Earth officials, moving around their forces freely, and no one stands in their way.

I suppose so. Nobody seemed to mind when Kamille used newtype hax in Zeta. :lol

Kamille didn't raise the dead, cure cancer, and deus ex the universe.

 

[Kagari]

Yay. Some of my DVD rebuys came in today. 0080 and 0083 get. Not going to sell them this time.

 

[Blader]

Spoiler

I already know Haman kills herself.

Well that's one thing, but there are plenty of other wtf developments in the last batch of episodes. :lol

Kamille didn't raise the dead, cure cancer, and deus ex the universe.

He did absorb the dead, went super saiyan, and hacked the final boss suit to win.

 

[BattleMonkey]

He did absorb the dead, went super saiyan, and hacked the final boss suit to win.

Pretty standard UC stuff

 

[Kagari]

With Bandai finally licensing Turn-A, I wonder if they'll finally get around to bringing over ZZ, Victory and X as well (lol). And maybe rerelease 0079 in a set so I can buy it.

 

[Blader]

Pretty standard UC stuff

Deus ex machina is still deus ex machina.

And I'd even argue it's worse in Zeta. 00 at least established the idea of how GN particles affect the body beforehand; Zeta never set up the idea of using ghosts as giant robot fuel.

 

[BattleMonkey]

Deus ex machina is still deus ex machina.

And I'd even argue it's worse in Zeta. 00 at least established the idea of how GN particles affect the body beforehand; Zeta never set up the idea of using ghosts as giant robot fuel.

Problem is that 00 made it as mechanical/tech, while most people accept it in UC as it was all mystical fantasy magic from newtypes, and not related to the mecha. In 00 the partiles were in line with radiation like effects for all we know, it never was "magical" that it totally came out of left field. In UC bullshit Newtype stuff was happening since the original series and was built up constantly with each new series.

It's also the fact that there was some much garbage in 00 S2 that it just added more fuel to the fire.

 

[donkey show]

Problem is that 00 made it as mechanical/tech, while most people accept it in UC as it was all mystical fantasy magic from newtypes, and not related to the mecha. In 00 the partiles were in line with radiation like effects for all we know, it never was "magical" that it totally came out of left field. In UC bullshit Newtype stuff was happening since the original series and was built up constantly with each new series.

It's also the fact that there was some much garbage in 00 S2 that it just added more fuel to the fire.

Fucking GN Particles, how do they work?

 

[Kagari]

Which should I watch next: Victory or Gundam X?
I have never seen either, well I saw the first episode of X ages ago but I can't remember it.

 

[hteng]

Fucking GN Particles, how do they work?

magic particles man!

also,

fucking psychoframes, how do they work?

 

[hteng]

Which should I watch next: Victory or Gundam X?
I have never seen either, well I saw the first episode of X ages ago but I can't remember it.

Victory is UC, it's as bleak as Zeta, the animation hasn't age well

X is after war, it's less bleak

 

[Blader]

Which should I watch next: Victory or Gundam X?
I have never seen either, well I saw the first episode of X ages ago but I can't remember it.

I liked Victory more. It's got a *lot* of flaws (Tomino's mental health bottomed out during this series, and it shows), but it's got it's good parts. Comparatively, I thought X was just flat out boring.

Though if you're enjoying the light-hearted tone of ZZ, you may like X more. Victory is just downright mean at times :lol

 

[Kagari]

Minagoroshi no Tomino D:

 

[Mr. Pointy]

Which should I watch next: Victory or Gundam X?
I have never seen either, well I saw the first episode of X ages ago but I can't remember it.

Gundam X. In spite of being pretty much the Gundam equivalent of Mad Max, it's rather light hearted. It's solidly mid-tier Gundam.

Victory is morbidly fascinating but poorly written.

 

[Lafiel]

00 Gundam had magic cancer curing particles of plot hax, eyes were rolled.



Except for the whole thousands of cloned MS designed to fly straight at you and die. I was like, seriously that is your bright plan, to have them just rush into the enemy bullets hoping to overwhelm them?

They did have some decent action sequences and I think s2 had promise when it started but nosedived in quality as it went along.

You are kidding? that scene was classic. TRANS-AM TRANS-AM TRANS-AM.:lol

Which should I watch next: Victory or Gundam X?
I have never seen either, well I saw the first episode of X ages ago but I can't remember it.

Victory gundam gets hate. But it has some fantastic "tomino" moments, while also having a lot of shitty "tomino" moments. And the animation is worse then zeta.>_>

 

[donkey show]

Which should I watch next: Victory or Gundam X?
I have never seen either, well I saw the first episode of X ages ago but I can't remember it.

Hmmm, I think X is one of the best AUs so I'm partially biased towards that (especially with the Frost Bros lulz), but Victory is a good romp if you don't mind characters dying out every other episode

Can't stand Katejina though. Biggest bitch in Gundam? :lol STAND UP TO THE VICTORY!!!

 

[Blader]

Hmmm, I think X is one of the best AUs so I'm partially biased towards that (especially with the Frost Bros lulz), but Victory is a good romp if you don't mind characters dying out every other episode

Can't stand Katejina though. Biggest bitch in Gundam? :lol STAND UP TO THE VICTORY!!!

Katejina is a contender for worst Gundam character ever.

Which is a really impressive feat.

 

[Kagari]

Katejina is a contender for worst Gundam character ever.

Which is a really impressive feat.

Really? There's been some terrible ones, especially in the AU...

 

[donkey show]

Really? There's been some terrible ones, especially in the AU...

Nah, she's Queen B in my book. :lol

 

[BattleMonkey]

It's harder to make a list of actual likable Gundam characters, especially Tomino ones. Tomino does a real shitty job of making characters that don't do random psycho/stupid shit.

 

[Blader]

Really? There's been some terrible ones, especially in the AU...

Even shitty characters like Kira at least have some kind of arc going on. Katejina just shows up sporadically throughout Victory, and in every appearance she's doing something different.

 

[shintoki]

It's harder to make a list of actual likable Gundam characters, especially Tomino ones. Tomino does a real shitty job of making characters that don't do random psycho/stupid shit.

Likable Gundam Characters? How dare you!

 

[donkey show]

It's harder to make a list of actual likable Gundam characters, especially Tomino ones. Tomino does a real shitty job of making characters that don't do random psycho/stupid shit.

Katz Kobayashi and Katejina Loos side story!!!

 

[Blader]

It's harder to make a list of actual likable Gundam characters, especially Tomino ones. Tomino does a real shitty job of making characters that don't do random psycho/stupid shit.

Apolly!

 

[BattleMonkey]

It burns!

 

[Kagari]

It's harder to make a list of actual likable Gundam characters, especially Tomino ones. Tomino does a real shitty job of making characters that don't do random psycho/stupid shit.

Judau, he's like... the anti-Tomino character.

 

[donkey show]

It burns!

Best character death evar.

I actually applauded when this happened.

 

[BattleMonkey]

Judau, he's like... the anti-Tomino character.

He was like the best most grounded of all Gundam characters, I swear Tomino must not have been involved in his creation.

Best character death evar.

I actually applauded when this happened.

prefer the non movie death, as it's less detailed and just happens so fast that I was just :lol

 

[Lafiel]

Katejina is a contender for worst Gundam character ever.

Which is a really impressive feat.

I liked how she started off as somewhat likable. Then she turned into a psychopathic bitch.:lol i thought her turn was incredibly entertaining to watch though.

Judau, he's like... the anti-Tomino character.

What about loran from turn a gundam?

 

[donkey show]

I liked how she started off as somewhat likable. Then she turned into a psychopathic bitch.:lol i thought her turn was incredibly entertaining to watch though.

It was so sporadic and kinda random. :lol

 

[BattleMonkey]

What about loran from turn a gundam?

One of the dullest Gundam protagonist I thought. Corin Nander was better :lol