Haha this might very well be true.
Can't say I'm one of the Crossbone faithful. I love me the look of Crossbone but I've never read it so I don't know what it's like. I just love it when fans get crazy and a company basically trolls them.
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The Official Gundam Thread of Gunpla, Origins, and 35 Years of GUNDAMUUUU!
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Haha this might very well be true.
Can't say I'm one of the Crossbone faithful. I love me the look of Crossbone but I've never read it so I don't know what it's like. I just love it when fans get crazy and a company basically trolls them.
Pretty much. Tobia fights the X2 in an arena and ends up hi-jacking it.
I, for one, am a huge Crossbone fan but I know what I'm dealing with. Which doesn't look to be the case for a lot of the people wanting an adaptation without reading the manga first :3
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In other news, I just watched AGE 29. Considering how they reaffirmed his character last week, I have to say that Flit is some very twisted motherfucker for raising his grandson that way.
I, for one, am a huge Crossbone fan but I know what I'm dealing with. Which doesn't look to be the case for a lot of the people wanting an adaptation without reading the manga first :3
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In other news, I just watched AGE 29. Considering how they reaffirmed his character last week, I have to say that Flit is some very twisted motherfucker for raising his grandson that way.
distantmantra
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First there was Crossbone Exia, and now Crossbone AGE.
I've been saying that for a long time now.
I've been saying that for a long time now.
Yea...don't want Crossbone Anime.
I'd like a series where the protagonist starts in basic training->Grunt->seasoned NCO, or military academy->low grade commissioned officer->unit commander. When am I going to get some one as awesome as Chirico Cuvie as my Gundam lead. Don't want more remakes/tributes etc. All out war against another alien species/alien humanoid species instead of Earth-Colonies etc.
Actually I would have liked the guys who did C.E. 73 Stargazer to do a full series. I got more enjoyment out of that 45 minutes than I did the entirety of SEED Destiny.
I'd like a series where the protagonist starts in basic training->Grunt->seasoned NCO, or military academy->low grade commissioned officer->unit commander. When am I going to get some one as awesome as Chirico Cuvie as my Gundam lead. Don't want more remakes/tributes etc. All out war against another alien species/alien humanoid species instead of Earth-Colonies etc.
Actually I would have liked the guys who did C.E. 73 Stargazer to do a full series. I got more enjoyment out of that 45 minutes than I did the entirety of SEED Destiny.
Dedication Through Light
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Age 29
Pretty epic start to the new gen. Kio has the worst design of the three mains (1. Asemu 2. Flit then 3. Kio), but has some nice potential for action
. Age 3 doesnt look so good (bulky ish) but Maxiis Rifle is epic. New OP is nice, and the ED too. Plotwise
Up to ep 8 in Gundam 00 s1
Seemed the gundam designer spent all of their attention on 00 and failed to give the creative energy to Age, Exia is certainly the best mobile suit of the three Im watching, Kirios, Dynames are fun too. Setsuna is as cool as Asemu.
Pretty epic start to the new gen. Kio has the worst design of the three mains (1. Asemu 2. Flit then 3. Kio), but has some nice potential for action
unfair that he is an X-rounder but Asemu wasnt :/
cant believe Big Ring was destroyed so swiftly after we defended it so intensely last season. Zehearto returned so I can only pray that Asemu isnt dead or something but out there with some new comparable in strength custom powerful mobile suit? Diva looked cool but could undergo some changes and am surprised Millias is still captain commander? What was that shillouette of a gundam in the OP with the odd take on a pirate flag? looked cool
Up to ep 8 in Gundam 00 s1
Seemed the gundam designer spent all of their attention on 00 and failed to give the creative energy to Age, Exia is certainly the best mobile suit of the three Im watching, Kirios, Dynames are fun too. Setsuna is as cool as Asemu.
Still waiting on that G Gundam sequel.
Waiting forever
Forever is a mighty long time.
distantmantra
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Caught up with AGE this morning and watched 27, 28 and 29.
Flit is one crazy motherfucker.
Flit is one crazy motherfucker.
donkey show
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Crossbone would be more exciting than Seed and 00 combined. Tobia as a protag trumps most of other protags in the Gundamverse.
Given X did better then Age using it as an excuse doesn't really hold much.
Also BOOOOO to more G. It was the worst Gundam, well unless you just take Domon and Asia and throw them into random adventures each week. Otherwise hell no, the characters and Gundams sucked.
Etrian Oddity
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Exia is the best non-UC mobile suit in decades. It's just so simple, but so fucking elegant (pure close-combat). Dynames was badass too (sniper!).
Hence why I said "production" as we have no idea what kind of format it's going be at this point
Y'know if Crossbone is similar conceptually to AGE. Then that doesn't really matter at all, considering people hate AGE because it's written by fucking hino, not because it has a childish premise, far from it.
BattleMonkey
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Crossbone and AGE are nothing alike outside of having a young protagonist to start. But that is like so new and unique to a gundam series right?
Hence why I said "production" as we have no idea what kind of format it's going be at this point
Y'know if Crossbone is similar conceptually to AGE. Then that doesn't really matter at all, considering people hate AGE because it's written by fucking hino, not because it has a childish premise, far from it.
Over half the people who hate Age I've talked to have no idea who is writing the thing. While a good amount of people like duckroll and others in the know hate AGE because of Hino lets not act like it didn't take a massive hit the moment they showed Flit and his groupies along side AGE -1. The art style killed it right out the gate for alot of people.
Femmeworth
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I like Exia, but it is a bit funky looking.
Yet I'm pretty sure Hino is responsible for the art style to begin with! (considering it's standard level 5 garbage) plus if we are talking art styles - aesthetically crossbone looks a hell of a lot more appealing then AGE.>_>
He very well might have. I'm just pointing out that Hino specifically wasn't likely the target for the people who where turned off by the art.
Well I would agree that Seabook and Crossbone X-1/X-2 are better then anything that that has come out of AGE so I would agree with Crossbone>AGE in art.
Etrian Oddity
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The Exia love is odd to me.
Just can't see why people love it. Honestly the only leads I've liked less are AGE-1 and Impulse.
Femmeworth
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The design is too top heavy, and then the legs are so thin.
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dat switchblade
BattleMonkey
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Loved Impulse and Exia heh. They had a great streamlined elegance to them instead of the constant bulking up of the Gundams and giant backpacks
Art style? People complaining about the look of AGE aren't going to like the look of Crossbone.
Crossbone also has a bunch of flat out stupid shit going on in it, like breathing in space or Newtype monkeys. Mech designs are also pretty awful outside of the Crossbones themselves.
If people are willing to not only accept Space Wizards but defend them for over 30 years that it was amazing and better then trying to at least make the big thing advancing tech/gene splicing or some shit that is at least a little more believable in fiction then I don't see the big deal with Newtype Monkeys.
Not really my thing, but that is why I'm generally not a UC fan but still that doesn't sound very out when compared to some shit the "realistic" UC part of the metaverse gets away with.
sixteen-bit
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I think Zeta Gundam is pretty vile looking if we're talking about hated suits now.
BattleMonkey
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Gundam fans are not against "stupid" shit, the series are jammed with them and lot of silly things.
People hate AGE because it's garbage in pretty much every aspect. Crappy characters, mecha design, and story. People aren't hating AGE just because of it's art
Zeta is pretty meh to me.
Then again I really love ZZ, and that thing is bulky as all hell and most people think it's ugly. Still it maybe a bit chuncky but I love the old girl.
Exes Gundam now, that thing is possibly the most WTF design in the franchise. Half the time I see the thing I really can't believe that Bandai released a MG of that thing.
Femmeworth
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Zeta Gundam looks fine. Now, ZZ Gundam looks rather ugly.
Bulky isn't necessarily a bad thing.
BattleMonkey
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Liked ZZ. Worst primary Gundam's to me have been the AGE-1 and V
If people who hate AGE hate it because of the mech designs or the writing... then they're still not going to like Crossbone.
I think most people want to see animated Crossbone so badly because they don't know what it is. Like with Hathaway's Flash, there's some weird mystique about it because most people have never been able to read it for themselves; they only hear about the basics of it and extrapolate some awesome kickass Gundam story from it that doesn't actually exist in the source material.
imo, the only Gundam stories that really deserve the animation treatment (off the top of my head) are Origin and Sentinel.
Victory shocked me when I found out it was a lead. He was just so boring when looking at him. Thankfully V2 looked alot better.
My biggest issue with Victory was that all the suits aside from V2 looked lame to me. Just wasn't a fan.
If it wasn't the bulk then whats the problem? I will give the sheilds on the back sides of the arms are dumb, but the colors are probably the best overall use out of all the Gundam leads and the Legs/Shoulders just look powerful.
I will admit the three forms of Mobile Armor are dumb as hell.
BattleMonkey
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Crossbone has some kick ass action that would be great to see animated, and people love the general Crossbone Vanguard designs. The biggest difference is people actually want to see Crossbone, like they want to see Hathaways Flash. It's no different from people wanting Unicorn originally. No one wanted to see AGE, from day 1 it was met with disdain and that put it in a bad position. AGE came out and didn't do anything to change anyones minds when it already gave a bad first impression.
Even the crappy Gundam series at least have had some fun characters or at least cool mecha porn for the eyes. But Gundam Age has not provided any of that either.
I'd be interested in a Sentinel show. The main mech's design is badass and it's literally alive. Don't know much beyond that.
lol who?
You missed my point entirely. A lot of people don't want to see Crossbone and Hathaway's Flash animated because they read them all and thought "wow, this is great!" They want them animated because some of the basic ideas just sound interesting.
I kind feel like more people were privy to Unicorn and reading that more so than with Crossbone and Hathaway's Flash, if only because of the internet, but I don't have any facts behind that, it's just a feeling.
uh, speak for yourself. I know I was hating on AGE when it was first announced and most of Gen 1 was a chore to get through, but I'm really enjoying it now as are a lot of people. I couldn't give two shits about how poorly it's selling, I have no interest in Gunpla and no stake in Bandai/Sunrise as a company. Sales numbers are hardly a measurement of quality anyway, ESPECIALLY if we're talking about anime.
You've also made it pretty clear that you don't even watch AGE, because really, who the fuck has watched this whole show and doesn't think at least Grodek and Woolf are cool characters?
BattleMonkey
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Sentinel would have to be a short OVA or greatly expanded on. The original story really is light on action too.
Sales aren't a great indication for Anime, but the continued extremely low ratings is.
Saying no one wants to watch it is ofcourse exagerration, but all facts show that the amount of people who do are very low in number.
Granted as I've said I have no idea about Crossbone as the only real follow up/side story I read is Frozen Teardrop and I activily hope that it's never animated.
:lol, for real, and I say that as a Wing fan. Wouldn't mind a Glory of the Defeated OVA though, as an Origin-like redo.
The thing is Frozen Teardrop is starting to work when the two sections are seperated from eachother.
If you just take Mars Era and whats going on and make the characters look origianl the story would work. Same if you took Twins and Heero and gave them unique looks that would also work.
It's just the writer has no ablity to connect the two timelines and make it work and I would be terrified to see them even attempt it in Anime.
BattleMonkey
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I don't think you noticed how popular and well received all the Crossbone Gundam stuff has done merchandise wise. The Crossbone Vanguard suits have all been fan favorites. I don't think you understand that I'm not talking about the Jupiter Empire here.
Fans had less actual knowledge of Unicorn than the other mentioned series. Crossbone has been translated for a long time and many hardcore fans have read it already. Much of the storylines have been laid bare for a long time. The events of Hathaways Flash are well known as well and much of it is spelled out in the old G Gen games. Unicorn was an unknown amongst the english speaking fan base as no one even did proper summaries of it outside of the first chapter. All people knew was that animated commercial for the novel series and the model kits which had the fans salivating. Being novels Unicorn was completely out of reach of non Japanese fans. No one knew how it was going to turn out here. But no one cared because it was a UC series with faptastic mecha designs. But Unicorn got animated before any real info about the actual content came out. But it also goes to show how good looking mechs does enough to get Gundam fans interested.
I'm not speaking for myself when it's plainly obvious that the overall reaction has been highly negative. The bashing of AGE exceeds anything in years of Gundam, all the fan boards and groups are crapping all over. The sales are in the crapper, and the ratings are damning.
You might like it, good for you, but that doesn't change the fact that the popular opinion of the show is highly negative.
Yeah, I've seen some summaries... Christ that shit sounds terrible, like the worst fan-fiction you could imagine. Thought I wanted a sequel to Gundam Wing a long time ago when I was a kid, but I think I'm fine having it end with Endless Waltz now.
Anyway, I don't know what the cure is for Gundam's problems, but they've got their work cut out for them. I'm not really sure an series adaptation of The Origin would be the wisest move... MSG feels like it's been done to death (maybe not to a younger generation though). The only way I could see that panning out well is if they do an OVA and refine the story a little bit.
Well Origins when they first announced it was for 26 Episodes right?
They would need to refine it as it is. I do think that Bandai HD and OVA's in the vain of Unicorn might be best for it but that is just me.
I would love an OVA of Mars Era FT so long as they just ignore everything from before AC 195.
No, they haven't announced any kind of format for Origin yet
Must have been reading rumors then.
Regardless a 50 Eps remake of MSG would be just to much after not only the original but SEED and AGE.
I wasn't aware there was an episode count to Origins already.
Anyway, OVAs would be ideal, and it'd be nice to see the original conflict play out in much better animation/music (that's been the hardest part about getting others into the UC stuff), but personally I'm just sick of the One Year War, especially after all the side stories, video games and AU Gundam series rehashing its setting/tropes to death. Unicorn's been great, because it's nice to revisit old friends (and timelines), but I think I've had my fill of UC nostalgia for now.
Femmeworth
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Speaking of UC, I finally ordered the Mobile Suit Gundam: Awakening, Escalation, Confrontation. Looking forward to reading it.
Been reading it on and off the past week. Pretty good stuff.
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