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The Sun: PlayStation has increased the price of the original Horizon: Zero Dawn from $14.99/$19.99 to $34.99/$39.99
FunkMiller
Member
Closed eco-system digital bullshit.
Unknown Soldier
Member
At least in US region yes they will definitely continue to make the disc drive optional because it lets them have the console price be whatever price but the real price for physical owners will be higher. A physical tax essentially
But in most other regions I expect that Sony will continue to sell the console both without and with the disc drive bundled
cash_longfellow
Member
Oh no! A price increase on a game that if you really wanted you would have bought for $10 on sale over the last several years. But now that there is a price increase after an announcement for a cheap ass upgrade to a remaster announcement, you want to make an issue out of it 
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Oh no! A price increase on a game that if you really wanted you would have bought for $10 on sale over the last several years. But now that there is a price increase after an announcement for a cheap ass upgrade to a remaster announcement, you want to make an issue out of it
cash_longfellow
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ExtendEmbraceExtinguish
Member
So pc was always the future regardless of the current ecosystem war.
That being said the horizon on ps5 pro looks amazing.
That being said the horizon on ps5 pro looks amazing.
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laynelane
Member
That makes sense. I can see why they did it now, but the optics are kind of terrible (as can be seen by the majority of comments in this thread).
OT: Despite the reasoning behind it, that is a big price jump for an older game. I have the physical copy of the game and have yet to play it, but I bought it a while ago for less than even the former 'cheap' price on the store.
Xaeroxcore666
Member
Why there always shows up people defending this kind of stuff?Oh no! A price increase on a game that if you really wanted you would have bought for $10 on sale over the last several years. But now that there is a price increase after an announcement for a cheap ass upgrade to a remaster announcement, you want to make an issue out of it
cash_longfellow
Member
I’m not defending anything. Where in
my post did I say “this kind of stuff” is a good thing to do for companies??
I’ll wait.
I’m calling people out who are trashing it for no reason other than to be trolls (or to hate on PlayStation if you really want to be technical). Make it make sense why people are mad about it?
Again, I’ll wait. People have had a whole lot of time to play the game if they were interested. If not, why does it matter? There are a lot of new PlayStation adopters in the last couple of years for reasons I won’t get into here because you know what I’m talking about. Maybe people that might enjoy this game for the first time? Idk man, just seems like people are acting like they are forced to buy the game regardless if they played it before….orrrrrrr….
Because they just want to bitch about things for whatever reason they have cooked up in their hate for certain console mind
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
Bitstream
Member
But now that there is a price increase ... you want to make an issue out of it
You indicating that others are making an issue of it implies that it's not an issue for you. That's where you defended it.
Corporations: Price gouge
You: Its ok because me and everyone else already brought it when it was cheaper
ssringo
Member
If this bothers you the solution is simple (depending on if you already own the original release):
- don't buy the base game at any price. ever.
- don't buy the upgrade at any price. ever.
- don't buy the remastered at any price. ever.
Recent months have shown how much consumers can hurt companies by spending their time and money on something that isn't bullshit. Complain all you want but if you still buy the game, they aren't going to care. There's plenty of other games out there. Buy something else that you feel is worthwhile.
- don't buy the base game at any price. ever.
- don't buy the upgrade at any price. ever.
- don't buy the remastered at any price. ever.
Recent months have shown how much consumers can hurt companies by spending their time and money on something that isn't bullshit. Complain all you want but if you still buy the game, they aren't going to care. There's plenty of other games out there. Buy something else that you feel is worthwhile.
JohnnyPhats
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Hawking Radiation
Member
I think I'm heading towards that point too. Sony 1st party this gen is beyond shit. Worse than PS2, PS3 and PS4 era.
Xbox shit itself and is no better.
No real groundbreaking games taking full advantage of these current gen consoles. I'm sorta interested in PS5 Pro at this point but its also crazy expensive. Right now I'd rather get bigger wheels for my car.
cash_longfellow
Member
Try again…you are literally putting words in my mouth. Read all of my posts again, except slower, don’t pick apart 1 or 2 sentences, and tell me I’m defending anything. I am not against what they are doing because it doesn’t affect me, that absolutely does not mean I am defending anything. Just because something isn’t an issue for me doesn’t mean I am defending it…that’s where you are confused. I am saying people that it has no impact on shouldn’t be so worked up about it for no reason.
And also, bro, don’t ever do this when trying to make a point to me…especially if your paraphrase is way off base. Don’t try to tell me what I meant with words that I didn’t say, that’s flat out disrespectful. “You: Its ok because me and everyone else already brought it when it was cheaper”.
Also, where in my post did I say I bought it??
Edit for shits and gigs. Just realized you used the term “price gouge”…tell me who told you this game is a necessity for you? Unless of course you are using the term incorrectly, or to embellish your point, or just flat out don’t really know what actual price gouging is.
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Broo
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
The real issue are you guys that want a digital only future. You know who you are!
yansolo
Member
this shit happens on steam too, the original space marine had its price jacked up before the release of 2, since elden ring the dark souls games are still priced as new releases and are almost never on sale (lucky i bought them a few years ago when they were dirt cheap) just some examples off the top of my head. Like others have said this is why companies are pushing for all digital. Buying pre owned or borrowing games off your friends is a thing of the past.
Also why is sony pushing this game so hard like it was some massive hit? i always thought it was average at best seeing my mate play it. Is it really that popular?
Also why is sony pushing this game so hard like it was some massive hit? i always thought it was average at best seeing my mate play it. Is it really that popular?
Hero of Spielberg
Member
I have to say it is quite fascinating to see all these gaming companies doing a speedrun on who can dickstomp themselves the hardest.
Johnny Concrete
Member
I want a digital only future, but with the prices of before the digital only future.
You know, when you could buy a 2 year old AAA game for €10 in a sale.
Bumblebeetuna
Member
If you enjoyed FW you’ll enjoy ZD. Imho it is better in every way. Better story, more challenging combat, much less bloat, and none of the (literally) on rails platforming from FW.
There is one interesting side character in ZD, which is one more than FW. The difference is they don’t throw 390 characters at you in ZD like they do FW.
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Xaeroxcore666
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I could bet most of the people complaining about this (and other recent anticonsumer Sony's cheap moves) are actually PS5 owners (like me). I have Horizon physical edición from 2017, i have the digital complete edition they gave away....I’m not defending anything. Where in
my post did I say “this kind of stuff” is a good thing to do for companies??
I’ll wait.
I’m calling people out who are trashing it for no reason other than to be trolls (or to hate on PlayStation if you really want to be technical). Make it make sense why people are mad about it?
Again, I’ll wait. People have had a whole lot of time to play the game if they were interested. If not, why does it matter? There are a lot of new PlayStation adopters in the last couple of years for reasons I won’t get into here because you know what I’m talking about. Maybe people that might enjoy this game for the first time? Idk man, just seems like people are acting like they are forced to buy the game regardless if they played it before….orrrrrrr….
Because they just want to bitch about things for whatever reason they have cooked up in their hate for certain console mind
Agree!
Evil Smurf King
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tommib
Banned
You have no idea how rich I am baby. Pre-ordering that anniversary Pro as we speak.
playbignbox
Member
After the terrible State of Play, nothing else from Sony disappoints me.
Sorcerer
Member
Are they trying to head off people getting a discount on the remaster?
In the near future it will only be digital. Even worse it will probably be all in the cloud sometime thereafter. If one does not accept the digital future, then the time to game has come to an end. Cloud gaming will also likely kill future emulation. When that happens retro gaming will go through the roof in prices and that will be a terrible option also unless you are happy with what you have already acquired and you can keep it all working.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Aloy's constant plastic surgeries and Botox aren't cheap.
Cyberpunkd
Member
I see same scummy tactic Sega pulled with Space Marine when SM2 was announced.
Bojanglez
The Amiga Brotherhood
The Playstation Collection? I don't think it was in that, I could be wrong though
Sorcerer
Member
I don't think Horizon was in the Playstation collection, but Sony had another program where they gave a free game a month to Playstation owners to keep forever. I remember telling an associate at work who wanted the game, but never pulled the trigger. I remember she was considering Death Stranding instead. I believe a Rachet and Clank was another one of the free games.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Wow. Nice moves. They don't give a fuck at this point. Gangsta
Bojanglez
The Amiga Brotherhood
I remember, it was the Play at Home initiative
Crayon
Member
dragonyeuw
Member
The flipside to that is I don't know of a consumer base that allows itself to be ripped off more than gamers. We should have said 'fuck you' at Horse Armor DLC.
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dragonyeuw
Member
I see alot of 'we're paying for Concord' but it's not that. Anyone notice that the TLOU part 2 PS4 hasn't gone on sale in a while?That game was getting routine discounts down to $10( check Deku deals) as recently as last year. Since the PS5 remaster, they don't want you to grab the PS4 version on sale and then do the $10 upgrade, in essence circumventing the $50 MSRP.
It's the same with Zero Dawn. In fact it's worse because with TLOU2, the MSRP had dropped to $40, so they merely stopped offering 75% off. They're actually RAISING Zero Dawn's price from $20 to $40, which is a special breed of scummy. Basically if you didn't take advantage of the $10 deals before, too bad so sad. But actually RAISING the price of a digital catalog release, something they've long made their money back on, something which is an intangible set of 1s and 0s with infinite 'stock', something they felt had devalued enough due to passage of time to be worth $20, a game they were GIVING AWAY during the lockdown 'play at home' initiatives.....like that Starfleet Admiral said in 'Picard':
"Sheer fucking hubris"
This is what happens when you don't have competition breathing down your neck to keep you in check. Last gen I was able to grab off PSN TLOU remastered, GOW, Until Dawn, Uncharted 4/LL, Zero Dawn all under $10 and Spiderman GOTY and Bloodborne for under $20. All of those purchases came within like 2 years of the games release. We are long, long past the Sony who was doing those kinds of promotions.
It's the same with Zero Dawn. In fact it's worse because with TLOU2, the MSRP had dropped to $40, so they merely stopped offering 75% off. They're actually RAISING Zero Dawn's price from $20 to $40, which is a special breed of scummy. Basically if you didn't take advantage of the $10 deals before, too bad so sad. But actually RAISING the price of a digital catalog release, something they've long made their money back on, something which is an intangible set of 1s and 0s with infinite 'stock', something they felt had devalued enough due to passage of time to be worth $20, a game they were GIVING AWAY during the lockdown 'play at home' initiatives.....like that Starfleet Admiral said in 'Picard':
"Sheer fucking hubris"
This is what happens when you don't have competition breathing down your neck to keep you in check. Last gen I was able to grab off PSN TLOU remastered, GOW, Until Dawn, Uncharted 4/LL, Zero Dawn all under $10 and Spiderman GOTY and Bloodborne for under $20. All of those purchases came within like 2 years of the games release. We are long, long past the Sony who was doing those kinds of promotions.
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RCU005
Member
This doesn't have to do anything about being digital. If they were able to rise the physical copies, they would. This is about them being a POS, because they don't want people to buy the vanilla cheap just to upgrade.
Do you mean the PS+ games that they gave away years ago with 20+ titles? I don't see why it wouldn't be elegible, since it's yours. If you mean via PS+ monthly games, then absolutely not.
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midnightAI
Banned
Yes, yes it is
dragonyeuw
Member
I don't think I'd give up gaming, unless you mean modern gaming and the AAA side. Recently most of my gaming has been on my Legion Go emulating old stuff and playing Indies. If you stick with the smaller games, smaller companies and avoid the Sonys,Microsoft/ABKs, EAs, Ubisofts of the world you can generally avoid some of the nonsense plaguing the industry. I just prefer to support the Indie companies in general, it's like shopping at your local mom and pop over Walmart when you can.
The only major company I really like now is Capcom. They just consistently drop great games and have mostly avoided some of the bullshit practices the other companies do. I hope it stays that way.
SyedDanishAnwar
Banned
$500..!! WT Heck?
Invest in a solar if you live in a house. I have nearly 4.2kw solar setup and pay meagre bills with mybhybrid setup. Also, it feels good I am doing my part for the environment.
PC owners are the king of their own eco system. Once you get over the initial hurdle of buying a gaming rig, its plain sailing with dirt cheap games, emulation, mods and so much more.
You can grab a PC version for as low as $10.
Just save $150 every month for the next 24 months. And each of you can belong to the PC master race.
I am saving for the same and ditching these drunk greedy console companie, esp. Sony and MS. I am not supporting these BS companies woth my wallet.
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yansolo
Member
oh ok
Cyberpunkd
Member
Happy I got it on Steam during last sale for 12.50€, I don't think the game will now go on sale ever, and the base version will get delisted once the remake launches.