Airship stretch goal at $3.75M?
Games have been sorely lacking Airships and Giant Sharks as of late.
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Torment: Tides of Numenera Kickstarter by InXile [Complete; $4.3 million funded]
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Airship stretch goal at $3.75M?
Games have been sorely lacking Airships and Giant Sharks as of late.
SquiddyCracker
Banned
Oh shit, I forgot to ask if the game would have cyborg-squids.
forknknife
Banned
Was going through some of the ideas and although I see many good ones already I find this one very intresting as my most common problem with role playing games is the lack of involvement with my character in the first stages of the story.
https://torment.uservoice.com/forum...3774294-psychological-test-to-determine-stats
Can't wait for this to come out already!
That would sure be a waste of the $3.5M goal...
It's just one of those self-fulfilling prophecies.
As much as I want this game to happen I just can't support the gross use of stretch goals. I've yet to play one of the stretch goal kickstarter games, to be fair, but games with a strong vision behind it, especially one like this, should include all of the important content from the beginning. Besides, the more content they add the more there is the chance that they'll rush it (or outsource it) and quality will suffer.
The scope of a project like this is flexible within a range. At minimum funding it can have a few writers and designers, they can pay for some music and no voice acting, and it can have the graphics complexity of something like Shadowrun Returns. At 4-5 million they can go with beautiful hand dawn touches on intricate prerendered backgrounds, an orchestral score, establishing voice acting work for the significant characters, and have enough writing talent for a diverse, fleshed out world with a well-developed backstory. At 10 million or 20 million or 40 million you can start thinking about the original vision possibly changing for the worse due to excessive funding.
I suppose it just comes down to trust. There are, or will be, people abusing the concept in a way that could weaken the game (just as DLC and microtransactions can do).. I will be supporting this project soon and I hope that my trust in them to do right by their inspiration is not misplaced.
They increase content and allocate the money for that content based directly on the additional funds they get, so there should ideally not be any waste.
Brother None
Member
One million's the minimum, yes, that'll get you a game (Brian would've chipped in 100K to hit that 1M). Less companions (companions are a huge overhead in RPGs), less locations, one gender, heavily reusing Wasteland 2's systems and even graphics, but still, being creative, could've made a much smaller, but good game.
But game design and especially RPG design is by its nature modular, even more so as our project lead Kevin Saunders from day 1 set out to include modular concepts so the budget becomes much more flexible. This applies to story, companions, reactivity, graphics, etc.
It's kind of like, one million's what was needed to do it, but in no way are we running out of plans we have outlined as our budget increases. And yes, all of it goes straight into the game, it has nowhere else to go.
But game design and especially RPG design is by its nature modular, even more so as our project lead Kevin Saunders from day 1 set out to include modular concepts so the budget becomes much more flexible. This applies to story, companions, reactivity, graphics, etc.
It's kind of like, one million's what was needed to do it, but in no way are we running out of plans we have outlined as our budget increases. And yes, all of it goes straight into the game, it has nowhere else to go.
I do that almost daily when I come home as well! I'm a "Shitbreak". :<
Only 800 away from the next level. That will be a huge Labyrinth
Vulcano's assistant
Banned
Too expensive, you need Cryengine for that.
I think the only path forward when reaching 10+ is to outright commit the spill over to future game develoment, if that's an acceptable stretch goal. Brother None highlighted what the minimum would've been if they ONLY reached a million, but if they somehow had an extra 5 million maybe that bare minimum on the next one would be higher, and the Kickstarter more a formality to ensure people really do want it.
EDIT: How did I confuse a million with a hundred?
Yeah, I don't see anything wrong with that sort of concept. Funding an expansion pack is also a viable option.
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Deleted member 102362
Unconfirmed Member
I would totally add more money to my pledge for an expansion pack, ala P:E.
I actually considered saying sequel, but I have a feeling this won't lend itself too well to at least a direct continuation of the story, but an expansion that can take place in the middle if need be? Yeah, that'd be nice to see actually.
OK. It was obvious to everyone outside inXile then. ;]
I don't regret the not pledging part, the missing out on the old school pc box's and stuff is what I regret missing out on.
superdeluxe
Member
Lol the MCA bump. Got to love it!
Its delivered a solid 80k day
superdeluxe
Member
That's huge considering it was doing 10-20k previously
yeah, I withhold my pledge until the final push.
indigo-cyclops
Member
I like the point that voice acting hinders where you can go with the story. Planescape did this so well with the dense, descriptive writing. I'm just thinking aloud, but I would be perfectly happy with them doing minimal voice acting especially considering the cost. In games like this I prefer to read at my own pace, not hang around waiting for the VA to finish.
Avellone is huge and I hope it pushes some good pledging from here on out.
Avellone is huge and I hope it pushes some good pledging from here on out.
honestly though, VA would probably be very important if they want to attract some new attention to this project. The game would feel rather incomplete without some form of VA.
Otherwise the need to have smaller chat screens that you walk through multiple panes instead of being handed a wall of text. This is more of a concern of just attracting people outside of the hardcore PS:T fans
indigo-cyclops
Member
Definitely agree, I'm just saying too much might hinder where they can go. I'm all for significant characters / scenarios getting some quality VA.
Yeah, I'm sure they can just make it an option to disable it. and I like the option of a varying sized text screens.
*wink wink, nudge nudge* brother none
Torment is a wall of text, though. You'd be happier with having to click three times as often just to have smaller text boxes?
Still, options are usually nice and it doesn't sound that hard to implement.
Wall of text is like "oh damn, now I have to read all of this" while a smaller one (none scrolling) where you just click through, you focus on one bit at a time. It just reduces the internal eye rolling of watching those walls pop up. Leaves the pretty art exposed too. so you can see who you may be talking to.
Yeah, I could honestly care less about all the deep conversations getting it. But it's needs VA in some form.
SquiddyCracker
Banned
I'm loving this.
Twist:
- If you will cheat for rest of the game your second personality will make life hard for you like randomly slaping important people.
Yep. There are seminal lines of voice that people remember from PS:T so I can see how a few lines here and there could be beneficial.
indigo-cyclops
Member
Totally agree here.
SquiddyCracker
Banned
Wow, funding really took off.
$2,948,936
pledged of $900,000 goal
53,944
Backers
Almost there for a new fathom.
$2,948,936
pledged of $900,000 goal
53,944
Backers
Almost there for a new fathom.