Probably a recast.
Apparently GreatJon's actor had his ear bitten off in a barfight. Which makes me want him to play the character even more.
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*UNMARKED SPOILERS ALL BOOKS* Game of Thrones |OT| - Season 6 Offseason Thread
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biosnake20
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Likely not the same poison. A much faster acting one.
That lying bastard Jon Snow.
Not in the show.
He wasn't at the Red Wedding so I believe Rickon and Osha headed to the Last Hearth
And thus it begins...
This is the reason I was hoping they wouldn't be using For the Watch as a season cliffhanger, it's going to loose all oomph next year when he gets resurrected, since everyone already knows he's at the set shooting.
Should've done FtW in ep 9 or 8 even, and done resurrection in ep 10. Then again, episodes leak, but anyway.
This is the reason I was hoping they wouldn't be using For the Watch as a season cliffhanger, it's going to loose all oomph next year when he gets resurrected, since everyone already knows he's at the set shooting.
Should've done FtW in ep 9 or 8 even, and done resurrection in ep 10. Then again, episodes leak, but anyway.
CitizenVectron
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Honestly though, 80% of the show's audience doesn't follow internet speculation about the show, they just sit down each week and watch.
biosnake20
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That other northern lord is Howland Reed. Oh and LSH hype.
The problem is that if people see him and take pics I feel like that will be all over newspapers and online. People won't be looking for it but they'll see it.
The problem is that if people see him and take pics I feel like that will be all over newspapers and online. People won't be looking for it but they'll see it.
Steelyuhas
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We haven't seen him since season 1 in the show, so they can kinda write in whatever they want.
Yeah, Preston is a bit much with his commentary, he misinterprets A LOT of things on the show, and honestly his voice is grating as fuck.. BUT, I thought the idea that Stannis would pull a tactic like that and use the other half of his army to flank Winterfell when the Bolton's thought the battle was over, and were thus unprepared, was pretty interesting and worth mentioning.
Mainstream media will pick it up and run with it, hell, a Swedish newspaper reported on some leaked pictures for episode 10 on the frontpage of their website.
Check the age. No way that's a recast. Way too young. It think they couldn't get Clive Mantle back so they're writing a son character.
Yep, a pretty niche story that only hardcore fans are paying attention to will still pop up in people's Facebook feeds. There's no hiding from it.
I was just about to say this. All in all, it's looking good. Can the Dorne shitshow be redeemed? We'll have to wait and see.
Edit: I was thinking about this yesterday, but the events of today have confirmed it: I enjoy the off-season a lot more than the on-season. There's something really exciting about all of the rampant speculation, only for our dicks to rapidly go flaccid when we see the final product.
Because they weren't just busting a nut in some whore, they loved those women and truly felt they were breaking their vows.
It was well known and nobody cared that much.
But why do you care? Book readers know (or should know) that he's coming back so it's not like it should have any great impact for us so why care if it does for non-readers?
Ooh, you're probably right.
Looking at it again that makes sense. Maybe this whole plotline
revolves around Sansa and Theon going to find Rickon
Stannis is really dead
why do I care? I simply stated that having for the watch as a season closer, was a mistake, and it would've been better without it. Edit: as in, resurrection instead of death as closer.
Why do I care? Cause I want to have as good of a show experience as possible, for me as a book reader, and for all of my friends, who've not read the books.
Geez, why even bother discussing things?
John Snow is like 6 inches tall.
I'm kind of feeling this, too. There is this brief period where I can take what I know about the plot from the books and ideas the show has introduced to change it, and create some weird hypothetical version of the story in my head somewhere between the two that ends up being way better than either. Then the real show version shows up and smashes it all.
Yeah, I could see them trying to go to Castle Black and stopping and Last Hearth along the way and finding Rickon that way. I think the big question is what do they do with Davos? Does he take up his book role of working with the Northern lords in some weird attempt to avenge Stannis? Does he go try to find Gendry as the last heir to the throne? No idea.
Also, I'm glad to get some confirmation that the Brotherhood is in, but I'm sad that it sounds like Beric will still be dead in this version. I'll be even more sad if it turns out they're writing out Thoros, too. Thoros was one of their best minor character adaptations.
Also, I'm glad to get some confirmation that the Brotherhood is in, but I'm sad that it sounds like Beric will still be dead in this version. I'll be even more sad if it turns out they're writing out Thoros, too. Thoros was one of their best minor character adaptations.
5'10 is probably the minimum where they could use filming tricks to create an illusion of height. any shorter than that and there's probably no way to pull it off.
I'm not criticizing you, I was genuinely curious because knowing him coming back doesn't affect the story for us. To me it's like knowing all the other plot points that I knew because I read the books. You care about the surprise of non-readers, I don't. I only care about my own enjoyment.
Kinda like before ADwD came out so some people.
I'm not criticizing you, I was genuinely curious because knowing him coming back doesn't affect the story for us. To me it's like knowing all the other plot points that I knew because I read the books. You care about the surprise of non-readers, I don't. I only care about my own enjoyment.
Kinda like before ADwD came out so some people.
Ha, yeah. I didn't pick up the books until after Dance was out, but I'm sure Winds will be like that. Except I still trust GRRM to create twists I didn't see coming that I'll actually like and feel earned, unlike the disappointment I get with show changes.
A big part of the enjoyment of the series for me is the thoughts my non-reader friends have on the plot, and the surprises and so on, it sort of helps in seeing the show "through new eyes". Actually helps me enjoy the show more, specially when it diverges a lot from the books.
They should straight up start next season with the Tower of Joy. No explanation, young actors, baby being taken away.
Then they cut to Jon Snow on the ground. Melisandre runs up and resurrects him, he escapes into the woods with Davos.
Whitewalkers breach the gate and overrrun the night's watch.
Cut to Sansa and Theon escaping Winterfell, they run smack into Brienne and Pod who have propped Stannis back to health. Sansa says "We have to find my brothers." They embark on a journey that will eventually lead them to the Umbers.
Satan pats himself on the back for beating Stannis, but Roose once again scolds his son for losing Sansa and apparently bedding the kennel master's daughter. He challenges his son to recaim what has been lost, so Ramsay sets out on another "hunt". Only this time, he is cornered in the woods by the Brotherhood without Banners, who hang him.
Dany meets the new Khalisar who is extremely impressed with her dragons and armies she has built up. They want to aid in her quest to return to Meereen in exchange for women and spoils. She begrudgingly promises what they want in exchange for their help.
Meanwhile in Meereen, a siege has begun. Thousands of men are attempting to infiltrate the city, and Tyrion and Varys realize this problem is bigger than what they can placate with a few political maneuvers.
In King's Landing, Margaery is freed and Loras is executed for his crime. King Tommen is found stabbed to death in his chambers under mysterious circumstances. The city is in uproar, and the Lannisters kick the sparrows out of KL. The High Sparrow flees. Lancel is killed.
In Braavos, Arya is blind, at least temporarily. She begins to adapt to her new reality, learning the full depth of what she's done. She continues her training the HBW.
Off the Dornish shore, Jaime returns Trystane to Dorne, explaining what has happened. Doran is furious and immediately executes Ellaria. He realizes that the alliance with the Lannisters is broken, and prepares for war with the crown.
In the Vale, Littlefinger meets with Robin and the other lords to convince the knights to fight and take Winterfell. They don't trust him because he has lost Sansa, and will not help him. They remain neutral.
We rejoin the Greyjoys in the aftermath of Balons death, and Euron is eager to plunder the high seas and stir up some trouble with the houses that have wronged his family. Both he and Yara realize that they cannot attempt another attack on the Boltons as they have too many dogs.
New bros Jorah and Daario set out to find Dany, but find only vast stretches of desert. They will probably adopt another character's storyline as Jorah's clobberin' time gets worse.
Bran is back (likely recast), and learns even more about his warging powers. He also sees things in the past and things that haven't happened yet. Meera Reed returns home. Hodor stays.
Then they cut to Jon Snow on the ground. Melisandre runs up and resurrects him, he escapes into the woods with Davos.
Whitewalkers breach the gate and overrrun the night's watch.
Cut to Sansa and Theon escaping Winterfell, they run smack into Brienne and Pod who have propped Stannis back to health. Sansa says "We have to find my brothers." They embark on a journey that will eventually lead them to the Umbers.
Satan pats himself on the back for beating Stannis, but Roose once again scolds his son for losing Sansa and apparently bedding the kennel master's daughter. He challenges his son to recaim what has been lost, so Ramsay sets out on another "hunt". Only this time, he is cornered in the woods by the Brotherhood without Banners, who hang him.
Dany meets the new Khalisar who is extremely impressed with her dragons and armies she has built up. They want to aid in her quest to return to Meereen in exchange for women and spoils. She begrudgingly promises what they want in exchange for their help.
Meanwhile in Meereen, a siege has begun. Thousands of men are attempting to infiltrate the city, and Tyrion and Varys realize this problem is bigger than what they can placate with a few political maneuvers.
In King's Landing, Margaery is freed and Loras is executed for his crime. King Tommen is found stabbed to death in his chambers under mysterious circumstances. The city is in uproar, and the Lannisters kick the sparrows out of KL. The High Sparrow flees. Lancel is killed.
In Braavos, Arya is blind, at least temporarily. She begins to adapt to her new reality, learning the full depth of what she's done. She continues her training the HBW.
Off the Dornish shore, Jaime returns Trystane to Dorne, explaining what has happened. Doran is furious and immediately executes Ellaria. He realizes that the alliance with the Lannisters is broken, and prepares for war with the crown.
In the Vale, Littlefinger meets with Robin and the other lords to convince the knights to fight and take Winterfell. They don't trust him because he has lost Sansa, and will not help him. They remain neutral.
We rejoin the Greyjoys in the aftermath of Balons death, and Euron is eager to plunder the high seas and stir up some trouble with the houses that have wronged his family. Both he and Yara realize that they cannot attempt another attack on the Boltons as they have too many dogs.
New bros Jorah and Daario set out to find Dany, but find only vast stretches of desert. They will probably adopt another character's storyline as Jorah's clobberin' time gets worse.
Bran is back (likely recast), and learns even more about his warging powers. He also sees things in the past and things that haven't happened yet. Meera Reed returns home. Hodor stays.
Ape Gone Insane
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It's hard to gauge from a book reader perspective but it doesn't really feel like there has been much build-up of R+L=J in the show. I mean, there's been a few lines of dialogue but outside of that, there doesn't seem to have been much emphasis on his parentage. Have non-book readers really been aware of the mystery or has it been under the radar for them? If there really hasn't been that much, a Tower of Joy flashback would be a bit left field. We don't really have those inner thoughts of Ned to play off in the show.
Admiral Woofington
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to be fair isn't he going on foot in the novels too?
There's been exactly ZERO fucking buildup. In the novels there's constant rumors of "oh man eddard and this girl, and this other girl"
This is actually perfect. They really should just kill Ramsay off in one of the first episodes to atone for last season.
Tower of Joy, Jon's revival, White Walkers overruning the wall and slaughtering the Night's Watch, and Ramsay's death would make for an incredible season opener.
Shit,that makes so much sense, Ramsey has the mad Targaryan incest blood and has plot armour.
In the books he stops marching on Winterfell once the horses are dead. He holes up at the lake village and forces the Boltons to come to him.
Roose has actually been loyally executing on Ned's vision this whole time. Even when he murdered Ned's own son, it was because he knew that Robb would kill Ramsay when he found out about him burning Winterfell. King Ramsay had to be protected. It's what Ned would have wanted.
Stallion Dan
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I checked, the brother's do sneak off to mole town for whoring. It's known by the Lord Commander and he doesn't care. Also happens in ADWD with wilding prisoners.
The vows are there to make sure no man has his loyalty split between family or anything else, and to make sure is no privilage in the Night's Watch (like could be given to a son). Celibacy is encouraged because that's the easiest way to stop fathering a child or falling in love, but it isn't something enforced.
I mean, if the vows are being twisted to protect wildlings, what's a little whoring?
Admiral Woofington
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"STOP TALKING ABOUT THE BOOKS GUYS, UGH JEEZ"
Except they constantly bring up GRRM.
Liquidsnake
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Maybe its to film him being burned or some shit right?
It doesn't mean hes coming back to life.
It doesn't mean hes coming back to life.
There wasnt ANY until this Season. So why bring it up now if not to make it matter?
demosthenes
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He is.
Liquidsnake
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Admiral Woofington
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I hope the show reboots as an 80's gang warfare in this vibrant pink noir setting show. We already have the art
The Smoking Bun
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Would that be a bad twist? What if The Joker is the only one who can defeat Darkseid?
StopMakingSense
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Yeah, those shits can eat it.
Admiral Woofington
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All of the night watch besides Sam and that one dude who was buddies with Jon and Sam can die for all I care.
Wildlings are the true bros.
I want Ollie to die in a fire though. To revive Jon.
Wildlings are the true bros.
I want Ollie to die in a fire though. To revive Jon.
Ganzlinger
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