adamsappel
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Show-Rickon will have to be completely different from Book-Rickon. Book-Rickon is, what, eight-years-old in the books at this point?
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*UNMARKED SPOILERS ALL BOOKS* Game of Thrones |OT| - Season 6 Offseason Thread
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You Know Nothing
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Did a bit of a search and book Rickon is only five at this point.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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Since ASoFaI is kinda like the medieval ages, the chars ages are pretty "realistic". Back then, people did not get older than 35-40 years ... so they didn't really wait for you to turn 18 to get a sword in the hand/get married. ^^
Think of it, Sean Bean might have been dead even earlier. ^^
But of course, for the show, this range of ages was not realistically to pull off. I'm glad they adjusted them.
Of course they got older than that, the average life expectancy was much lower but that was primarily due to infant mortality, once you made it past childhood the worst was over.
Just because the life expectancy of someone at birth is 40 doesn't mean a 40 year old is considered old and close to death in that society.
ToyMachine228
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Davos would be great as someone else's Hand, or as a member of the Small Council. Or just a trusted adviser. Something like that.
Steelyuhas
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George has said in hindsight he wished he started the series with everyone a bit older, which I assume is probably aged up to what the TV series did.
Basileus777
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The book ages are a bit too low, especially with medieval people who hit puberty later. Jon is probably the hardest to believe, as someone that young wouldn't likely be able to keep up with hardened adults in a fight. Loras falls into that category too. At least with Robb you never really see him fight, he mostly acts as a commander.
That is a load of nonsense. Average life expectancy was so low because many children died due to disease but once someone reached adulthood they had a decent chance of living to their late fifties. Human physiology hasn't changed either, the ability of a 15 year old to wear battle armour and swing a sword is still rather low. The ages of the Stark children is one of the stupidest parts of the books.
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Yeah, the lack of hygiene and medicine, famine, war etc. made sure those people back than led a healthy and lengthy life.
Dude, I live in a city with archived records and roots dating back to when the Romans were living here due to conquering.
People barely lived beyond those ages, that had various reasons.
Oh btw.: It is a fact that humans nowadays get older and older.
And full plate armor was never really suitable for fighting. Leather and chain armor was more common, and a 15 year old who was used to work since early childhood should be able to lift a sword...
The ages are ok, Cercei's most likely real life equivalent, Margaret of Anjou, was married at 15 and died at 52, her son, Jeoffrey's equivalent, Edward of Westminster, died in battle at age 17.
The inaccurate thing is the flashiness of battles, but realistic sword fighting is something no one wants to see on TV.
The inaccurate thing is the flashiness of battles, but realistic sword fighting is something no one wants to see on TV.
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Not really. People have been living to their 50s and 70s for thousands of years. It was just much more likely to die before then either in childhood due to disease or young adulthood due to war, but human lifespan potential has not changed and has had no reason to.
Basileus777
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Well that's not true either. Humans do live longer today thanks to modern medicine (especially antibiotics) even when you factor in infant mortality. You need only look at the demographics of modern societies to see how much longer we live compared to pre-industrial societies. Life expectancy has doubled in the past 150 years.
I mean
PsychoSoldier
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Looks like that rumor had something to it then. Should be interesting.
I'm wondering if I should change my Xbox gamertag into something Game of Thrones related... I wouldn't mind to spend the $10 to do so, but I just can't find something worthwhile.
I would've spent the money to change my gamertag without any hesitation if I could choose RhaegarOnTheTrident, but I can't use more than 15 characters.
I would've spent the money to change my gamertag without any hesitation if I could choose RhaegarOnTheTrident, but I can't use more than 15 characters.
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MagicWithEarvin
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heh yeah major fuck up on his part
"i can tell you how long but heres how old I'll probably be"
WaffleTaco
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It pretty much confirms that it's 8 seasons...maybe 8 seasons with Part A and Part B
bodyofanamerican
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Good lord at these spoilers posted on Reddit just now, concerning Jaime, Tommen and Marg and some detail on a season 6 scene they filmed yesterday. Surprised they were able to glean this much info.
Link to reddit post: Reddit ASOIAF link
FYI, their source is an IMDB link that seems to be busted, translating from what I believe is a Spanish news source.
"It begins with the High Sparrow going down the Septs stairs while the people applaud him. He explains that Queen Margaery has joined them in accepting the power of the Faith. Just then, Jaime Lannister bursts into the scene, on horseback and leading an army of a hundred and forty Tyrell soldiers, and demands that the High Sparrow free Queen Margaery. Suddenly, the gates of the Great Sept open it is Tommen Baratheon, followed by Queen Margaery and the Kingsguards, who are bearing the Faith Militants sigil instead of the Royal sigil. The king and queen have accepted the High Sparrows reformed faith, and they are acclaimed by the people. It is emphasized that this is only the first part of the scene; the rest will be filmed today, and it is expected to be a trascendental scene in which the two factions come to blows."
Link to reddit post: Reddit ASOIAF link
FYI, their source is an IMDB link that seems to be busted, translating from what I believe is a Spanish news source.
demosthenes
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I hope
after losing his daguther Jaime just goes full on crazy and says "YOU ARE MY SON, ENOUGH WITH THIS SHIT"
This is my hope, too. We're long overdue
Jaime actually doing something memorable and of his own volition.
jamesmccloud
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wellthereitis.gif
Sounds awesome.
Lactose_Intolerant
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I doubt we see anymore. Maybe if Trystan is still on the council. Though I'm betting he got off the ship once he found out his gf was murdered.
They really butchered that storyline.
They really butchered that storyline.
You Know Nothing
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Yeah, hoping it's swept under the rug and allowed to be forgotten.
How could you forget to mention OYSTERS, CLAMS, AND COCKLES?
How could you forget to mention OYSTERS, CLAMS, AND COCKLES?
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Cornballer
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He's very good on Da Vinci's Demons. Nice fit for the show.
RatskyWatsky
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I approve of all of those choices.
CitizenVectron
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1. People have lived to 70 years old for thousands of years. Yes of course many more died of diseases we can cure today, but large numbers reached old age. The life expectancy numbers were weighed down by infant and child mortality. This is true up until the early 20th century when running water and electricity started to permeate western society. But we know that even though life expectancy was really low even in the late 19th century, that many many people lived into old age. It's simply a recorded fact.
2. Swords are really light, usually weighing no more than 2.5-3.5 pounds. We like to imagine them as heavy, but in reality swords were (and are) light enough to be wielded by a single hand. Even great swords were under 5 pounds. It's just a modern myth that they were heavy.
It's doubled because half of children don't die any more. If you take out the death of infants and children, then the life expectancy of 2,000 years ago would probably be in the mid-50s to early-60s. People obviously died of many preventable things that we can treat today, but many of them lived to old age. It's well recorded.
Basileus777
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I know, I wasn't arguing otherwise. The person I was quoting had an opinion on the other extreme where he thought people don't live longer today, which is wrong. Life expectancy is significantly higher even when factoring in only adults. Obviously some people in pre-industrial times lived until their 70s, but a higher percentage of people do it now.
ShadowSwordmaster
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Those are great choices.
Man oh man, they all seem perfect. Gold strikes again.
btw, so we assume McShane is playing Meribald, the thing is, I really don't remember his character from AFFC, what exactly did he do? From that book I only remember Jaime, Cersei and Victarion's chapters, to be honest.
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