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Upscalers, CRTs, PVMs & RGB: Retro gaming done right!

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Mega

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Timu said:
Dat SNES is yellowed as fuck.=O I never seen one in person/had a yellowed SNES before and I have 2 of them.
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It's Nintendo's fault! Some of the sourced plastic was prone to oxidation. On mine only the bits around each controller port are yellow. Google SNES yellow to see consoles with a random mish mash of yellow and pristine parts.
 
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geniusbits

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monkeymagic84 said:
Whew. BVM bidding wars on ebay the past couple of hours. A seller put up a handful starting at pretty low bids, which rarely happens. Most are greedy and throw them up at 3x what anyone wants to pay and hope a sucker bites. I managed to grab a G model for under $200 shipped and picked up a BKM-10R control unit on the side.
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You following that Lorton, VA seller? I have been and they must be some company offloading their BVMs cause it's been a steady couple going on eBay a week. Almost always listed starting at $99 but the good ones get into the $300s territory at the end. Funny story two weekends ago I drove down from NJ to North Carolina for a wedding and passed the Lorton exit. If I had put aside any money for it and had the time I would have suggested to the wife to take a short detour and try and contact those sellers for a quick pick up sale.
 
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geniusbits

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What would you guys consider the perfect (within reason) SCART/input switch?

Edit: To clarify I don't mean something available now, I mean for designing something not currently on the market. A fantasy input management switch.
 
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Heero5

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geniusbits said:
What would you guys consider the perfect (within reason) SCART/input switch?

Edit: To clarify I don't mean something available now, I mean for designing something not currently on the market. A fantasy input management switch.
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No signal degradation, crosswalk, or voltage leaking is a must. I use 12 scart cables so 12 inputs or less inputs but has the ability to Daisy chain multipul switches togeather. Separate RCA inputs for external audio is a nice touch. I prefer manual switching over automatic but that's a personal preference. I feel a remote is unnecessary even if I really like it :) I also like when you can use a generic scart to scart cable for the switch over say a mini din. I've had a switch that had the scart inputs on the back instead of the top and after switching to a top loader I much prefer that as switching cables in and out is much easier.
 
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Anyone know if this http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-SCART-RGB-to-YUV-Component-Video-Converter-Scaler/221156873851?_trksid=p2047675.c100010.m2109&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D33058%26meid%3D51b5f6fc008f405eb827349fd3eb7e55%26pid%3D100010%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D10%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D220833672632 or this http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ananlog-Scart-RGBS-To-Component-RGB-YUV-Video-Format-Converter/311433685833?_trksid=p2047675.c100010.m2109&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D33058%26meid%3D51b5f6fc008f405eb827349fd3eb7e55%26pid%3D100010%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D220833672632 is a better SCART>>>YUV transcoder?
 
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Mega

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geniusbits said:
You following that Lorton, VA seller? I have been and they must be some company offloading their BVMs cause it's been a steady couple going on eBay a week. Almost always listed starting at $99 but the good ones get into the $300s territory at the end. Funny story two weekends ago I drove down from NJ to North Carolina for a wedding and passed the Lorton exit. If I had put aside any money for it and had the time I would have suggested to the wife to take a short detour and try and contact those sellers for a quick pick up sale.
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I'm not following the Lorton seller, just happened to search ebay and saw the listings. I did contact the seller before bidding. He confirmed having more units, untested, that would eventually go up for auction.

The perfect scart switch? This with 12 Scart inputs.

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geniusbits said:
You following that Lorton, VA seller? I have been and they must be some company offloading their BVMs cause it's been a steady couple going on eBay a week. Almost always listed starting at $99 but the good ones get into the $300s territory at the end. Funny story two weekends ago I drove down from NJ to North Carolina for a wedding and passed the Lorton exit. If I had put aside any money for it and had the time I would have suggested to the wife to take a short detour and try and contact those sellers for a quick pick up sale.
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Are you kidding me? That is right in my area and someone got a hold of a bunch of good sets and is selling them on ebay?

Edit: Really frustrated about this as it means that there is no chance at getting them in my area again if someone is out there getting them all to sell on ebay. :c
 
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Zerokku

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So what are the best framemeister settings for a PS2 with component in? I have the official PS2 component cables and have been using it for a while now and on a lot of games it can often feel like the image is a little... fuzzier? than it should be? Far better than straight component -> TV, but still. Maybe I'm just so used to how crisp an RGB SNES looks via the framemeister.
 
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oh man i havent checked it in a bit bu that one guy's page from the SHMUPs forum totally had profiles for PS2 component, i use his RGB ones myself
 
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Balb

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geniusbits said:
You following that Lorton, VA seller? I have been and they must be some company offloading their BVMs cause it's been a steady couple going on eBay a week. Almost always listed starting at $99 but the good ones get into the $300s territory at the end. Funny story two weekends ago I drove down from NJ to North Carolina for a wedding and passed the Lorton exit. If I had put aside any money for it and had the time I would have suggested to the wife to take a short detour and try and contact those sellers for a quick pick up sale.
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Weird that you bring that guy up. I live 30-40 minutes away and picked mine up locally from him maybe 3 weeks ago.
 
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geniusbits

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Balb said:
Weird that you bring that guy up. I live 30-40 minutes away and picked mine up locally from him maybe 3 weeks ago.
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So you're one of the people pushing these things to $300!!!?!!!?
No hate I'm just waiting for the bottom to drop out so I can snag one cheaper. I can't justify paying for an XRGB mini + a <$200 monitor.
 
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PumpkinSpice

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D.Lo said:
What is it with Americans being unable to pronounce composite.

'ComPAAASit' - wrong

COMPoSIT - correct

You pronounce it the same as 'Composition'. But they don't say 'ComPAAARsition'.

Composite is composed of the composition of colour and brightness and sync.
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American English is all about not caring how things are pronounced.
 
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catabarez

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Those RGB videos are very informative.

D.Lo said:
What is it with Americans being unable to pronounce composite.

'ComPAAASit' - wrong

COMPoSIT - correct

You pronounce it the same as 'Composition'. But they don't say 'ComPAAARsition'.

Composite is composed of the composition of colour and brightness and sync.
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While I can't say why the o sounds like on, it seems that emphasis is placed on the second syllable, similarly to compose. Accents, what can you do? :p
 
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D.Lo

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Doesn't help when 90% of youtube gaming goons seem to be from the Northeast too, so they have that long vowel accent.
 
entremet

entremet

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Gotta accept regionalism, D.Lo.

Language is a living thing. At least we speak a language that's as widespread as it is.

God bless the Queen.
 
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NormalFish

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SNES video is pretty good. Wish I had the cash to get in to SNES collecting but every time I feel like diving in I remember that it's 5x more expensive than PSX or Gameboy (which are the systems I enjoy collecting most) and I walk away.
 
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entremet

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NormalFish said:
SNES video is pretty good. Wish I had the cash to get in to SNES collecting but every time I feel like diving in I remember that it's 5x more expensive than PSX or Gameboy (which are the systems I enjoy collecting most) and I walk away.
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Now is the best time. It will only get worse.

It also depends what type of collector are. Are you going for full libraries, or just your favs?

If its the latter, it's a bit more doable. You just need to be patient.
 
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NormalFish

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entrement said:
Now is the best time. It will only get worse.

It also depends what type of collector are. Are you going for full libraries, or just your favs?

If its the latter, it's a bit more doable. You just need to be patient.
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If I had steady income for sure, but unfortunately that's not the case.
 
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entrement said:
Now is the best time. It will only get worse.

It also depends what type of collector are. Are you going for full libraries, or just your favs?

If its the latter, it's a bit more doable. You just need to be patient.
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"It will only get worse" seems like the motto of retro game collecting at this point. SNES games have already gone way past the deep end, but it's true that it will only get worse.
 
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theSlacker said:
"It will only get worse" seems like the motto of retro game collecting at this point. SNES games have already gone way past the deep end, but it's true that it will only get worse.
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Especially as collector culture spreads. People are keeping their games and removing them from the circulating stock and they're not making any more, so....
 
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entrement said:
Especially as collector culture spreads. People are keeping their games and removing them from the circulating stock and they're not making any more, so....
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Combined with the fact that people that do sell them will always want to get what they payed for a game, and would rather more, there is little reason for prices to drop. Every so often a game that hasn't been re-released will be given another way for people to play it, and that can cause the original version to drop for a bit, but it never seems to be that much or for very long.

Takes us right back to "It will only get worse" with an extra "why would anything ever get better?". What can I say, as I'm part of the problem. Games that get to me will never see the market again.
 
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Balb

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geniusbits said:
So you're one of the people pushing these things to $300!!!?!!!?
No hate I'm just waiting for the bottom to drop out so I can snag one cheaper. I can't justify paying for an XRGB mini + a <$200 monitor.
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Nah, I didn't buy the monitor through eBay. I messaged him on eBay and he told me to come to his location and pick one out and we negotiated on price.
 
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Madao

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entrement said:
Castlevania in a Sim City case?

Not familiar with removing the tabs? Or does the SNES mini have a different design?
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FSLink said:
There's an SD card coming out of the case, so it's an Everdrive or an SD2SNES most likely.
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yeah, that's what it is.

i've got an Everdrive 64 in a Mario Party cart because the MP cart was DOA.
these don't come with the cart case and it costs extra so people sometimes just prefer to grab some old and dead cart to use as a case instead.

edit: i got around recording a 60 fps video of Game Boy Interface. i could only play with the regular version and the LL version since i don't have anything that can display the ULL version.

Youtube video
direct download for those that don't want to deal with YT
 
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geniusbits

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What do you guys think about using this pro NEC plasma monitor for something like Dreamcast connected VGA by BNC or Framemeister connected HDMI>>>VGA or HDMI>>>DVI conversion? http://www.pcworld.com/product/1417556/nec-px-50xm4a-plasma-display.html
Says it does "480p 480i, 525p, 525i, 540p, 625p, 625i, 720p,1035i, 1080i"
When you have a monitor with those resolutions what is the native one, or is it like an HD BVM where everything from 480i to 1080i/702p is native? If that's how this works I think this is great, you could plug Dreamcast into VGA, newer systems into component or convert the HDMI, which you could also do with Framemeister HDMI out.
 
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Umibozu

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Finally joining rgb gaf.
Ordered a snes jp21 cable off of ebay to use on my xrgb mini. The cable is csync although my snes is an original model. Hopefully the results aren't too bad. I'm sure it'll be a major improvement over composite and if the cables are good I'll also order a rgb cable for my model 1 genesis.

edit: I know it's a little late to be asking this but the jp21 cable should work with the cable that came with the xrgb mini right?
 
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