Resident_UA
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Guess what? 30000 emails thing is working. Democrats need to do more of this if they want to win. At this point the fight is not for well educated voters but for idiots who still can't decide.
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US Vice-Presidential Debates 2016 |OT| Your Big Awkward Family Reunion
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PistolGrip
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Man who is this John Podesta... He is a terrible spinner.
Same.
Mass Effect
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And, unfortunately, it will work (at least with white voters).
You give Americans' attention spans too much credit. It will be ancient history by then.
Rats Off To Ya
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Honestly, whatever shakes out from this debate, it will all be forgotten after the next one when Trump goes on for two minutes about how fat Alicia Machado is.
They didn't, though Kaine did hit Putin on it when talking about Trump's fanboying over Putin.
KO Traveling Hobo
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iirc, Kaine criticized Putin's treatment of the LGBT community. I guess that's something...?
He can repeat his strategy from today: pretend it never happened.
I assumed it was supposed to be Clinton/Trump.
djplaeskool
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Sooooo...
basically it's a draw and as most posited at the fore, none of this will matter in 24 hours
basically it's a draw and as most posited at the fore, none of this will matter in 24 hours
Version 3.0
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Pence won if you "watched with the sound off", as they say. Kaine won on content.
It's a damn shame that most Americans have the sound off in their heads even if the TV sound is on.
It's a damn shame that most Americans have the sound off in their heads even if the TV sound is on.
It's kind of hysterical that Pence is the VP and Trump is the POTUS canidate after comparing their debate performances. Pence is a piece of shit, but he obviously knows how to handle politics far better than Trump.
I wonder what their relationship is like. Like if Pence just kind of hates Trump and is just using him to possibly get his own ticket one day, and if Trump thinks he's really the top dog and really likes to make Pence know that. And Pence just takes it. Like a cartoon duo where the sidekick really is the hero that always cleans up the main character's mistakes.
Lawl.
I wonder what their relationship is like. Like if Pence just kind of hates Trump and is just using him to possibly get his own ticket one day, and if Trump thinks he's really the top dog and really likes to make Pence know that. And Pence just takes it. Like a cartoon duo where the sidekick really is the hero that always cleans up the main character's mistakes.
Lawl.
She literally told mothers watching the debate how they should feel.
That'll work really well against Clinton. I'm sure she'll forget all that.
Lord Frieza
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Oh Lord, are you a 'Clinton News Network' person, doesn't surprise me lol. You're such a sham. Despite the claims of many, CNN is, overall, a pretty conservative network.
It won't matter.
2020 will be Hillary's to lose. The demographic trends are just way too strong.
Rats Off To Ya
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The shocking secret is that VP debates never really matter.
lol Pence did fuck all for Trump tonight. Pence should be blowing himself for taking lying Teds spot in the Republican party tonight.
Unless I'm just missing it, there is no actual evidence that this is true yet. Other than the Clinton campaign, the only sources the news organizations are using are "anonymous sources". I would like some actual evidence of this, other than the Clinton campaign saying it. (Honestly I want to believe it, but I have just heard zero credible evidence).
Skellig Gra
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People forget about shit really fast.
Almost no questions were answered in depth. Kaine would briefly answer a question in the opening few words of his response while Pense would never answer the question until the follow up (giving him 3 minutes to answer instead of the usual 2)
Well, that's because Trump isn't an experienced politician (still can't believe Pence said that).
Thank you. Can we all admit that if you're undecided at this point, you either shouldn't be voting or just a complete idiot. Simple talking points is the right way to go in my opinion.
DizzyCaffeine
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You know the weird thing...if this ticket was flipped and Pence was running for POTUS and Trump was running for VP, the GOP might have a winner on their hands.
RPGCrazied
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And do you really think people are going to watch this and go, wow, I think I must vote for Trump just cause Pence was a good debater? Give me a break.
QuantumZebra
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I think Nate Silver tweeted that Pence "won" the debate but Kaine won the post-debate debate.
TBH it makes sense now... Kaine pulled out a tie between them by forcing Pence into throwing Trump under the bus. The quotes Kaine busted out on Trump are gonna make the rounds.
NYR
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lol, you missed the joke, boss.Que?
Not to mention the man falls apart once you start looking at his failed policies. He's benefits from the fact the focus is just on Trump.
Byakuya769
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Moderator sucked. She tried to insert herself too often and too rigidly. Unless you can cut mics, fighting over time and time reminders just messes up the debate's flow.
Kaine certainly didn't forget any of the shit Trump's been spewing for the past year, but that didn't stop Pence from pretending it didn't happen. I don't think its a good strategy, but it seems to be all Pence has.
Monocle
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Yeah, he'll be even more effective once he polishes his technique. Who knew Kaine had that fire in him though? I know he must have gone through hell to prepare, but I've never seen someone swat down pro-Trump talking points in such rapid fashion with specific fact-based responses. He's a lean mean bullshit killer. For all the hot air Pence tried to spout, he found himself spitting ice cubes.
Velcro Fly
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these spin doctors on CNN right now though lmao
TheGreatMightyPoo
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He'll have to get over that along with his hatred of gays and not even being wanted in this backward state of Indiana.
Said this in PoliGAF:
Pence might "win" the debate, but he did so at a price. Because he's going to lose every fact check on this debate. Every. Single. One.
And him denying every charge against Trump (even the shit EASILY disproven) has given #TeamClinton PLENTY of fodder to take onto the campaign trail.
Pence lost the long game tonight.
Pence might "win" the debate, but he did so at a price. Because he's going to lose every fact check on this debate. Every. Single. One.
And him denying every charge against Trump (even the shit EASILY disproven) has given #TeamClinton PLENTY of fodder to take onto the campaign trail.
Pence lost the long game tonight.
I remember when Cheney went against Edwards. That was a funny debate.
streetsahead123
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Btw while Pence was talking about how Clinton was running an insult-driven campaign, Trump was retweeting insults of Kaine
Pence is Starscream and Trump is Megatron. It's that simple.
EatinOlives
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The rest of the news from now until Sunday will be dissecting the content, though. Kaine did good in constantly bringing up shit that Pence would deny and lie. Yes he sounded like a broken record but it's gonna give fact-checkers a field day for the rest of the week.
Getting Pence to say "look, Trump is not a polished politician" is essentially him admitting defeat. It's the weakest possibly thing you can say when defending a politician.
Well, he convinced me.
Pence basically spent his career being a religious zealot, he'd get torn apart if he was top of the ticket.
Yeah, Nate Silver's tweet was immediately obvious to me.
First of many I bet
Ninja Scooter
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They care more than you think. If they didn't care about facts they'd be on th Trump train already. For the demos that Trump still has to win (women, minorities, college educated young whites) the substance absolutely matters.
Yyyyuuuuuup.
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