The hate comes from the fact that Nintendo has achieved every gaming milestone that exists, be it sales, critical acclaim, or awards. And despite this, Nintendo is irrelevant to where gaming is going. Yet the company just won't lie down and die, like Sega did. Therefore, people love to throw darts at them.
Washington Post calls GameCube "obsolete", recommends PS2/Xbox for Holiday gifts...
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JoshuaJSlone
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Find a word that succinctly states "not likely to greatly improve place in market", and I'll agree. But obsolete is not that word.Amir0x said:
Do The Mario
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drohne said:
This post should have its own thread, I am intrigued by the replies.
I really want olimario to answer this question
EDIT:Clicked the wrong post
Donkeypuncher
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Jr. said:
I find it hilarious that you would actually believe Nintendo for saying that. They said the same thing with the DS/PSP and then Reggie took swipes at the PSP. Competitive against their own numbers? As in the NES, SNES, and N64 before the GCN? How are their numbers competing with those?
Warm Machine
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Right now I'd only recommend the Cube for someone if they have kids, are a girl, or allready have both the other systems.
I owned a GC since launch and only since september had I had an Xbox, and only until a few days ago did I get a PS2. Being a GC gamer is a very lonely experience and a frustrating one.
I owned a GC since launch and only since september had I had an Xbox, and only until a few days ago did I get a PS2. Being a GC gamer is a very lonely experience and a frustrating one.
Jr. said:
:lol :lol
Man, you sure are stupid.
JoshuaJStone said:
1. No longer in use; gone into disuse (sales reflect that compared to Xbox and PS2, the Gamecube is simply the most 'disused' system currently on the market); disused; neglected (in terms of developer support. In terms of sales. It is "neglected"); as, an obsolete word; an obsolete statute
k. But we're playing at semantics now. In competitive terms, the Gamecube is obsolete. It is no longer a competitor this generation.
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Barnimal said:
seriously. there have been doom articles since a year after the GCs release.. back when nintendo was actually in second place.. and selling pretty closely to the xbox in the US. with the insane amount of negative press from the very beginning.. who in their right mind didnt think it was bound to happen?
drohne: If the merits of libraries is the reason why the PS2 and Xbox are better than the Gamecube, then I suppose the Xbox and PS2 could lose Halo 2 and GTASA, respectively, and still this article's tone would be the same?
Gamers will want a system with 5-million sellers. Nothing less will do.
Gamers will want a system with 5-million sellers. Nothing less will do.
Ah, who cares about the mass-market?! Nintendo has it own market nowadays. Nobody owns a Gamecube because of the third party releases on it. No, they buy them for Nintendo's games. As long as the big N keep their quality on a high level, the fans will remain and so will Nintendo. Let Microsoft and PlayStation 2 fight their ass off for the mass and pray for the support of the -so-called-gamedeveloper- EA, and let Nintendo fans just enjoy their games. Cause isn't that what's it all about?
Do The Mario
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Unison said:
Pet rocks are fun!
ArcadeStickMonk
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I sold a dude on the Dreamcast in '02. Even though he came over and sampled the best of the PS2, Xbox, and GC at that time he fell in love with Shenmue. I'll have to note that price was a huge factor in his decision, and that I don't know how happy he was in the long run.drohne said:
On a lighter note, I believe he overlooked the memory card at first and spent a couple days replaying Shenmue's opening sections.
speevy, your assertions are getting so obscure that i don't know how to address them. gta and halo have tremendous value as games, but outside of people who work in the industry and lunatics who post on message boards, i don't think anyone is particularly conscious of their sales.
Do The Mario
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MakMan said:
Um yes screw the third parties great idea
Without the help of Capcom, Namco, Factor 5 and others Nintendo would be in struggle town.
Unison said:
You see, there are three consoles this generation.
The race for positions via sales numbers and developer support is now over.
The Gamecube has lost! It is competitively obsolete, and it'll never gain the momentum the Xbox has, or the sales numbers the PS2 has! It's as simple as that!
In terms of making a profit, that's another story entirely. I acknowledged in my first post in this thread that the Gamecube IS making Nintendo a profit, so we shouldn't even care.
But if it is making a profit, it is competing in the marketplace.... That's pretty much undeniable. People are spending videogame dollars that they would be spending on Xbox or PS2 on it. It's a factor.
By your standards the Xbox is competitively obselete, because there is no freaking way it is going to overtake the PS2 for the #1 slot.
By your standards the Xbox is competitively obselete, because there is no freaking way it is going to overtake the PS2 for the #1 slot.
crumbs
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Why do people "hate" Nintendo fanboys? Probably because they sound just like PR, more so than other fanboys. They sound like they get talking points that they must hit on in every thread. The fact that they couldn't stop talking about Reggie, a marketing hack, illustrates this problem.
MakMan said:
Because Nintendo has found a place in the marketplace where it can operate at a profit.
Nintendo is not #1. They aren't even trying to be #1 at this point. They are trying to make a profit selling videogames. They are succeeding.
This isn't about who's #1. Only in the videogame world do you have to be #1 to be "competitive".
There's no denying that the GC, at this point, is no longer competitive on a serious level with the PS2 and the Xbox in the U.S. as far as sales -- and, to a certain extent, the sheer number of upcoming and released software -- go. That much is true.
But the implication the writer makes is that not only is the GC not competitive in these fields, it is not worth getting as a videogame machine. That is completely ignorant, and I think that's what most people in this thread are having trouble with.
If you cannot see the value in any of the three current consoles -- especially with how cheap hardware and software is this late in the game -- you're a closed-minded buffoon. Period. The author's recommendation should have recognized this fact, stating that the GC, although clearly not as supported as its competitors, does have some gems in its library, and is certainly worth a look, especially with its low price point.
But the implication the writer makes is that not only is the GC not competitive in these fields, it is not worth getting as a videogame machine. That is completely ignorant, and I think that's what most people in this thread are having trouble with.
If you cannot see the value in any of the three current consoles -- especially with how cheap hardware and software is this late in the game -- you're a closed-minded buffoon. Period. The author's recommendation should have recognized this fact, stating that the GC, although clearly not as supported as its competitors, does have some gems in its library, and is certainly worth a look, especially with its low price point.