Why isn't Nintendo making MORE games like Splatoon?

ecosse_011172

Junior Member
I'm very excited about the potential of Garage and Nintendo's future game development.
The likes of Splatoon, Pikmin 3, SM3DW, MK8, Kirby and by the looks of it, Xenoblade and Yoshi make me a very happy camper indeed.
 

Hahs

Member
What makes you think they aren't? I wouldn't be surprised if they have a few projects on par cooking away - launch titles for NX.
 

Kai Dracon

Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
I seem to have read in the past, that Nintendo's extreme conservatism is behind lack of "new IP"; not just because they wish to save new IP for new gameplay ideas, but they're afraid of creating a great set of characters only to have them associated with a new franchise that fails to get traction. Thus robbing themselves of valuable characters that could have been used elsewhere.

But given that Splatoon is the first result of their initiative to have younger developers prototype new games, its success may indicate to Nintendo they need to loosen up. Based on what I can see, a great deal of the praise for Splatoon isn't just for its gameplay, but its characters and theme. The public is vocally appreciating Nintendo putting real effort into a new game universe.

I have always felt the real reason why we need new IP from Nintendo isn't because their current stable is worn out, but because Nintendo is very good at making characters and worlds when they commit. (Part of this does come from their fusion of appearance and play mechanics - it tends to make new Nintendo characters unique.)
 

levyjl1988

Banned
This game feels like a return to form. It has charm and wit. That music and characters. It feels like a mix between The Unfinished Swan and a third person shooter, it works. The Inklings have their own language similar to Legend of Zelda where they speak in babble also similar to Super Mario, this helps avoid any voice acting when the game crosses over to another region and is substituted with just text.

I hope to see more games like Splatoon or at leadt take what is familiar and change it up.
 

Ansatz

Member
Eh Splatoon is the answer to the popularity of the online multiplayer shooter genre. Nintendo needed a shooter now that 3rd parties abandoned them so naturally they made one. I predicted some time before the announcement that we'd get "Mario Paintball" based on this reasoning.

"More games like Splatoon" would then be stuff that is an answer to popular games. But you have to think Nintendo difference, not straight copy/paste of the established formulas. So exactly like Splatoon, there has to be a unique twist that makes the gameplay more accessible.
 
Answer is simple Nintendo mostly never take risks (when they do it will be mostly budget/Indie level games but not in the AAA scope which is rare from them but they still charge price of AAA game or close to in many games), prefer to milk more and they do mostly budget games compared to AAA games made by other publishers. They were always conservative as they look to spend less but want large profits both in software (by using gamers weakness in their IP's by charging higher prices by not dropping price for long time for old games) and hardware (weaker hardware). Even splatoon would not have costed very much for them and also there is lack of content, features for a $60 game standards which they are still patching them. Splatoon is good fun game but i wont agree its a $60 game if we look at the content and efforts needed to develop this game. Also hate their Amibo DLC (could have provided option to get the locked content without buying Amibo for those who dont want Amibo instead of forcing) which made everyone to spend more than $60 if they want to play more content which are locked inside amibo which is pretty bad than season pass for me.
 

Snakeyes

Member
They definitely need more new IPs like Splatoon. I've had people tell me that Splatoon doesn't feel like a "Nintendo game"... because it feels fresh and has a bit of an edge compared to their usual offerings.
 

AgeEighty

Member
By that I mean, from everything they've shown so far, this game seems to encapsulate everything that makes Nintendo great --

1) Cool new gameplay
2) Colorful, fun graphical style
3) Charming as hell
4) Introduction of new 'characters'
5) A new IP that's also a system exclusive!

Innovate and create. Isn't that what Nintendo always used to do? Just like they're doing here with Splatoon.

So why is it such a rarity then that we get a game like this from them? Why not more games like this if they are still so capable of doing it? More new IPs? More new characters? More experimentation?

It seems to be going over well so far, right? People seem to be excited from what I can tell.

So can we expect more of this Nintendo...please...?

The bolded language tells me you haven't bought Splatoon.

Maybe start by doing that and doing your part to send the message that these kinds of titles will pay off for them to make. If you don't buy the game you so desperately want them to make, then you've answered your own question.

EDIT: Didn't notice the post was from before release... damn bumped threads.

Point still stands though. Has the OP bought the game? I'm curious to know.
 

Ansatz

Member
The bolded language tells me you haven't bought Splatoon.

Maybe start by doing that and doing your part to send the message that these kinds of titles will pay off for them to make. If you don't buy the game you so desperately want them to make, then you've answered your own question.

You are quoting a 2014 post :p
 

Tuck

Member
The bolded language tells me you haven't bought Splatoon.

Maybe start by doing that and doing your part to send the message that these kinds of titles will pay off for them to make. If you don't buy the game you so desperately want them to make, then you've answered your own question.
Op was posted half a year ago.
 

Aroll

Member
Splatoon was stated to be one of 3 prototype games coming from that team. So there are at least two others - assuming they can make them function well enough to be presentable at some point.

That being said, as with any "why is x company not making more new IP games" - it's risky, but can be done and success breeds more willingness to do it again. Splatoon, if the sales back up the internet's love of it (and yes, the internet loves it), is going to encourage Nintendo to take more risks with new IP. I mean, we're focusing on Splatoon, but we can't ignore they also took a risk with Code Name S.T.E.A.M. which flopped (sadly, it's actually not that bad of a game). Nintendo seems to be getting a more "back to roots" approach starting up with the young team doing their thing. They seemed to remember that at one point, Nintendo's very best were just a young team trying out new ideas that became Zelda, Mario, etc.

Keep the current franchises going strong, bring in new fresh IP from younger developers with new ideas, and Nintendo has a recipe for success long haul again. Really hoping Splatoon sold well in Europe and NA.

I also love how they approached Splatoon. It was a low budget game just put out there - no big marketing budget initially - just to see how media would react last E3. Media went crazy for it because it was just so much fun. That buzz, coincided with some fans expressing it, ultimately lead to Nintendo's willingness to give the game a big marketing budget, at least in NA. It's almost as if... they let the game earn that extra budget for marketing instead of just giving it to the game and watching it flop. Conversely, reaction to S.T.E.A.M. was tepid, and thus it didn't get the marketing backing.
 
I'm going to be a little disappointed if Nintendo doesn't present another new IP for Wii U at E3 this year. Splatoon is the most fun I've had with any game in a very long time.
 
It's pretty simple - money. None of us know how much Splatoon cost to make, but it's easy to see that Splatoon's marketing budget is huge and one of the most expensive campaigns in quite some time.
 

Exile20

Member
It's pretty simple - money. None of us know how much Splatoon cost to make, but it's easy to see that Splatoon's marketing budget is huge and one of the most expensive campaigns in quite some time.

Ye I think it is more than MK8 although that game came with a free game but well done Nintendo.
 

TI82

Banned
You'd be surprised that many people outside of GAF liked the game, if Kamiya's tweets are anything to go by.
Unless 80% of those "I loved the game" tweets were from GAF members.

I think the word is confirmation bias. Most people aren't going to even find out or know who Kamiya is if they didn't like the game.
 

mclem

Member
It's pretty simple - money. None of us know how much Splatoon cost to make, but it's easy to see that Splatoon's marketing budget is huge and one of the most expensive campaigns in quite some time.

Do you mean one of Nintendo's most expensive campaigns? I see Splatoon's marketing push as big for Nintendo, but I don't really see it in the same sort of scale as the Assassin's Creeds, Battlefields and Call of Dutys of the world.
 
In a perfect world, Nintendo would still have GoldenEye and Perfect Dark to round out the mature shooter camp, and it could co-exist wonderfully with Splatoon.

*sigh*
 

Ansatz

Member
I'm going to be a little disappointed if Nintendo doesn't present another new IP for Wii U at E3 this year. Splatoon is the most fun I've had with any game in a very long time.

New IP has nothing to do with the fun factor of Splatoon. Sure it feels fresh but if this was reskinned with the Mario universe it'd be just as fun.
 
To be fair, your question is essentially: why don't they make more great, original, games?

The main issue with that is it's very, very hard to do.
 
Do you mean one of Nintendo's most expensive campaigns? I see Splatoon's marketing push as big for Nintendo, but I don't really see it in the same sort of scale as the Assassin's Creeds, Battlefields and Call of Dutys of the world.

I think the marketing budget is probably just as big as those other games you mentioned. There's a TV commercial blitz (primarily on children & teen channels), there's very heavy retail store placement, they've even been doing live events. Also, unlike the other games you mentioned, they're pushing it very heavily worldwide. Make no mistake, when Nintendo wants to, they can spend money on advertising like nobody else in the industry. The campaign for the Wii was probably the most expensive video game advertising campaign of all time. Nintendo wants Splatoon to become a major longtime IP and is doing all they can to make it such.
 

OryoN

Member
When Nintendo is not making/publishing new IPs, then they are constantly introducing new gameplay with familiar characters. They've been doing this since first entering the business.

Nintendo talks the talk and walks the walk. It's gamers who need to put their money where their mouths are.

These days, a lot of things need to fall into place for a game like Splatoon to come to fruition. Games that shakes up not only and entire genre, but stale business practices also, are extremely rare. An anomaly, almost. I'm very grateful that the 'stars were aligned' this time!
 

Mik317

Member
When Nintendo is not making/publishing new IPs, then they are constantly introducing new gameplay with familiar characters. They've been doing this since first entering the business.

Nintendo talks the talk and walks the walk. It's gamers who need to put their money where their mouths are.

These days, a lot of things need to fall into place for a game like Splatoon to come to fruition. Games that shakes up not only and entire genre, but stale business practices also, are extremely rare. An anomaly, almost. I'm very grateful that the 'stars were aligned' this time!

Because I have some money to spare, this was the main reason I bought Splatoon. It turned out a great idea because the game is awesome but I mainly wanted to support Nintendo actually pushing it.
 
New IP has nothing to do with the fun factor of Splatoon. Sure it feels fresh but if this was reskinned with the Mario universe it'd be just as fun.

It would be just as fun but the world EAD created is part of what makes Splatoon so special, so I'm very happy to see new characters from them and I hope they're creating more.
 
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