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WipEout Omega Collection |OT| Out of CoLD SToRAGE
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Psychoward
Banned
...how the hell was I expected to know that
I wish they'd post the full stats then so I know if the original ships are worth trying over the fury variants
My man.....
Poimandres
Member
I need to play this more. I used to be killer at Wipeout 3 and especially Wipeout 2097, but damn I'm rusty these days.
Also in the lead up to this I had been playing some F-Zero GX... but hot damn there's no substitute for Wipeout, truly. I just love the way Wipeout looks and feels. Fingers crossed this sells and we can get some Wipeout 2097 and Wipeout 3 DLC.
Also in the lead up to this I had been playing some F-Zero GX... but hot damn there's no substitute for Wipeout, truly. I just love the way Wipeout looks and feels. Fingers crossed this sells and we can get some Wipeout 2097 and Wipeout 3 DLC.
Rellik
Member
The great thing about WipeOut is you can just pop in and out at anytime.
The Antitype
Banned
Damnit, I had no idea there was a steelbook edition of this!
Can you still get it anywhere?
Can you still get it anywhere?
OfTheOverflow
Member
If anyone's interested, the WipEout merch is up on the UK PlayStation Gear website! No international shipping unfortunately.
Think I might need to have that hoodie though... Would like to see some more imaginative designs in the future.
Time to put your money where your mouth is Bumhead
Think I might need to have that hoodie though... Would like to see some more imaginative designs in the future.
Time to put your money where your mouth is Bumhead
Not up on the US yet.
Psychoward
Banned
That Feisar shirt is a great alternative to a GAF shirt
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
Good question. I went with Quirex agility just in case stats did matter (good mix of handling and health)
One of the prototype ships has 100 handling. That would be really really really helpful for zone.
Are you in Melbourne? Maybe we could split postage, I'm wagering it'll be pricey from the EU store.
Also, why no Wipeout team bumper stickers? I'd buy a Let's Be Friends one in a heartbeat.
Boogalogist
Member
This is an excellent video. It should be in the main post of the OT for newcomers.
OfTheOverflow
Member
Nah, Wollongong unfortunately. I don't think any Gear store offers international shipping, so we'd have to use something like Shipito or that AusPost service
Also y'know what's shit? Australia actually had a Gear store early last year, but we just don't anymore for no apparent reason.
1.21Gigawatts
Banned
I just started to try to beat Zico in 2048.
I got close with 32:85 (you have to beat 32:50), but my left thumb hurts from pressing left right on the d-pad to barrel roll.
How do some people do that so effortlessly?
Edit: Down to 32:62 now. But I miss at least one or two barrel rolls every time because my input is just too sloppy and the ship doesn't do them.
I wish I could just map the barrel roll to a single button.
Edit 2: 32: 58 now. fml
I got close with 32:85 (you have to beat 32:50), but my left thumb hurts from pressing left right on the d-pad to barrel roll.
How do some people do that so effortlessly?
Edit: Down to 32:62 now. But I miss at least one or two barrel rolls every time because my input is just too sloppy and the ship doesn't do them.
I wish I could just map the barrel roll to a single button.
Edit 2: 32: 58 now. fml
OfTheOverflow
Member
Also if anyone's curious how FEISAR_2097 does it, they have a YouTube channel with a bunch of recorded races etc. which could be helpful to observe some of his techniques.
Poimandres
Member
I'm in Brissy, but if you find a way to actually get that stuff shipped to Australia let me know. I would wear that hoody everyday with pride.
Boogalogist
Member
Wow...his Beat Zico technique is insane. 28.88s!
OfTheOverflow
Member
Might try and figure out a shipping solution after exams, will keep you two in the loop! If anyone else is interested, PM me.
olitheoblong
Neo Member
I'm trying to beat zico times, I can't even get barrel rolls right, does pitch make a massive difference? And should I be using dpad?
1.21Gigawatts
Banned
Done. Finally. 106th lap.
I even fucking crashed into the walls at the last short cut but it was still fast enough.
I feel accomplished
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQ7oMr1zSIU
Its essentially the same as feisar_2097's video, but here you can see the very first barrel roll at the finish line better.
nhlducks35
Member
Yes, they make a difference
You should be using the AG Systems ship with 50 speed and 100 handling or the Qirex Agility if you need more health (due to barriers)
ExitPlanetDust
Member
While the changes may have been discussed by SL and the wipEout Zone community upon its release (SL had a great relationship with the site back then), you just kind of figure this stuff out 100 or so hours in and after a few discussions with friends or the community. Things aren't outright explained a lot of the time. I think that HD was really the first game in the series that made serious attempt at welcoming newcomers with things like pilot assist. WipEout is a series that you can spend a lot of time on and still only scratch the surface. It is similar to a fighting game series in that regard.
Fortunately the community has always been warm and welcoming. They love the series and more than anything want to see it thrive. The more people playing, the merrier.
My apologies if I'm making assumptions about your history with wipEout.
Yeah, I agree. I'm surprised no one had posted it yet actually. It helped me ease into HD/Fury when I finally bought a PS3. HellfireWZ is a treasure.
I'll PM the link to Vally.
chrominance
Member
Okay, is it just me or is the 2048 campaign way harder than it was in the original Vita version? I'm completely stumped by 2049 event 5, the single-lap run on Queens Mall. It demands a 42.5 second lap time; I can't get lower than 45. I think I managed to place 5th once. It's clear that I need a faster ship but there simply isn't one faster than the Feisar Speed ship. I've tried using the shortcuts I know about (I think I count four?) but no dice. Three places to barrel roll but the last jump is pointless as it's just before the finish line. What am I doing wrong, and was I just way better at this five years ago? I seriously don't remember having this much trouble.
EDIT: TIED for fourth place, still don't get the pass. Christ, this event is a brick wall.
EDIT: TIED for fourth place, still don't get the pass. Christ, this event is a brick wall.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
Feisar speed is good choice, its possible with that.
You can't make any mistakes. First take the right shortcut at the beginning of the lap and barrel roll. Then immediately go left at the fork. Then go left at the next fork and barrel roll off the jump. Then go into the shortcut left then the next shortcut to the left.
Then take a right at the fork* (make sure you hit both boost pads sequentially before the fork). This right path has a hard left turn followed by a right curve, so airbrake hard for the first turn but lightly for the right curve. Make sure you don't graze the wall through the narrow passage overlooking the statue of liberty.
Then finally for the jump to the finish I always pitch down. It doesn't make much of a difference but I figure it lessens the jump height a little.
*There is technically a fourth barrel roll possible if you take the left fork but I think its easier to just do the right path. Unless you hit the barrel roll which is difficult, the right path is faster.
Edit: you mean the one at B speed right? Yea i just did it and feisar speed works fine for it. You can already be in 1st place before you get to the last fork lol
chrominance
Member
Feisar speed is good choice, its possible with that.
You can't make any mistakes. First take the right shortcut at the beginning of the lap and barrel roll. Then immediately go left at the fork. Then go left at the next fork and barrel roll off the jump. Then go into the shortcut left then the next shortcut to the left.
Then take a right at the fork* (make sure you hit both boost pads sequentially before the fork). This right path has a hard left turn followed by a right curve, so airbrake hard for the first turn but lightly for the right curve. Make sure you don't graze the wall through the narrow passage overlooking the statue of liberty.
Then finally for the jump to the finish I always pitch down. It doesn't make much of a difference but I figure it lessens the jump height a little.
*There is technically a fourth barrel roll possible if you take the left fork but I think its easier to just do the right path. Unless you hit the barrel roll which is difficult, the right path is faster.
Edit: you mean the one at B speed right? Yea i just did it and feisar speed works fine for it. You can already be in 1st place before you get to the last fork lol
Hmm, okay. I think I've been doing most of that (the two shortcuts off that big sweeping curve didn't seem to help me that much), but clearly I'm not executing the way I should be. I guess it's practice time.
EDIT: First attempt this session: 1st place, BEFORE THE LAST FORK like you said. Geeez. If only all my failures turned around this quickly!
Psychoward
Banned
ScaryShark
Banned
Wipeout has always been tough.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
Chronology
Member
Ok, basically Zone Battle is an offshoot of the Zone mode, where you fly your craft around a track while continuously getting faster, until you eventually crash. Zone Battle is similar in that you're constantly getting faster, but you also are able to essentially store up boost by running over speed pads. Running over speed pads fills your bar at the bottom of the screen, which acts sort of like a weapon pickup: if you hit square, you'll use the boost and jump forward that many "zones," meaning you'll speed up. If you hit circle, you'll absorb the boost, healing your ship and giving you a momentary shield.
That aspect is important because when you do hit square and use your boost, you'll also leave behind a barrier that you or other racers can hit; hitting the barrier deals damage. The objective is to get to the required zone (i.e., get fast enough) before anyone else.
Psychoward
Banned
No don't feel bad at all, this is my first game. I just wish they would have explained that or put in game stats or anything because most people will look at the ships and see the fury ones as objectively better in every category, hell I'm still using them because I don't know the perks of the original ones.
Chronology
Member
Just to jump in real fast: in my opinion, it's honestly more of a feel thing than anything; if you're more comfortable in the Fury ships, then those are the best ships for you. If you're more comfortable in the HD ships, you'll fly better with those. It's more about getting a feel for what works for you personally than a strict hierarchy, if that makes sense!
DarkConfidant
Member
So I haven't played WipEout since the Vita launch.
Damn do I suck now. I used to not touch the walls in Zone until I at least hit the high 20 zones (super rapier?).
Took me forever to remember how to do a barrel roll too.
Glad it's back though. PlayStation just isn't PlayStation without frictionless minimalist European racing games.
RIP Studio Liverpool :'( they were fools to have closed you down
Damn do I suck now. I used to not touch the walls in Zone until I at least hit the high 20 zones (super rapier?).
Took me forever to remember how to do a barrel roll too.
Glad it's back though. PlayStation just isn't PlayStation without frictionless minimalist European racing games.
RIP Studio Liverpool :'( they were fools to have closed you down
I want MotorStorm Omega Collection now. Some sort of way to play Artic Edge
Thanks.
Shin-Ra
Junior Member
Ok so reporting back on the difficulty after playing a bit of HD on Elite: ok it seems easier. So weird because I remember it being so fucking hard, now it's a piece of cake, I guess I got really better over the years.
Oh and if anyone is interested, I went to Zone 157 on Sol (really surprised when I saw that I finished 2nd on the global leaderboard lol)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nC-_voCgYTU
edit: lol just noticed I got copyrighted by UMG :/
Oh and if anyone is interested, I went to Zone 157 on Sol (really surprised when I saw that I finished 2nd on the global leaderboard lol)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nC-_voCgYTU
edit: lol just noticed I got copyrighted by UMG :/
User123456
Member
FINALLY got the game in the mail and gave it a whirl. I can't believe WipEout is finally on ps4. We made it boys!
Native 4k60 downsampled to 1080 looks ridiculously good, and honestly the game itself is a looker as well. The remastering job was more comprehensive than I thought, with vastly improved assets all around.
But of course the star of the show is the gameplay. Of course y'all already know HD and Fury are amazing but just how much better 2048 becomes with a full sized controller and 60fps is something you need to experience in order to believe it. Having full size analog sticks as well as analog triggers for airbrake control is a dream come true and it works so, so well.
Native 4k60 downsampled to 1080 looks ridiculously good, and honestly the game itself is a looker as well. The remastering job was more comprehensive than I thought, with vastly improved assets all around.
But of course the star of the show is the gameplay. Of course y'all already know HD and Fury are amazing but just how much better 2048 becomes with a full sized controller and 60fps is something you need to experience in order to believe it. Having full size analog sticks as well as analog triggers for airbrake control is a dream come true and it works so, so well.
ScaryShark
Banned
I think HD is a lot more friendly than 2048 for a new player.