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Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty Bombed With Negative Reviews On Steam
THE DUCK
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Relax keyboard warrior, I was 80% joking and only 20% serious.
Maiden Voyage
Gold™ Member
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
-Japanese developer releases a port on PC
-PC gamers find out that it was optimized for a Japanese console
-PC gamers find out that the controls were optimized for a Japanese console
PC gamers every single time:
Didn't you notice that the developers are Japanese?
Maiden Voyage
Gold™ Member
They don’t use keyboard and mouse for development in Japan? What do they use? Chopsticks?Didn't you notice that the developers are Japanese?
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They would probably lose their shit if a FPS launched without controller support or aim assist tho
March Climber
Member
Then keep paying 69.99, getting upset again and again at half baked PC ports, and keep leaving negative steam reviews. Continue the cycle.
Maiden Voyage
Gold™ Member
I only play visual novels so I’ll be ok. No waifu, no buy.
Then keep paying 69.99, getting upset again and again at half baked PC ports, and keep leaving negative steam reviews. Continue the cycle.
decisions
Member
I fixed the port for myself. This game is glorious.
- Frame cap is broken: lock game at (in-game frame cap) -1 FPS
2. Ambient Occlusion is broken (causes white flashes): Disable it
3. Volumetric fog/lighting is ridiculously expensive: set both to low
4. Graphics "mode" setting does unknown things: set to prioritize FPS
5. Nvidia Profile Inspector general fixes: rBAR enabled, Power management mode: prefer maximum performance
Also here are my settings for HDR on the Alienware QD-OLED. I find the HDR implementation in this game to look amazing, for instance the dark reds in the caves on stage 3 simply look sublime.
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CliffyB's Cock Holster
Its not an "edgy" comment or much of an insult. Its a basic observation of fact.
If controller support is present and functional on a platform that supports controllers, what's the excuse for not using that input method apart from pure stubbornness?
You can't argue that the game wasn't primarily designed to be played with a controller or that KB/M basically adds anything of gameplay value due to the nature of the action.
Sorry, but it seems like making a rock for your own back to me. Which is why I have zero sympathy for the complaint.
01011001
Banned
I don't get that either. if a game is designed for controller, and you know that going into it, I have no idea wtf people are expecting to happen when you want to use the input method it's not designed for.
like if someone boght Guitar Hero and then goes online and says how shit the game is when played on a normal controller (which you can actually do btw lol)
Maiden Voyage
Gold™ Member
Imagine putting out this game out on console and expecting the players to use Guitar Hero peripherals to play it.
01011001
Banned
your comment makes no sense.
it's simple,
the game is designed for controller, so you are expected to play it with that. as an alternative they made it playable with mouse and keyboard but that is not what it's designed for.
similarly,
guitar hero is designed for a guitar controller, so you are expected to play it with that. as an alternative they made it playable with a normal controller but that is not what it's designed for.
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CliffyB's Cock Holster
Just stop! A pad-type controller is not an exotic peripheral!
It's bog-standard input device that any PC owner is likely to own already, unless they are some sort of weirdo purist!
Shubh_C63
Member
Isn't it possible not every PC person have a controller, while the game is being released on PC that natively deals with Keyboard and Mouse.
And I see no tag in Steam saying ONLY Controller compatible which than would have been purchasers oversight of not checking the product out.
You can't blame people for being angry over PC game not working with PC input methods. Its not like they bought a VR title on steam and complained its not working with KBM.
Maiden Voyage
Gold™ Member
Console warriors in PC threads sure is something.
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CliffyB's Cock Holster
This thread is about negative reviews on Steam (Which supports console pad inputs down to the button graphics).
Its NOT about console vs PC.
Sentenza
Member
I'm honestly of two minds about the topic.
On one hand I easily agree that people should have any right to complain or rate a game negatively if it presents problems.
On the other hand, when the complaint is "this console centric action game is clearly designed for controllers and plays poorly with mouse and keyboard setup" I admittedly filter out that as the complain of a purist bordering into retardation.
I don't expect Civilization or Baldur's Gate to play nice on a controller and in the same way I don't expect FIFA or Monster hunter to be at their best with a keyboard.
On one hand I easily agree that people should have any right to complain or rate a game negatively if it presents problems.
On the other hand, when the complaint is "this console centric action game is clearly designed for controllers and plays poorly with mouse and keyboard setup" I admittedly filter out that as the complain of a purist bordering into retardation.
I don't expect Civilization or Baldur's Gate to play nice on a controller and in the same way I don't expect FIFA or Monster hunter to be at their best with a keyboard.
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01011001
Banned
the game is playable with mouse and keyboard... and it's not even that bad, the only thing they need to patch is the weird "deadzone" the mouse input has.
the rest is perfectly serviceable, you can rebind everything and the button overlay also works. it's literally just weird mouse movement issues.
Maiden Voyage
Gold™ Member
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01011001
Banned
great response, really insightful.
what I said is 100% accurate, the only issue the game currently has on mouse and keyboard is that the mouse has a weird deadzone, a movement threshold at which it will not move the camera.
if they fix that, the mouse and keyboard controls would be 100% fine... I would even say pretty much perfect.
I had worse camera controls on console with console games
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Maiden Voyage
Gold™ Member
I don’t understand why you’re even arguing with me.
BossLackey
Gold Member
I love PC gaming, but there are just SO many disappointing PC ports, especially lately for some reason.
I honestly don't really understand why it's so prevalent.
01011001
Banned
don't answer with braindead bullshit and I won't reply back.
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Arsic
Loves his juicy stink trail scent
I’m confused about these performance issues folks are getting.
I’m max everything in 4k for a 3080 on gamepass pc version. Are the steam and gamepass ports different ?
I recall a few games in the past had better versions on gamepass pc if I recall like the Nier Automata versions .
Is the same going on here or ?
I’m max everything in 4k for a 3080 on gamepass pc version. Are the steam and gamepass ports different ?
I recall a few games in the past had better versions on gamepass pc if I recall like the Nier Automata versions .
Is the same going on here or ?
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CliffyB's Cock Holster
What interests me is whether or not the Steam and Windows Store versions of this game actually perform differently.
Because that's a very odd thing.
T4keD0wN
Member
This thread is about negative reviews on steam, most of which complain about keyboard and mouse support, why are people here going off-topic and talking about controllers?
You realize some people play on pc just because they are unable to use controllers or because they simply dont want to use it?
Maiden Voyage
Gold™ Member
Because they were on the dev team and have insider info.
Captain Toad
Banned
Oh, my fault. I thought we were discussing Metacritic, not Steam for some reason.
_Ex_
Member
Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice...
theclaw135
Banned
Developers should either get KB+M right, or drop support.
If a game REALLY isn't designed for keyboards, duct taping the option just makes the game look shoddier
01011001
Banned
I mean, again, the only issue is that the mouse input is unresponsive, and they are apparently fixing that, everything else works absolutely like you'd expect a mouse and keyboard option to work, you can even turn off that the camera automatically follows locked-on enemies if you want full free camera control at all time
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March Climber
Member
Console warriors defend controller usage in PC threads. PC warriors come into Sony threads asking when the PC port is coming. Sony warriors gloat about having great exclusives that Xbox/PC can't have for a year or longer(sometimes never). Xbox warriors gloat about Gamepass to Sony warriors whenever a multiplat game comes out and ends up on their service day one. Everyone makes fun of Nintendo Switch games costing full price for years. And Nintendo warriors make fun of everyone by showing their console exclusives' metacritic score.
Everything is balanced.
StereoVsn
Gold Member
And what they don't deserve is full price at release. Basically now days it's worth waiting 6 months (for SP games) or even longer for things to get patched and for price to drop.
Situation is still ridiculous though.
StereoVsn
Gold Member
Because publishers can't be arsed to pay devs to fix it. That takes time and money, so why bother when you can throw shit out and maybe patch things later...or maybe not as we can still see with say Elden Ring.
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Buggy Loop
Member
Some peoples don't love controllers? I know a bunch. Some never liked moving camera with analog sticks and then pressing face buttons at the same time. Even some games sometimes abuse this too much i find and i use controllers a LOT. I know, oh my gosh, a different opinion than the hardcore gaming forum.
Mouse camera is way easier for them. PC is choice, its crazy to think peoples aren't picking the controller because of stubbornness. Know what control method is an obligation on PC? Keyboard and mouse, not controllers.
There's hundreds of games that started on consoles with controllers only that were ported to PC successfully. Any genre you can think of.
MiguelItUp
Member
As do I. What's wild is that we get some absolutely outstanding ports, but then we get completely polar opposite ones. It makes no sense, lol. You'd think it'd just get easier, but somehow it apparently isn't? Lol.
BlackTron
Member
If the kb/m issues were the only problem I would think it's silly, but it's not. The game has numerous issues on PC.
But the idea of kb/m not working well in a game like this, it may as well have bad racing wheel support, who cares.
Haint
Member
Sounds like theres some serious issues with the game. Koei Tecmo game with poor or no KB&M support is to be expected at this point.
Are Capcom and Sony the only japanese publishers left that release decent pc ports now that square got rid of their western stuff?
People retarded enough to play a third person melee combat action game with a fucking mouse and keyboard deserve to get shit support.
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BootsLoader
Banned
I hate it when devs are not bothered to optimize the game.
BlackTron
Member
I feel like this is an example of a subset of PC gamers knowing absolutely everything about graphics and resolution settings but nothing about actually playing the game correctly.
I think this group is much bigger than I ever wanted to believe.