Support NeoGAF

[THE DUCK]

Because it's not the way YOU play? Get off your high horse and understand the game should work flawlessly from a controls standpoint as a fundamental standard as that is the first point of interaction with any game. If I don't own a controller, it shouldn't add to the cost of admission to simply enjoy a game on PC. If millions of other games can get it right, there is absolutely no reason this game should get a pass. Lastly, if you don't understand what I'm saying, your opinion is absolute trash.

Lol, wake up angry did we? Have you seen how many upvotes that post received?
You don't own a controller? So wait, you can afford a pc and the game but can't buy a used $20 controller? And have zero game consoles in the house from the past 10 years that have controlers that easily hook up with a usb cable?

Just because YOU think it's ok to play the game that way doesn't mean it's ideal.
I'm not going to say your opinion is trash even if it's wrong. I'm not on a horse at all, I actually don't care how you play it, optimized or all weird, but take deep breath.......it's a game.

I wouldn't play this game with a keyboard and mouse any more than I would a driving game.

 

[Evil Calvin]

Given that it is the launch day, the devs would likely release patches to fix most of the performance issues in due time.

That shit should have been sorted out before release.

 

[rodrigolfp]

it's not tho. the game runs perfectly fine on any decent PC

Frame rate caps are not perfectly fine. Game deserves some hate.

 

[01011001]

Frame rate caps are not perfectly fine. Game deserves some hate.

120fps should be good enough. not as good as fully unlocked but come on...

 

[adamosmaki]

This is the case with every other PC game now, the developers don't seem to find the time/cost good enough to optimize their games. Leaning on patches.

It's incredibly annoying, and while I like the game, they deserve the bad feedback.

Developers are also leaning on dlss and fsr and dont spend time doing any optimization and the results are bad ports

 

[01011001]

Developers are also leaning on dlss and fsr and dont spend time doing any optimization and the results are bad ports

that literally never happened. not once.
also DLSS is usually the better option anyways, especially if the alternative is UE4 and its awful TAA

 

[rodrigolfp]

120fps should be good enough. not as good as fully unlocked but come on...

It caps to whatever refresh rate your screen have. It's like devs don't know you can still benefit from higher frame rates that your screen have.

 

[01011001]

It caps to whatever refresh rate your screen have. It's like devs don't know you can still benefit from higher frame rates that your screen have.

in the windows store version you have a choice between 30, 60, 120. my refresh is 144, so that's certainly not how it works on my end.

edit: besides that like I said in other posts before, their camera system isn't working properly at anything that isn't a locked 60fps or maybe a 100% locked 120fps (haven't tried locking to 120)
that's an issue on their console versions too. it's something with their camera that just doesn't like anything that's not 60 ticks a second

 

[BennyBlanco]

Just played an hour so off gamepass and it's smooth as fuck 4k/120. Night and day difference from the demo.

 

[ClosBSAS]

Game peaked at 75k and that's not a bad number, but today peaked at 70k and that took all day to reach that. Some refunds were given out for sure. Sucks. Final game runs pretty good, buttery smooth but it's koei Tecmo we talking about here so not surprised . Shit wasn't even gonna release on PC day one if it weren't for gamepass.

 

[BossLackey]

Just played an hour so off gamepass and it's smooth as fuck 4k/120. Night and day difference from the demo.

Just curious. What card do you have?

 

[BennyBlanco]

Just curious. What card do you have?

4090. The demo still ran like shit for me.

 

[BossLackey]

4090

I keep hearing that it's the 30 series that's giving people trouble. Super anecdotal, but strange.

 

[ResilientBanana]

Lol, wake up angry did we? Have you seen how many upvotes that post received?
You don't own a controller? So wait, you can afford a pc and the game but can't buy a used $20 controller? And have zero game consoles in the house from the past 10 years that have controlers that easily hook up with a usb cable?

Just because YOU think it's ok to play the game that way doesn't mean it's ideal.
I'm not going to say your opinion is trash even if it's wrong. I'm not on a horse at all, I actually don't care how you play it, optimized or all weird, but take deep breath.......it's a game.

I wouldn't play this game with a keyboard and mouse any more than I would a driving game.

Simply put, don't put out a game for a platform you can't fully support using its native control scheme.

 

[Warablo]

It caps to whatever refresh rate your screen have. It's like devs don't know you can still benefit from higher frame rates that your screen have.

Not exactly, I got a 144 hz but can only lock at 120.

I see a lot of feedback is the shitty controls for MnK which is a valid complaint, but at least the controller controls are okay.

 

[yamaci17]

I keep hearing that it's the 30 series that's giving people trouble. Super anecdotal, but strange.

nah i have a crap old 2700 paired with a vram gimped 3070
game runs locked 60 at 1440p for me at standard settings (volumetric set to low)

 

[Frostt]

Besides the stutters the game isnt that good anyways, i hoped for Elden Ring and got a worse kind of Nioh. At least i got It on GP for 1 euro

 

[rodrigolfp]

I keep hearing that it's the 30 series that's giving people trouble. Super anecdotal, but strange.

Nope. 3080 12GB here. Zero stutters, even in cutscenes where is very common to happen.

 

[mxbison]

People complain about ultra inflated media scores and then put any negative player rating off as 'review bombing'...

 

[01011001]

I keep hearing that it's the 30 series that's giving people trouble. Super anecdotal, but strange.

my 3060ti can lock to 60fps at pretty high settings at 1440p

 

[gamerEMdoc]

A lot of people like playing these games with mouse and keyboard. They should leave another screen in there that says this is best played with a controller.

Once I noticed that the playstation buttons were displayed despite having a xbox controller plugged in I noped out of there, deleted it and downloaded the PS5 version.

Theres a game setting where you select which controller you are playing with, a PS controller or Xbox controller.

 

[01011001]

Once I noticed that the playstation buttons were displayed despite having a xbox controller plugged in I noped out of there, deleted it and downloaded the PS5 version.

option menus are hard

 

[TintoConCasera]

So it's not that bad after all? Might check it on my 3070 later today.

EDIT: Tried it. Runs fine maxed out at 1440p, but some small stuttering is still noticeable, although it's nothing too distracting. Still will hold on this one until they fix it.

All the shader compilation stutter has to be the devs fault

Yes it is the dev's fault. Check out competently made games like Hi-Fi Rush, Atomic Heart or Like A Dragon: Ishin (after the patch), they use DX12 and run flawlesly.

 

[Thebonehead]

Let me preface this with I am a PC Gamer, but i am not a pcmasterrace snob.
Its always funny to me to see PC games launch because 99% of the time they launch like shit and it humbles those babies who always talk shit about consoles

You're not doing PC right then

 

[TintoConCasera]

Let me preface this with I am a PC Gamer, but i am not a pcmasterrace snob.
Its always funny to me to see PC games launch because 99% of the time they launch like shit and it humbles those babies who always talk shit about consoles

are those pcmaster snobs in the room with us right now?

I swear, the only ones mentioning that dumb thing about "master race" is the people that for some reason seem angry about people who play on PCs. Why, I'll never know.

 

[dorkimoe]

are those pcmaster snobs in the room with us right now?

I swear, the only ones mentioning that dumb thing about "master race" is the people that for some reason seem angry about people who play on PCs. Why, I'll never know.

Yes you're right caught me

 

[rodrigolfp]

Let me preface this with I am a PC Gamer, but i am not a pcmasterrace snob.
Its always funny to me to see PC games launch because 99% of the time they launch like shit and it humbles those babies who always talk shit about consoles

The difference is that devs almost always fixes the shits (that are 100% devs's fault), while on console some shits (that are not always devs's fault) are never fixed.

 

[Barakov]

Theres a game setting where you select which controller you are playing with, a PS controller or Xbox controller.

Still kinda weird how it defaulted to PS buttons. It's nice they put that it there.

option menus are hard

 

[Kataploom]

you can change your control overlay in the options



it does support it, it simply has an issue where the mouse doesn't respond correctly, which is getting patched



from my tests there are no performance issues, and I have a midrange PC running close to max settings

I've seen the game running on a 6700xt at 2K and around 45 fps, I don't if that was legit but I consider that unoptimized, specially for how it looks

 

[01011001]

I've seen the game running on a 6700xt at 2K and around 45 fps, I don't if that was legit but I consider that unoptimized, specially for how it looks

it's 60fps on console, so you gotta look at that for reference I feel.

and yes it doesn't look good in comparison to how it performs, but that's not really anything that's an issue with the PC port.

the game runs on my system similarly to how it runs on Series X, and that's how my PC usually perfoms.
my PC with a 3060ti is basically slightly worse than the consoles in pure rasterized games and better than them as soon as RT is used.

and as long as a PC version is more or less in line on my PC compared to Series X I see that as a decent PC port.