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thepotatoman
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I truly believe the primary reason the WWE put a bigger emphasis on smackdown is to protect Reigns from Cena. Trying to salvage relations with NBCUniversal was just a side benefit.
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WWE Raw drops to lowest TV rating in 18 years
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I truly believe the primary reason the WWE put a bigger emphasis on smackdown is to protect Reigns from Cena. Trying to salvage relations with NBCUniversal was just a side benefit.
ViewtifulJC
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Between twitter and youtube they will surely be rolling in money.
that too, but vince isn't retiring. he's gonna die on the job.
only one problem... that fucker's immortal.
I can see them selling to Disney before he dies.
People joke about Vince being immortal, but seriously his family has incredible genes. His grandmother lived more than 100 years and his mother is 96, according to wikipedia.
Also, they should have Roman Reigns segments and matches exclusively in the third hour. The Big Dog will light up those ratings like a spear to an indie darling.
Dirtyshubb
Member
One thing to consider is that I'm willing to bet his gran and mum didn't spend a lot of time doing coke and taking steroids for decades worth of body building.
Not to say he won't live long but it's safe to say he has that against him.
And his dad died at 69, his granddad at 72. So yeah, so much for immortality.
Nerdkiller
Membeur
If I was an executive over there, I'd be going...
Also, off topic, but what's with the Berlyn avatars? Did you all lose a bet, or do you genuinely like Alex Wright?
Tom Nook
Member
Steph will live to be 200 then.
Are breast implants biodegradable ?
If I was an executive over there, I'd be going...
Also, off topic, but what's with the Berlyn avatars? Did you all lose a bet, or do you genuinely like Alex Wright?
A bet was lost in a weird wrestling thread.
Did his family pump themselves with roids and eat steak daily though? Can't imagine that ragging lunatic has the best blood pressure either.
Nerdkiller
Membeur
Complete with ketchup, which according to GAF, is a big deal.
I don't see the problem with having ketchup.
Pop-O-Matic
Banned
It's Vince. I see him flat-out liquidating the company before he goes so he can take sports entertainment to the grave with him.
TemplaerDude
Member
Ketchup is a condiment for children and ketchup has absolutely no business ever being anywhere near any kind of steak, ever.
I guess Vince hasn't written off carbs. But yeah, this hurts Vince's man card for sure.
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Deleted member 47027
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Why not? What macro breakdown should he be using?
Simply Sami
Member
I don't think there will be major changes when Vince retires
NXT is on the network and doesn't have to cater for TV networks or sponsors. The fact is WWE won't be edgy even if Vince retires.
People wanting him to die is disgusting though. Stephanie will take over and she is way worse than Vince especially her on screen character. Atleast Vince put people over.
Stephanie was the one who is hiring all these Hollywood writers.
Once the NXT wrestlers come over, Stephanie will belittle every male and female wrestler from there just like she does to every superstar on the roster.
NXT is on the network and doesn't have to cater for TV networks or sponsors. The fact is WWE won't be edgy even if Vince retires.
People wanting him to die is disgusting though. Stephanie will take over and she is way worse than Vince especially her on screen character. Atleast Vince put people over.
Stephanie was the one who is hiring all these Hollywood writers.
Once the NXT wrestlers come over, Stephanie will belittle every male and female wrestler from there just like she does to every superstar on the roster.
OH BOY! 2.03. So very very close to under 2.0. Wow. #WWERaw
Wade Keller
2.03 RAW rating is a new low for the era. Lowest since 1.9 on March 3, 1997
Thread title is accurate again!
Wade Keller
2.03 RAW rating is a new low for the era. Lowest since 1.9 on March 3, 1997
Thread title is accurate again!
Dunn will be gone, that alone will be a huge change.
UberTag
Member
WrassleGAF thread was completely dead last night... so seems like quite a number of them.
Shame we know who's winning the ladder match now but I have high hopes that Cena and Styles will deliver something special on Sunday.
serenewarfare
Banned
Switching the main title will have little if any impact on the ratings. Their problems are way more fundamental than that. 3 hour Raw, the way they book 50/50, and the idea of "McMahons above all" have created an environment where they have no stars. No stars, no reason for a casual viewer to tune in.
The Silver
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Sony buried Raw?
Officerrob
Banned
Yep, EVERYTHING is in need of an overhaul. The show is too long, the writing sucks, the announcing (on Raw) sucks, NOTHING feels important, same fucking McMahon shit over and over. etc.
I didn't watch one second of Raw for the second week in a row, if they can't keep someone like me watching (someone who's been watching for about 30 years), they are fucked.
UberTag
Member
Yep, the booking philosophy where absolutely nothing that happens has any consequence has cultivated this problem and it will only continue to persist no matter who is champ.
Match outcomes don't matter. Stipulations will be outright ignored. Whether the fans react or get behind someone or buy their merchandise... makes no difference. Whether a wrestler gets themselves over even with the worst gimmick and booking imaginable... irrelevant. Nothing matters from a company that demands 6-9 hours a week of their audience's time.
That's a pretty substantial investment for a wash, rinse, repeat product that's creatively bankrupt. And the WWE's solution to this will be to double down with a longer Smackdown and more network specials where wrestlers trade wins back and forth in perpetuity with their only purpose being to make Vince's favorites look strong so they can go on talk shows and actually be themselves (instead of rigidly scripted so they all sound the same).
Hidden One
Member
No, Steph and HHH will inherit the company most likely.
JPeeples83
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Or anyone outside of WWE. WWE is completely up its own ass - and without NXT going on, there wouldn't be much reason to think that the future could be bright for the company.
Chie Satonaka
Member
I mean, I was watching E3. I had legitimately forgotten all about Raw until I got home.
And after I watched it, I sure didn't feel bad for having missed it when it was on.
UberTag
Member
Heh... we were all wrong on that one. I suppose we could wind up wrong again.
Vince does like changing his mind after all.
Host Samurai
Member
Haven't been watching it for a few weeks since AJ lost. I am just so tired of a company being built around 1 or 2 guys like its the 80's. Hard to be invested in the product when WWE just hates their fan base. I would like to see it be a bit more unpredictable. It's always "lol Roman wins, lol Cena wins" it's just boring to me. It's such an old way of thinking. WWE can't build a company around 1 or 2 guys anymore. It doesn't work in 2016
Kratos = Ratings
Kratos is stronger than Roman.
UberTag
Member
To be fair, Vince hasn't fed any gods to Roman yet.
The closest he'll come to doing so will be if he's able to feed Brock and Cena to him.
Roman's only had small-fry jobbers to make him look strong thus far.
That's like those undead legionnaires manning the ship in the very first level of God of War 1.
Kratos would have never looked as strong as he does if he only beat those guys up for the entire original trilogy.
You could make the same argument about Hogan. He needed to slay an Andre or two to build up his legacy.
TemplaerDude
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Well, at least the thread title is accurate again.
Honestly, it's hard to really care about Raw since it all just seems like spinning wheels till the draft. They can take a near-literal giant eraser to every feud and rivalry with the brand split so it's really hard to justify parking oneself on the couch for three hours.
Honestly, it's hard to really care about Raw since it all just seems like spinning wheels till the draft. They can take a near-literal giant eraser to every feud and rivalry with the brand split so it's really hard to justify parking oneself on the couch for three hours.
Dark Ninja
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To finally kill the wrestling business
UberTag
Member
Don't fret. After the draft and the brand split they'll find a new reason to spin their wheels and not bother doing anything for an extended period of time. They always find a reason.
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