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WWE Raw drops to lowest TV rating in 18 years

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twinturbo2

butthurt Heat fan
Vince is Giovanni.

Bayley is Misty, there's no other way to imagine it.

Brock as the gym leader, people challenge him to a Pokemon battle and he suplexes the challenger to death while Paul Heyman is yelling at the top of his lungs about how his client, Pikachu, will beat the Undertaker's Charizard at Wrestlemania to beat the streak.
 

Tom Nook

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Big bump from last week.

This week’s episode of WWE Monday Night Raw did an average viewing audience of 3,170,667 viewers on the USA Network. That’s up an average of +512,667 viewers from last week’s episode that aired on July the Fourth. Below is how the show did each hour:

Hour one - 3,042,000 viewers
Hour two - 3,239,000 viewers
Hour three - 3,231,000 viewers
Average - 3,170,667 viewers

The show had plenty of competition as the 2016 MLB Home Run Derby aired on ESPN and garnered 5,524,000 viewers.

Source
 

Mahonay

Banned
RAW on average has been less shitty lately, so looks like ratings creeped back up a little. I'm really curios to see what will happen after the draft.
 

RBH

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SD this week: 3.170 million viewers

RAW this week: 3.13 million viewers


Smackdown beat RAW in the ratings for the first time since 2003
https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCir...ckdown_beat_raw_in_the_ratings_for_the_first/


Tuesday’s live “WWE SmackDown” debut scored the series’ best TV rating since December 2010 in the key 18-49 demographic.

It also topped Monday’s “Raw” in all major demos — a rare feat for the little-brother program.

“SmackDown Live” bested the previous evening’s “Raw” by 1 percent in total viewers, and by 5 percent among those 18-49. The two-hour “SmackDown” (8-10 p.m. ET) beat out the three-hour “Raw” (8-11) among 18-34-year-olds by 15 percent.

The “SmackDown Live” premiere — home to the WWE Draft — landed 3.170 million total viewers, with 1.499 million coming from the advertiser-sought 18-49 group. In total viewers, that’s up 53 percent from Thursday’s pre-taped “SmackDown.” In the main demo, it was a huge 112 percent jump. Among those 18-34, last night’s episode soared 164 percent.
http://www.thewrap.com/wwe-draft-smackdown-live-raw-tv-ratings/
 

Hasney

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There was all the rumours of former stars coming back, I still think if that's the case they must be going mostly to Smackdown.
 

Nerdkiller

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I'm honestly stunned that that show is where they decided to put the Women's Championship on Sasha Banks. I convinced myself that it was going to happen at Summerslam at the earliest. Was there a change in plans?

Probably just thought it was a good 'holy shit' moment and gives it that 'anything can happen' vibe. To be fair it kind of was, I don't think very many people expected Sasha to walk out with the title on Monday.
 

David___

Banned
I'm honestly stunned that that show is where they decided to put the Women's Championship on Sasha Banks. I convinced myself that it was going to happen at Summerslam at the earliest. Was there a change in plans?
Probably to tell people that if they announce a championship match on one of the shows that it's worth watching instead of writing it off since it could change hands going forward. Whether or not this is the case is up in the air but that's the message I got from it.
 

twinturbo2

butthurt Heat fan
Probably just thought it was a good 'holy shit' moment and gives it that 'anything can happen' vibe. To be fair it kind of was, I don't think very many people expected Sasha to walk out with the title on Monday.

They certainly accomplished that, and the crowd loved it... but what does that leave for Summerslam? Didn't WCW get into trouble by adopting an "anything can happen" vibe and had people conditioned to not wait for the PPVs?
 

Son Of D

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Probably to tell people that if they announce a championship match on one of the shows that it's worth watching instead of writing it off since it could change hands going forward. Whether or not this is the case is up in the air but that's the message I got from it.

Pretty much. After the Ambrose/Rollins non-finish last week it did good to have a title change this week. Especially one that would be well received liked Sasha's win was.

They certainly accomplished that, and the crowd loved it... but what does that leave for Summerslam? Didn't WCW get into trouble by adopting an "anything can happen" vibe and had people conditioned to not wait for the PPVs?

I imagine a rematch at Summerslam between Sasha and Charlotte to get the obligatory rematch out of the way (speaking of that, did Ryder ever get his rematch with The Miz for the IC title?) and then moving on to a new rivalry for Clash of Champions. Whether this is Nia Jax, calling up Bayley for good or someone else I have no idea.
 

Acorn

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They certainly accomplished that, and the crowd loved it... but what does that leave for Summerslam? Didn't WCW get into trouble by adopting an "anything can happen" vibe and had people conditioned to not wait for the PPVs?
WWE did it through the entirety of the attitude era. Didn't always happen but it was just often enough to hit a sweetspot of believing it could happen. WCW adopted anything can happen ummm too literally, Arquette etc.
 
They certainly accomplished that, and the crowd loved it... but what does that leave for Summerslam? Didn't WCW get into trouble by adopting an "anything can happen" vibe and had people conditioned to not wait for the PPVs?

They'll build it up to a big rematch I'm sure.
 

s_mirage

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They certainly accomplished that, and the crowd loved it... but what does that leave for Summerslam? Didn't WCW get into trouble by adopting an "anything can happen" vibe and had people conditioned to not wait for the PPVs?

It's a danger, but WCW took it to ridiculous extremes. Having the real possibility of belts changing hands on a regular show can make the shows more compelling, but having the belts change hands every other week just burns viewers out and makes the belts worthless.
 

sora87

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Raw seemed really well put together and had a great pace, SD felt very disjointed. Raw still has the cruiserweights to come too.
 

RBH

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On Thursday, WWE released their earnings report for the second quarter of 2016. Some highlights of the report include the following:

-Revenue increased 32% to a record $199 million, which is the highest quarterly revenue in company history.

-WWE Network acheived a record 1.52 million paid subscribers on average, up 25% from Q2 2015.


WWE Chairman Vince McMahon commented on the Q2 2016 earnings report with the following:

“I continue to be pleased with the execution of our strategy to optimize the long-term value of our content. Progress on this objective is evidenced by the continued year-over-year growth of WWE Network, the transition of SmackDown to a live format every week and the completion of our first exclusive content agreement in China.”
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Anth0ny

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-WWE Network acheived a record 1.52 million paid subscribers on average, up 25% from Q2 2015.

"paid subscribers on average" sounds like carny talk.

how many paid subscribers do they have right now?
 

Sephzilla

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So basically that graph is an example to point out that WWE's ratings decline don't correlate with the declines of USA network and TV in general
 
So basically that graph is an example to point out that WWE's ratings decline don't correlate with the declines of USA network and TV in general

Right, though the Network money is helping overall profit margins. I haven't watched a Raw or Smackdown in years, but I've been subscribing to the Network since Mania and don't regret it. The PPVs have been mostly solid, NXT is consistently good to great, and the Cruiserweight Classic has me excited though I have yet to get a chance to watch it.
 

Sephzilla

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Right, though the Network money is helping overall profit margins. I haven't watched a Raw or Smackdown in years, but I've been subscribing to the Network since Mania and don't regret it. The PPVs have been mostly solid, NXT is consistently good to great, and the Cruiserweight Classic has me excited though I have yet to get a chance to watch it.

Ironically Mania almost made me cancel due to how bad that show was
 
It's a danger, but WCW took it to ridiculous extremes. Having the real possibility of belts changing hands on a regular show can make the shows more compelling, but having the belts change hands every other week just burns viewers out and makes the belts worthless.
Exactly. WCW had 8 different WCW champions between April 16th to May 29th in 2000. This was also when David Arquette was champion. At that point why would you care about this belt if they're treating it like it's nothing?
 

Penguin

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Interesting
Raw dropped all 3 hours, usually trend is hour 2 goes up then hour 3 drops
8pm - 3.463M
9pm - 3.399 M
10pm - 3.081M
 

Lothar

Banned
Interesting
Raw dropped all 3 hours, usually trend is hour 2 goes up then hour 3 drops
8pm - 3.463M
9pm - 3.399 M
10pm - 3.081M

The first hour was easily the best. I would say the only good part. I was liking Raw in the first hour, then I got bored and couldn't take it anymore and fast forwarded through the rest.
 

Toki767

Member
The women are the real draw.

Before last night, they were consistently put on at the start of the second or start of the third hour.
 

Aiii

So not worth it
Interesting
Raw dropped all 3 hours, usually trend is hour 2 goes up then hour 3 drops
8pm - 3.463M
9pm - 3.399 M
10pm - 3.081M

Not really that interesting, it is pretty normal for a great Raw to start with a bigger viewership that tunes out immediately after the first segment when they find out not every show is gonna have title matches and big contendership matches. Pretty much par for the course.
 

Penguin

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Not really that interesting, it is pretty normal for a great Raw to start with a bigger viewership that tunes out immediately after the first segment when they find out not every show is gonna have title matches and big contendership matches. Pretty much par for the course.

Well the pattern is usually a build-up from hour one to hour two and a fall-off from hour two to hour 3

When it bucks the pattern, I think it's interesting
 

RBH

Member
Raw 8/1
8 p.m. 3.46 million
9 p.m. 3.40 million
10 p.m. 3.08 million

Average: 3.30 million


Smackdown 8/2

Average: 2.68 million
 
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