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WWE Raw drops to lowest TV rating in 18 years
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Bruce Springsteen
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right, after the contract is up the rating will be ugly
hydragonwarrior
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How about all WWE wrestlers need at least 3 special finishers/moves?
They've already gone from 4-5 million viewers in 2012 to barely over 2 million now. They've been plunging since the 3rd hour was added.
GraveRobberX
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I was shocked to see a 30 Fucking minute match at the start of Raw
No bullshit promo just a straight match
Then the stupidness pulled up and that start went out the window
Why is CWC intermixed?, just give them the first hour
Start Raw hour 2 and 3
Fucking stupid to figure out when their matches will come
No bullshit promo just a straight match
Then the stupidness pulled up and that start went out the window
Why is CWC intermixed?, just give them the first hour
Start Raw hour 2 and 3
Fucking stupid to figure out when their matches will come
Sir_Crocodile
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All that has to happen is USA getting a few hits for raw to suddenly look very exposed.
Really it's a question of who dives into the gutter fastest, raw or usa as a whole lol
The money vince gets from them will be ugly.
Vince was way too greedy eyeing that three hour money. Should have remembered what happened to nitro.
sketchsanchez
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WWE has just fucked everything up and I don't know how they can fix it. No one buys into the drama, or kayfabe, anymore or even bothers to try and I'm including the audience in this.
I get its dead but being able to make people suspend their disbelief WHILE THE ACTUAL SHOW IS ON, is essential and shouldn't be that fucking hard.
Instead you get a crowd chanting "you deserve this" at the next big heel champion. It's as if fans don't even want to bother trying to buy into any storylines/characters and that's absoulutly WWEs fault.
I get its dead but being able to make people suspend their disbelief WHILE THE ACTUAL SHOW IS ON, is essential and shouldn't be that fucking hard.
Instead you get a crowd chanting "you deserve this" at the next big heel champion. It's as if fans don't even want to bother trying to buy into any storylines/characters and that's absoulutly WWEs fault.
They'd need to drop about another, what, two thirds of that number before they're getting the same ratings as other USA shows right? It's possible but I'm not sure if it'll crater that much
Sir_Crocodile
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We know the TNA core is about 320K
Time to find out what the WWF core is! I'm gonna say 1.2M.
Nerdkiller
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That third hour was not Vince's decision.
Sir_Crocodile
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He could have fought it. He could have walked USA through Nitro's numbers and guaranteed them the same thing would happen to Raw.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I mean, the debate drew 83.7 million viewers. That it only dropped by 500,000 when it started is like a fucking miracle.
Bruce Springsteen
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you can't have kayfabe and present the wrestlers out of character at the same damn time, fucking pick one and move on
You see a heel cut some bad guy promo to crickets and then a minute later that same heel is goofing off, completely out of character in some trash WWE Network show commercial. Sorry, but the audience just won't take any of it seriously
wrassling is about suspension of disbelief, just like watching any movie, the WWE has done their best to remind you it's fake and "real" every other segment
sketchsanchez
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Yes, thank you! Stuff like that should not be happening during the actual show. On the network? On twitter? Yeah, go nuts. I'm fine with that but during the show? Fuck that.
I think they feel they'd be insulting our intelligence if they tried to portray it as "real" but they don't get that most of us WANT to be worked for those 2-3 hours
Smokey_Run
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It's not about what USA thinks, it's about what advertisers think about the rating. If they don't care, they're just gonna spend their ad dollars elsewhere. It could also mean fewer partnerships too.
They should probably try to renegotiate a new contract for a two hour Raw sooner rather than later if it continues to drop.
They should probably try to renegotiate a new contract for a two hour Raw sooner rather than later if it continues to drop.
Really? Suits got 1.85 million this last half-season. And that is a show advertisers actually do want to be associated with, as oppsed to WWE programming.
I would say whatever sway WWE has in that regard is rapidly diminishing.
However, the 2.8 it started with is still a terrible number to begin with, let's not pass over that part.
Roland_Gunner
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Yeah, USA isn't going to drop RAW / Smackdown entirely. They may offer substantially less for the rights after this contract is up though. Its not clear that WWE has another way to make that revenue up.
I imagine for the majority of wrestling fans, there is no debate to be had when it comes to their vote.
ElectricBlanketFire
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Piston Hyundai
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nah
I mean it's totally the better show but that's not why it won out over Raw
Every time I watch 205 Live, it makes me wish that Corey Graves and JBL would switch brands.
Uno Venova
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Announcing big returns in advance is the only way WWE gets boosts in ratings these days.
Ninja Scooter
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Actually bringing back the WCW and Nitro brands instead of Smackdown when thy did the split, and really pushing them as kayfabe separate companies run by Steph and Shane and pursuing that rivarly angle might have worked a lot better than what they have no. At the very least it would have gotten them tons more publicity.
ElectricBlanketFire
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...then why?
Uno Venova
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John Cena's return.
Bruce Springsteen
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PartTimeWarrior
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Good for Smackdown. The talent on that brand have been working their asses off since the brand split
ElectricBlanketFire
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Oh yeah. Whoops.
It also didn't help that Raw's episode this week was complete garbage.
ElectricBlanketFire
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That it was my friend.
wild wild rice
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In terms of quality? Both.
I will say yes... and no
Because Cena's return was the very start of SD, and folks clearly stuck around... now it's a bit unfair since we don't get hourly breakdowns so it could be like a ton tuned in for him and left during the 2 hours, but not like they had to wait for the entire show to see him
That's never going to happen, Vince couldn't convince the investors and USA to drop the extra hour that generates extra revenue from ad concepts.
Also, ratings are going down for anything on TV, the wwe is still doing fine with it
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